Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Business of Ferrets posted:

So, I log on and see that there are like five new messages in this thread, and I'm thinking it might be something exciting.

Government sanctioned social media and tips for Outlook.

Sigh. :rolleyes:

Last year I spent Thanksgiving in Queen Elizabeth National Park in Uganda, and chased after chimpanzees in gorge surrounded by hippos, snakes and other critters. That night we slept outside in a bed with only a mosquito net looking at the stars.

This year I'm going to Iguaçu Falls and can check off Argentina as a country visited.

FS life can be pretty cool.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

TCD posted:

Yes, but I can't remember how. You're on the right track though. I mean, the cable folder is just a regular folder with the cable fields added.

*I think.

Yeah but the problem is those cable fields are nowhere to be found in the "add custom field" menu, at least as far as I can see.

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope
Outlook has those properties buried somewhere. I found them once. I can't guarantee you use them to make columns, but I bet you can. I'd need it front of me to find it though and I won't be back in the office till Monday.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
I'm in no rush, but even Monday would be faster than our incredibly backlogged IMS getting me an answer on it.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Happy thanksgiving everyone :unsmith: be sure to stuff yourself with whichever host country food is offered :D

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Heya BoF, is the AIP ( or "do three rounds in a dangerous place, your choice for next post" ) program still in effect? I heard Afg was removed from the program last year, but you also got first pick so I was curious.

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

Skandiaavity posted:

Heya BoF, is the AIP ( or "do three rounds in a dangerous place, your choice for next post" ) program still in effect? I heard Afg was removed from the program last year, but you also got first pick so I was curious.

Every year as the bidding cycle begins the incentives (including "linked" assignments) are explained. They vary from year to year and in the current budget situation it is impossible to predict with any surety whether they will stay the same. That said, linked assignments are one of the most cost-neutral incentives State has, so who knows.

Also, not all specialists are eligible to link. IT types have been able to in the past I believe, but DS agents have not and are not eligible. Generalists have been eligible whenever the program has been in effect.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

Business of Ferrets posted:

Every year as the bidding cycle begins the incentives (including "linked" assignments) are explained. They vary from year to year and in the current budget situation it is impossible to predict with any surety whether they will stay the same. That said, linked assignments are one of the most cost-neutral incentives State has, so who knows.

Also, not all specialists are eligible to link. IT types have been able to in the past I believe, but DS agents have not and are not eligible. Generalists have been eligible whenever the program has been in effect.

Also apparently (for generalists at least) there are only limited numbers of linked assignments. I think I remember seeing the number at around 150 but I'm not sure.

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope

Diplomaticus posted:

Oh hey now that I think about it I might get a faster response asking one of you IMS types.

Is there a way to make Outlook show the various cable-related columns (MRN, precedence, etc.) in other folders, e.g. an archive folder? Like, if I clean out my cables folder and move them all to an archive folder, it only shows the normal mail columns (from/received/subject/size etc.). I looked around in the "add column" menu but didn't see anything.

Right click on the columns you have and select "Customize Current View." The select "Fields." You'll see a screen with a drop down box labeled "Select Available Fields From" from there select "User Defined Fields in Folder" and you'll see some SMART fields you can use. Just add the ones you want.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Business of Ferrets posted:

Every year as the bidding cycle begins the incentives (including "linked" assignments) are explained. They vary from year to year and in the current budget situation it is impossible to predict with any surety whether they will stay the same. That said, linked assignments are one of the most cost-neutral incentives State has, so who knows.

Also, not all specialists are eligible to link. IT types have been able to in the past I believe, but DS agents have not and are not eligible. Generalists have been eligible whenever the program has been in effect.

Ah, I see. "It Depends." indeed.

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

Diplomaticus posted:

Also apparently (for generalists at least) there are only limited numbers of linked assignments. I think I remember seeing the number at around 150 but I'm not sure.

As far as I know, the cap has never been reached. Some people don't link for good reason, such as an 01 hoping to stretch into a senior position. Others are either too lazy or just don't understand the system enough to make a link and wind up missing out on just about the best deal you can get for going to AIP.

Zoots
Apr 19, 2007

No passport for you.

Business of Ferrets posted:

As far as I know, the cap has never been reached. Some people don't link for good reason, such as an 01 hoping to stretch into a senior position. Others are either too lazy or just don't understand the system enough to make a link and wind up missing out on just about the best deal you can get for going to AIP.

As I understand it, linking an assignment entails bidding on your next assignment right away. It is a nice perk, but it still involves a significant amount of legwork to line it all up. You still need to do your research, find an open posting that matches your ETD from AIP, get the responsible bureau to offer the job, etc. etc. Hence the folks who just don't bother doing it.

Of course, I could be completely wrong. Feel free to correct me here.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

AKA Pseudonym posted:

Right click on the columns you have and select "Customize Current View." The select "Fields." You'll see a screen with a drop down box labeled "Select Available Fields From" from there select "User Defined Fields in Folder" and you'll see some SMART fields you can use. Just add the ones you want.

My "User Defined Fields" is empty.

