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Danyull
Jan 16, 2011

Guys, I have found the best rap demo you will ever hear. http://nerdywhitekid.bandcamp.com/album/n-w-k-the-mixtape

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Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!
Has anybody been listening to Blue Dream & Lean? It's nice to have a break from Luger beats but all the same, it's like Rubba Band Business 1 & 2. You have stand out tracks but there are some lulls.

Nothing will beat "Pussy Between Yo Legs" though.

I leave you with this taste of the tape:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TzkHicCWYg

Brace
May 29, 2010

by Ozmaugh
It's weird that this is the same Juicy J as old Three 6 Mafia Juicy J.

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

Brace posted:

It's weird that this is the same Juicy J as old Three 6 Mafia Juicy J.

He's adapted quite well, although he's on beats from people he's clearly inspired so....

Roymega
Oct 10, 2004

-crickets-

Derv1sh posted:

I think it's fair to say Phrenology and Game Theory were low points, but Rising Down, How I Got Over and the latest disc are very, very good albums. They don't have the same feel as the early stuff with Malik, but they still stand up to other discs released at the same time. IMO, How I got over is the very definition of a sleeper. The more I listen to it, especially PORN's flow on Walk Alone, the better it gets.

New album is no different. Even if the intro song is a waste of time.

I actually liked the intro..

@Agreed: as far as "instrumentation" being a gimmick, what do you mean?

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

There are people who (usually don't like rap, but) think that they've got something really special because they play instruments, unlike other rappers who just steal pieces of real music. It's a lovely viewpoint and the wikipedia sourced statement introducing them as "famed for still including live instruments" or something to that effect is 15 years old, so I'd hope that it's not seen as invalidating other rappers, just what they're on. Legitimate and cool, not better than "just because" though.

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill
Bieber rappin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3023FWucI90

Alastor_the_Stylish
Jul 25, 2006

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.

Wow, Asher Roth is great at writing raps!

Roymega
Oct 10, 2004

-crickets-

Agreed posted:

There are people who (usually don't like rap, but) think that they've got something really special because they play instruments, unlike other rappers who just steal pieces of real music. It's a lovely viewpoint and the wikipedia sourced statement introducing them as "famed for still including live instruments" or something to that effect is 15 years old, so I'd hope that it's not seen as invalidating other rappers, just what they're on. Legitimate and cool, not better than "just because" though.

Ahh ok, yeah I feel ya.. Invalidating a rapper for using live instruments? Nahhh, I always give mad props for artists that actually play instruments at their shows.. That's what music is.. I mean don't get me wrong, I love hip-hop, but it is (nowadays anyway) a genre overrun with samples and people that don't even bother learning anything other than how to chop other people's music to their liking

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Producers have been shying away from samples since hiphop started. I'd say this is the lowest point for samples, outside of maybe break beats or if you are someone like Kanye with a huge budget. Note: Mixtapes don't count as they aren't commercial and you can't sell them without getting into a poo poo load of trouble.

Jock Mocken
Apr 7, 2005

on point like a unicorn, strapped like tha unabomb
everyday a work day but dont wear a uniform
Gucci Mane a dapper don, capper like a Capricorn

temple posted:

Producers have been shying away from samples since hiphop started. I'd say this is the lowest point for samples, outside of maybe break beats or if you are someone like Kanye with a huge budget. Note: Mixtapes don't count as they aren't commercial and you can't sell them without getting into a poo poo load of trouble.

No there's still a lot of sampling going on.

Some producers will record a band and then chop it up instead of digging though, I know off the top of my head that Pimp C and Ant have done this for some stuff

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


I also think that a lot of producers have also started going outside the traditional sources for sampling in a lot of new music. It's not all old jazz/soul/funk anymore.

Jock Mocken
Apr 7, 2005

on point like a unicorn, strapped like tha unabomb
everyday a work day but dont wear a uniform
Gucci Mane a dapper don, capper like a Capricorn

alansmithee posted:

I also think that a lot of producers have also started going outside the traditional sources for sampling in a lot of new music. It's not all old jazz/soul/funk anymore.

This is true too. The Block Beattaz are a great example of producers who pull samples from all over the place. I'd actually say breakbeats are in worse shape than sampling as a whole since programmed drum patterns can go so far beyond what used to be possible

Sypher
Feb 4, 2003
I don't think this has been posted yet. Oldish Song, but new vid.

Detroit Hip-Hop is the best Hip-Hop, imo.

One Be Lo - The ANT i Matter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeCjuebYYCY

aniero
Oct 11, 2009

Sypher posted:

Detroit Hip-Hop is the best Hip-Hop, imo.

One Be Lo - The ANT i Matter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeCjuebYYCY

Good song! I'll see your Detroit artist with a pair of Detroit artists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp7RsUd-314
NyceGuyz - Left of St Elsewhere

They have this other great song called Red Your On that isn't on YouTube
edit: Bandcamp! http://nyceguyz.bandcamp.com/track/red-your-on

chomper
Aug 16, 2007

Los Bastardos
For Big K.R.I.T. fans or anyone who likes a nice little freestyle...

