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Abu-Saleh posted:As a college freshman, I am curious about your guys' opinion as to whether the job market would have gotten better by the time after I hypothetically enrolled in and graduated from a law school, which is at minimum 8 years from now. I'm taking pre-med courses right now, but lawyering sounds like an equally respectable, and potentially more lucrative field (it's not as of now, I understand). If you think you are going to do it for the money then you should probably reconsider.
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Abu-Saleh posted:As a college freshman, I am curious about your guys' opinion as to whether the job market would have gotten better by the time after I hypothetically enrolled in and graduated from a law school, which is at minimum 8 years from now. I'm taking pre-med courses right now, but lawyering sounds like an equally respectable, and potentially more lucrative field (it's not as of now, I understand). Get a double major in computer science and economics. Get a job out of college with your good degrees and never look back.
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Even if applications to law school have plateaued, there's still far more lawyers than jobs at the moment, and that's only going to get worse. Go to med school and pray that the republicans stay in power.
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Abu-Saleh posted:As a college freshman, I am curious about your guys' opinion as to whether the job market would have gotten better by the time after I hypothetically enrolled in and graduated from a law school, which is at minimum 8 years from now. I'm taking pre-med courses right now, but lawyering sounds like an equally respectable, and potentially more lucrative field (it's not as of now, I understand).
That said, it's hard to tell what will happen in even four years, let alone longer. I don't think it makes sense to take any specific steps towards law that would come at the cost of other options, but you don't need to worry about any of this until you are ready to apply to law school, which is in at least four years.
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Abu-Saleh posted:As a college freshman, I am curious about your guys' opinion as to whether the job market would have gotten better by the time after I hypothetically enrolled in and graduated from a law school, which is at minimum 8 years from now. I'm taking pre-med courses right now, but lawyering sounds like an equally respectable, and potentially more lucrative field (it's not as of now, I understand). I seriously doubt that your potential to find respect and lucre as a lawyer will exceed your potential to find respect and lucre as a physician, but it's really far out and I don't think anyone could speculate. If you want to keep it an option, take some electives to keep your GPA high. EDIT: Also, it's really not horrific (among the T14) right now. That's not to say it's getting better or that it's actually good; things will probably never be what they used to be. I'm saying I think things can and will get a lot darker. And to be clear, there are a ton of people in the thread who are unemployed, some of whom are very recent grads. Sulecrist fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Dec 3, 2011 |
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Abu-Saleh posted:As a college freshman, I am curious about your guys' opinion as to whether the job market would have gotten better by the time after I hypothetically enrolled in and graduated from a law school, which is at minimum 8 years from now. I'm taking pre-med courses right now, but lawyering sounds like an equally respectable, and potentially more lucrative field (it's not as of now, I understand). Going to law school because you think it sounds respectable and lucrative is a horrible idea.
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I need some anonymous relief/advice. The basic gist of the story is that the partner I pretty much exclusively worked for at a very successful litigation boutique jumped ship for a biglaw partnership. I was a little miffed that he left without even telling me he was thinking about leaving, but whatever. The problem is he also left an absolute mess in terms of files and has been unbelievably unprofessional about the transition. Not only was he too much of a free agent to actually follow firm policy and submit co-counsel agreements and retainers, but he also didn't really understand the privacy controls on our electronic filing system. As such, I've been digging through his email and have now stumbled across not only his affair with a younger co-counsel associate, but also his further dickish and selfish behavior that has negatively impacted my ability to continue at this firm. Things are especially depressing since I kind of liked the guy and now know that he not only hosed over myself and others, but that his "mistress" (who I had a very high opinion of) really suffered. I so want to confront this guy and distribute some emails, but don't think that is the wisest idea. The best I can do is bitch online.
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MayakovskyMarmite posted:I need some anonymous relief/advice. The basic gist of the story is that the partner I pretty much exclusively worked for at a very successful litigation boutique jumped ship for a biglaw partnership. I was a little miffed that he left without even telling me he was thinking about leaving, but whatever. The problem is he also left an absolute mess in terms of files and has been unbelievably unprofessional about the transition. Not only was he too much of a free agent to actually follow firm policy and submit co-counsel agreements and retainers, but he also didn't really understand the privacy controls on our electronic filing system. Here's a happy thought. If he violated rules of professional conduct you're almost certainly obligated to report him.
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Someone here earlier mentioned that it may be possible to get a spot as an appellate attorney - was it Tax division? I can tell you that I know, first hand, a supreme court clerk who got turned away from a DOJ appellate group for lack of hiring authority. He knew the guy in charge of the office and everything, but OARM axed the hire nonetheless. Weep all ye who read this.
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MayakovskyMarmite posted:I need some anonymous relief/advice. The basic gist of the story is that the partner I pretty much exclusively worked for at a very successful litigation boutique jumped ship for a biglaw partnership. I was a little miffed that he left without even telling me he was thinking about leaving, but whatever. The problem is he also left an absolute mess in terms of files and has been unbelievably unprofessional about the transition. Not only was he too much of a free agent to actually follow firm policy and submit co-counsel agreements and retainers, but he also didn't really understand the privacy controls on our electronic filing system. Send it to abovethelaw.com Also are you a girl? Cause you sound a little jealous.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Send it to abovethelaw.com Not a girl, although I am constantly blown away by how loving sexist and disgusting most of the lawyers I have dealt with have been.