But I ghetto'd my way around it, by manually adding in MRN, Precedence, etc. and then dragging things around to the proper size/position. Only lovely thing is that I have to do it manually for each subfolder, and I have about 40.


Business of Ferrets posted:

As far as I know, the cap has never been reached. Some people don't link for good reason, such as an 01 hoping to stretch into a senior position. Others are either too lazy or just don't understand the system enough to make a link and wind up missing out on just about the best deal you can get for going to AIP.

Didn't know that it never was reached; the number seemed awfully low to me but I guess the stretching issue makes a lot of sense. In other news, my boss will be going to Baghdad next tour for an 01 position. I'm sad, because he owns as a boss (despite being quirky, though I find them endearing) but the job seems well suited for him and it ought to be the bump he need for a sick principal officer or DCM position after that. (He shouldn't be too far off, one of his former colleagues only slightly senior to him is my new DCM. She also owns.)

Leif. fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Nov 30, 2011

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004
.

maskenfreiheit fucked around with this message at 03:58 on May 24, 2017

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.
The people I know who do that gig seem to like it. They're basically always making sure the physical facilities are secure from being blown up/spied upon. Lots of hands-on work (fixing that anti-ram barrier; making sure CCTV cameras, etc., work correctly and have minimal blind spots, etc.) as well as security assessment and planning.

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope
It's sort of handyman work for security stuff. You'll be expected to be good with tools, electricity, maybe even a little carpentry. Seems like pretty good work if you have the skills.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004
.

maskenfreiheit fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Apr 28, 2019

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
My understanding is that you're still a mechanic/maintenance type -- while there are "where are the blind spots" kind of things, most of the time those details are figured out at higher levels than you, and in conjunction with other offices (RSO, Marine Det, Seabees, etc.)

You might supervise local guard staff fixing security measures at residential houses though, depending on where you are. For instance, if your post requires bars to be on the windows/doors, or razor wire on your walls, or whatever; STS oversees that.

Also a lot of alarm work I think.

Network security stuff is a different job.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004
.

maskenfreiheit fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Apr 28, 2019

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
I believe that's IMS or IMTS. We have a few of them in this thread.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
My wife has reminded me of something -- do we have/know of any goon FSO spouses? She has an account here but posts much more rarely than I do.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

GregNorc posted:

Oh. What would the title be for that? That'd be what I'd be looking for.

Security Engineering Officers (SEOs, who normally supervise STSs) can also fill slots for Regional Computer Security Officers. They do much more of the security aspect, however, there are very few of the RCSO slots, so you'd probably be doing much more SEO work over a career.

Also, SEOs normally require an engineering degree.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Diplomaticus posted:

My wife has reminded me of something -- do we have/know of any goon FSO spouses? She has an account here but posts much more rarely than I do.

If/When I get the offer, yes :P

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Diplomaticus posted:

My wife has reminded me of something -- do we have/know of any goon FSO spouses? She has an account here but posts much more rarely than I do.

Sorry, my wife doesn't post on SA.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

Skandiaavity posted:

If/When I get the offer, yes :P

The IMS offer, or nuptials? :ese:

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope

GregNorc posted:

Oh. What would the title be for that? That'd be what I'd be looking for.

This is a little hard to explain without drowning everybody in acronyms and jargon but there aren't really any full-time network security jobs in the Foreign Service. Usually it's a minor part of an IMS's workload. Some posts have a dedicated full-time Information Security Officer. But those jobs are filled by the same people who fill IMS jobs and they're more about enforcing policies than technical work.

We do have network security people in the Civil Service. But I can't tell you much about that.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

Diplomaticus posted:

The IMS offer, or nuptials? :ese:

The IMS, The IMS! Why would she offer the nuptials?

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004
.

maskenfreiheit fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Apr 28, 2019

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

GregNorc posted:

Civil service... so no cool exotic posts? (Unless we're going to consider Foggy Bottom "exotic")

And I'm guessing you wouldn't get the housing allowances that a FSO would get?

For the most part, Civil Service serve at their assignments domestic with a chance of oversea excursions and live within their salary at their CONUS assignment.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Can someone elaborate on the safety situations regarding housing? I've spoken to my wife about becoming a foreign service officer and she is 100% supportive, but I've been dragging my feet on taking the test because I'm concerned about her situation once we arrive. I'm concerned that if we were placed, for example, in a country where women are in many ways treated like second class citizens that she would either be in danger or be a prisoner in our home.

I know I didn't ask an actual question, but I was hoping someone had an experience like this that they could share.

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

Eonwe posted:

Can someone elaborate on the safety situations regarding housing? I've spoken to my wife about becoming a foreign service officer and she is 100% supportive, but I've been dragging my feet on taking the test because I'm concerned about her situation once we arrive. I'm concerned that if we were placed, for example, in a country where women are in many ways treated like second class citizens that she would either be in danger or be a prisoner in our home.

I know I didn't ask an actual question, but I was hoping someone had an experience like this that they could share.

You're not going to hear many experiences like this because it basically doesn't happen very much. I mean, try not to go to Saudi Arabia? There are women's issues in lots of the world, but not usually anything that would affect expats.