KRIT did a freestyle over 5 different beats on Sway's Shade45 morning show... stream or download here:

http://hulkshare.com/35x7pdj3iz1z

Roymega
Oct 10, 2004

-crickets-

temple posted:

Producers have been shying away from samples since hiphop started. I'd say this is the lowest point for samples, outside of maybe break beats or if you are someone like Kanye with a huge budget. Note: Mixtapes don't count as they aren't commercial and you can't sell them without getting into a poo poo load of trouble.

Ok, I admit I over-generalized to try and make a point. Basically what I wanted to say was a lot of artists don't take the time to learn how to play an instrument anymore because it's easier to use a VST or sample to produce the same result.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Roymega posted:

Ok, I admit I over-generalized to try and make a point. Basically what I wanted to say was a lot of artists don't take the time to learn how to play an instrument anymore because it's easier to use a VST or sample to produce the same result.

Yeah man all those lazy porch monkeys, just too busy with their 40s and marijuana cigarettes to learn how to play music like a REAL MUSICIAN. "Like" this if you believe in REAL music like Def Leppard and no autotuned garbage and jungle music 3 days ago

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008


Roymega posted:

Ok, I admit I over-generalized to try and make a point. Basically what I wanted to say was a lot of artists don't take the time to learn how to play an instrument anymore because it's easier to use a VST or sample to produce the same result.

Guitarrrs havee SOULLL mannnnn

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daVSW6JcnJA

AraabMuzik is so sick. Pretty sure I need to revisit all the Dipset I haven't listened to over the years.

Roymega
Oct 10, 2004

-crickets-

alansmithee posted:

Yeah man all those lazy porch monkeys, just too busy with their 40s and marijuana cigarettes to learn how to play music like a REAL MUSICIAN. "Like" this if you believe in REAL music like Def Leppard and no autotuned garbage and jungle music 3 days ago

Why take my words out of context like that? I didn't imply that at all..

100% Dundee
Oct 11, 2004

polpotpotpotpotpot posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daVSW6JcnJA

AraabMuzik is so sick. Pretty sure I need to revisit all the Dipset I haven't listened to over the years.

The look on ASAP Rockys' face at 1:26ish pretty much sums that second beat up, sick nasty.

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

I like a few ASAP Rocky tracks but on the whole, credit where it's due the production is fantastic but it stands in contrast to pretty mediocre lyricism, and his flow seems kind of dated for someone being held up as next poo poo. His A/B/C/D/G lines in that one song were killer, but that seems like what he does, he's got a lot of just eehhh it's alright and then something kills but after that, back to just alright.

Roymega posted:

Why take my words out of context like that? I didn't imply that at all..

The history of "rappers just use _______, they should play real instruments" is kinda racist. There's a term for it that gets used, "rockist," because it diminishes the effort and legitimacy of hip-hop and sampling (which has a really rich history, you should check out the kind of effort that used to go into combing through record shops for old funk and soul records especially, finding a great, rare record could mean having a seriously hot beat) and promotes REAL musicians instead. But sampling is a form of musical expression. You don't just end up with the same thing that you had before, it's a new synthesis of the sample, everything around it, and the rapper's vocals.

Sampling is an art form too, the tools have gotten more sophisticated but that's true of every other musical field too except classical, where it's sort of genre-bound to stay the same minus some experimental folks (e.g. the interesting experiments done with heavily curved bows under the inference that they were likely considered when a piece was composed).

Since there is a history of discrimination wrapped up in the language used to diminish sampling, expect reactions like (maybe not that extreme, it's alansmithee, but with the same basic premise) when you say things like that. You're not a shithead just because you said something uncool, but it's an opportunity to learn why that's not so accurate :)

Agreed fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Dec 6, 2011

Roymega
Oct 10, 2004

-crickets-

Agreed posted:

The history of "rappers just use _______, they should play real instruments" is kinda racist. There's a term for it that gets used, "rockist," because it diminishes the effort and legitimacy of hip-hop and sampling (which has a really rich history, you should check out the kind of effort that used to go into combing through record shops for old funk and soul records especially, finding a great, rare record could mean having a seriously hot beat) and promotes REAL musicians instead. But sampling is a form of musical expression. You don't just end up with the same thing that you had before, it's a new synthesis of the sample, everything around it, and the rapper's vocals.

Sampling is an art form too, the tools have gotten more sophisticated but that's true of every other musical field too except classical, where it's sort of genre-bound to stay the same minus some experimental folks (e.g. the interesting experiments done with heavily curved bows under the inference that they were likely considered when a piece was composed).

Since there is a history of discrimination wrapped up in the language used to diminish sampling, expect reactions like (maybe not that extreme, it's alansmithee, but with the same basic premise) when you say things like that. You're not a shithead just because you said something uncool, but it's an opportunity to learn why that's not so accurate :)

Right, I understand that.. I wasn't trying to say that sampling isn't a legit way of making music, I produce myself, so I understand a lot of what goes into producing good music.. I just don't appreciate when words are put in my mouth so-to-speak. Guess I just gotta get to know the posters a little better

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

Roymega posted:

Right, I understand that.. I wasn't trying to say that sampling isn't a legit way of making music, I produce myself, so I understand a lot of what goes into producing good music.. I just don't appreciate when words are put in my mouth so-to-speak. Guess I just gotta get to know the posters a little better

alansmithee is right about a lot of stuff and can be kind of a dick, I am a herb, everybody else is just normal

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah

polpotpotpotpotpot posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daVSW6JcnJA

AraabMuzik is so sick. Pretty sure I need to revisit all the Dipset I haven't listened to over the years.

I'm pretty sure Araab and Vado are both newer additions but between them and Cam they've put out about 8 mixtapes in the last couple years. But yeah dude's sick; his beats have no soul, but technically he's amazing.

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch
I don't even care that its not the best effort from either dude because http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2011/12/07/slick-rick-%96-need-some-bad-prod-dj-premier

snyprmag
Oct 9, 2005

your link wasn't working, but its here too: http://www.djpremierblog.com/2011/12/07/exclusive-slick-rick-need-some-bad-prod-by-dj-premier-cdq/

Slick Rick has one of the coolest voices ever and its a pretty cool beat.

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

snyprmag posted:

your link wasn't working, but its here too: http://www.djpremierblog.com/2011/12/07/exclusive-slick-rick-need-some-bad-prod-by-dj-premier-cdq/

Slick Rick has one of the coolest voices ever and its a pretty cool beat.

Thanks mate apparently i can't link things without screwing it up and now im going to commit suicide

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Figure this is the best place to ask:

I picked up a used copy of 808s and Heartbreak in the summer, and a few days ago it finally registered that "poo poo" in the cut with Lil Wayne is censored. I then went through the album and I couldn't fine a single other instance of a swear word. I was pissed that I accidentally bought an edited version of the album, but after looking online, I'm a little confused.

Is there only a clean version of 808s and Heartbreak?



Edit: I actually think its cool if the album was clean originally, I just don't want to realize I have an edited version and half the lyrics are wrong.

phractured
Feb 21, 2008

Voodoofly posted:

Figure this is the best place to ask:

I picked up a used copy of 808s and Heartbreak in the summer, and a few days ago it finally registered that "poo poo" in the cut with Lil Wayne is censored. I then went through the album and I couldn't fine a single other instance of a swear word. I was pissed that I accidentally bought an edited version of the album, but after looking online, I'm a little confused.

Is there only a clean version of 808s and Heartbreak?



Edit: I actually think its cool if the album was clean originally, I just don't want to realize I have an edited version and half the lyrics are wrong.

That's what happened to me for Slum Village's Detroit Deli. Then I found the dirty version. Fackin Itunes.

Jock Mocken
Apr 7, 2005

on point like a unicorn, strapped like tha unabomb
everyday a work day but dont wear a uniform
Gucci Mane a dapper don, capper like a Capricorn
:cmon: save ya inquiries for poo poo like uncensored versions of poo poo like protect ya neck or gimme tha loot (don't give a gently caress if she's pregnant)

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Jock Mocken posted:

:cmon: save ya inquiries for poo poo like uncensored versions of poo poo like protect ya neck or gimme tha loot (don't give a gently caress if she's pregnant)

But back when I bought those in the 90s, it was obvious if they were uncensored or not, and I knew drat well where to buy and where not to buy (:argh: WalMart and your too good to be true prices for the Above the Rim Soundtrack).

With 808s, I honestly can't tell if he purposefully censored one word to release the album as clean.

snyprmag
Oct 9, 2005

Jock Mocken posted:

:cmon: save ya inquiries for poo poo like uncensored versions of poo poo like protect ya neck or gimme tha loot (don't give a gently caress if she's pregnant)

Didn't know there was a uncensored Protect ya neck, its kinda weird without the scratches.

Anyone know if there's an uncensored version of the ATL RMX comp. really just want this track though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKWjRw41Ods

juicy_J
Jun 25, 2004
I.O.U. one gmail invite
http://youtu.be/Q3PKa8z3M1g

I don't like the dirty version of protect ya neck as much, those cuts on ODB's verse are classic.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
That slick rick song is noice. He's in my town but I can't go :(

John Brown
Jul 10, 2009

I don't know if someone already posted about this and I really don't give a poo poo but...went to see Hov & Kanye last night. As I go through the videos and watch the crowd's reaction as Jay raps Pimp C's verse in "Big Pimpin" and ends it at "What chall know about them Texas boyz!" I realized it was definitely worth the loving price.

I wish I was in Houston for that poo poo!

...on another note I must have been under a drat rock to not notice Styles put out an album so I'll definitely be checking that out soon. Anyone know if Kiss has another album in the works?

John Brown fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Dec 8, 2011

Sypher
Feb 4, 2003
Getting super stoked for Season 2.

http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2011/12/05/jon-connor-gonna-make-it-f-freeway-prod-optiks/

GZA Genius
Jan 29, 2009
Is anyone else getting super excited for Common's new album? It sounds like he is going back to his "Like Water for Chocolate" days. I can't wait for this album.

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alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


GZA Genius posted:

Is anyone else getting super excited for Common's new album?
Coffee shops, NPR, and easy listening stations all across the US.

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