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One time a young paralegal wore a cat costume on Halloween, and a partner yelled at her to "Come and show me your costume, and you'd better be on all fours like a good little pussy."
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Phil Moscowitz posted:One time a young paralegal wore a cat costume on Halloween, and a partner yelled at her to "Come and show me your costume, and you'd better be on all fours like a good little pussy." my firm has some older partners who still do poo poo like this and it makes the office environment extreeeeemely uncomfortable
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MaximumBob posted:Here's a happy thought. If he violated rules of professional conduct you're almost certainly obligated to report him.
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nm posted:California at least doesn't have mandatory reporting, which is interesting.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:One time a young paralegal wore a cat costume on Halloween, and a partner yelled at her to "Come and show me your costume, and you'd better be on all fours like a good little pussy." oooof
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Phil Moscowitz posted:One time a young paralegal wore a cat costume on Halloween, and a partner yelled at her to "Come and show me your costume, and you'd better be on all fours like a good little pussy." The boss's wife used to do accounting for the firm I used to work at. That's how she found our boss's AshleyMadison.com account.
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gvibes posted:I know Illinois does. Most states do. California is weird. We're also still allowed sex with clients.
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nm posted:Most states do. California is weird.
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nm posted:Most states do. California is weird. No wonder it is so hard to pass the California bar exam. I thought attorneys were flocking there for the nice weather.
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Abu-Saleh posted:As a college freshman, I am curious about your guys' opinion as to whether the job market would have gotten better by the time after I hypothetically enrolled in and graduated from a law school, which is at minimum 8 years from now. I'm taking pre-med courses right now, but lawyering sounds like an equally respectable, and potentially more lucrative field (it's not as of now, I understand).
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MaximumBob posted:Here's a happy thought. If he violated rules of professional conduct you're almost certainly obligated to report him. Yeah, perhaps so, but that's not exactly a good career move, as sad as it is to say.
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Went to firm's holiday party. Was fun to see the partners and attorneys sloshed and yell at the TV during the badgers game. Too bad my boss had to drunkenly reaffirm they can't hire me after graduation because "there is no room." I least I got free food and drink and an envelope with some money in it for a holiday bonus. 
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every day I walk by cardozo and want to yell NO DON'T!
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atlas of bugs posted:every day I walk by cardozo and want to yell NO DON'T! Do we have any Cardozo goons? I know we're repped by pretty much everywhere else (that's T60). The Weird Times have set in. But so has apathy. Finals studying as a 3L is quite a bit different.
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sigmachiev posted:Do we have any Cardozo goons? I know we're repped by pretty much everywhere else (that's T60). By different you mean no one has bothered studying yet even though we're a day out. All the 3Ls are busy trying to find jobs, we don't have time for class.
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It's 2:28 in the morning and an assignment that's worth 75% of my mark is due in less than 22 hours. I'm just a little over half done and am realizing I may have less to write than I thought I would. Don't do it, kids. Don't go to law school. So far, it's given me worse eyesight and heart palpitations.
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Penguins Like Pies posted:It's 2:28 in the morning and an assignment that's worth 75% of my mark is due in less than 22 hours. I'm just a little over half done and am realizing I may have less to write than I thought I would. Stop ruining yourself. We all know you belong on the pole and not in a courtroom.
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30 minutes before my Civil Procedure final exam. Wish me luck, goons! (don't go, kids, I'm a callous shell of my former self and this is only my first exam)
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Boo Cocky posted:30 minutes before my Civil Procedure final exam. Wish me luck, goons! Good luck! It's not too late to withdraw from law school!
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Tax question: can someone tell me the difference between deductible service costs and capitalized service costs? Examples of each?
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fougera posted:Tax question: can someone tell me the difference between deductible service costs and capitalized service costs? Examples of each? Try the income tax thread, the CPA tax goons can probably give you a quick and concise answer.
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November MPRE scores are out think I definitely overprepared but at least I got a couple comics out of it
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Passed also. I think it's the worst I've ever done on a standardized test, but I feel like I spent too much time studying.
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Passed as well. It's good to finally get some moderately-good news relating to law school.
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I wildly overstudied for the MPRE. By a lot. But hooray for passing.
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Congrats but if any of you fail the MPRE please leave this thread and kill yourself
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Wow I didn't realize we had this many current students. We should force Linguica to update the OP with a current list of lawgoons.
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It's not like he has a job also, if I may step into my time machine: Hammer of Loki, at the end of Law School Megathread #2 in 2007: quote:I just wanted to give a heads-up that the thread is over a 1000 posts now, so it might be a good idea to post a new thread before the mods close this one. We were so quaint back then Soothing Vapors fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Dec 6, 2011 |
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Soothing Vapors posted:It's not like he has a job We're attorneys SV. How hosed up is that? We weren't even law students when we came to this thread, and now we're attorneys?
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