What makes you think this would be a problem for you? Have you ever travelled outside the USA?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Business of Ferrets posted:

You're not going to hear many experiences like this because it basically doesn't happen very much. I mean, try not to go to Saudi Arabia? There are women's issues in lots of the world, but not usually anything that would affect expats.

What makes you think this would be a problem for you? Have you ever travelled outside the USA?

Yeah, they'd put in a compound. There are a bunch of expatriates in Saudi Arabia, and you do get special consideration as one. Just don't go walking around with a beer in your hand.

I've got a question of my own. I submitted my PN's in the middle of November. When should I be expecting word back to see if I got into the oral assesment?

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

Eonwe posted:

Can someone elaborate on the safety situations regarding housing? I've spoken to my wife about becoming a foreign service officer and she is 100% supportive, but I've been dragging my feet on taking the test because I'm concerned about her situation once we arrive. I'm concerned that if we were placed, for example, in a country where women are in many ways treated like second class citizens that she would either be in danger or be a prisoner in our home.

I know I didn't ask an actual question, but I was hoping someone had an experience like this that they could share.

It's pretty rare. In the more repressive countries, let's face it -- you're going to be spending time with other expats and the diplo-community -- you may be on a compound and probably will be driving places with a hired driver. Everywhere else, you're made safe enough that it's not a concern.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009

Shageletic posted:

I've got a question of my own. I submitted my PN's in the middle of November. When should I be expecting word back to see if I got into the oral assesment?

Pretty sure the letter we got that said we passed the written exam said mid-January.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Business of Ferrets posted:

You're not going to hear many experiences like this because it basically doesn't happen very much. I mean, try not to go to Saudi Arabia? There are women's issues in lots of the world, but not usually anything that would affect expats.

What makes you think this would be a problem for you? Have you ever travelled outside the USA?

I have traveled outside of the USA, but I was thinking places like Saudia Arabia or other more strict Islamic countries. I have never traveled there, and I was unsure of how women from outside the country are treated, even if they are part of the US Foreign Service.

Thanks Business of Ferrets and Diplomaticus.

*Edit*

Also, I wasn't necessarily looking for 'bad' experiences. I was looking for input on any kind of experience people had with bringing their family along into a different culture, good or bad.

eonwe fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Dec 5, 2011

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
e: wrong thread

ATI Jesus
Aug 14, 2003
I can walk on water with my ATI graphics card installed!

GregNorc posted:

Has anyone done this? What is it like? Given how long the application process is, I thought it might be interesting to apply for the position. What are the duties like? Would I be solving interesting problems, or just laying LAN cable and working as a rather well paid help desk monkey?

What was your bachelor's in?

If you have a degree in "anything with the word engineering from an ABET certified school, it appears to me that a Security Engineering Officer (SEO) is a much better gig. I got to know our regional SEO and STS and the SeaBee rather well because the Kosovo compound was held together with baling wire and a prayer. The STS and SeaBee spent a lot of trying to fix shredders, changing locks, repairing/replacing alarms/power supplies/cameras/etc. Most of the STS job is repairing broken security equipment. There is also some construction sometimes for forced entry ballistic resistant doors and explosion film on windows, stuff like that.

SEO's sometimes actually get to make decisions in conjuction with the Regional Security Officer regarding security upgradesf. There is also a possibility for Regional Computer Security Officer as TCD mentioned, but State has had issues with training SEO's for the job because it's very expensive training and after they get all that training they became incredibly valuable in the private sector. Retention is such an issue that they opened the a slot or two up to IMS for the job last year, which bureaus typically never do. The RCSO job sounded interesting from what the RCSO from Moscow said to me, but you will be doing a lot of travel, as a big part of the job involves inspections of computer security at other posts. This could put significant stress on your family situation if they are not accustomed to you being on the road for weeks at a time.

With all that in mind, it is possible to change skill codes if you are more qualified for an SEO and you just want in. You can even come in as a computer nerd and jump ship to Generalist if you get REALLY tired of going home on time and getting paid overtime. Seeing as your field of graduate study is computer security and human computer interaction, there's also always the option of Information Management Specialist.




I guess it's also time to update my location. I'm in Sao Paulo Brazil as the IMS.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

ATI Jesus posted:



I guess it's also time to update my location. I'm in Sao Paulo Brazil as the IMS.

Updating. Also you're getting at two of my A-100 colleagues coming to consular there. I don't know the one guy all that well, but the other one is awesome.

Bizob
Dec 18, 2004

Tiger out of nowhere!
Been a while since I chimed in, but I guess a January class got approved and offers went out today. I got an offer in consular, which is nuts since my candidacy would have expired on Monday.

I'm probably going to decline (MY WIFE and infant daughter aren't really into the foreign service) but now I have objective proof that I am better than almost everyone.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

Bizob posted:

Been a while since I chimed in, but I guess a January class got approved and offers went out today. I got an offer in consular, which is nuts since my candidacy would have expired on Monday.

I'm probably going to decline (MY WIFE and infant daughter aren't really into the foreign service) but now I have objective proof that I am better than almost everyone.

Hey, congrats! But it's too bad we won't have yet another goon in the FS.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply