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Shasta Orange Soda posted:Respond with this. Ask them why they aren't thanking the Soviets several times for every American they thank: I'd rather just see straight numbers of troops per country, including partisans like China's.
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Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wwii_casualties#Human_losses_by_country It lists military deaths, civilian deaths, and deaths as a percentage of population. Partisan deaths are grouped in with military counts.
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 07:43 |
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This came from a relative of mine the other day:Email from a relative posted:TO THOSE IN MY HOUSE, MY HEART, MY LOVED ONES: EARTHQUAKES MEAN JESUS IS COMING!
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 16:34 |
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Shasta Orange Soda posted:Respond with this. Ask them why they aren't thanking the Soviets several times for every American they thank: Holy crap, I knew the fall of Manchuria to the USSR was the 'real' tipping point for Japanese surrender, but I didn't realize the scale of it was that offbalane in casualties. (Though I should have as Japanese army doctrine and equipment was incredibly bad)
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Nth Doctor posted:This came from a relative of mine the other day: Girding my loins SO HARD because of this.
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 19:16 |
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Sarion posted:Also, Obama is sending light bulb police to your house on January 1st to kill you if you have incandescent bulbs in your house! I was listening to Howie Carr here in Boston because I hate myself, and all the callers were calling in kvetching about the lightbulbs. Howie ends the day's broadcast with "Just think about it! They won't allow the Christian religion and prayer in school, but the Global Warming Religion is totally fine, and we all have to pray to Obama by buying what lightbulbs he tells us to!!!"
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 19:30 |
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You could probably make good money buying up lovely incandescents and reselling them to old conservatives under the brand of 'Freedom Bulbs'. Make sure to point out how you're a 100% american company suffering under the yoke of government oppression.
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Shasta Orange Soda posted:Respond with this. Ask them why they aren't thanking the Soviets several times for every American they thank: Just noticed something else, which is probably better, for people like that; for every 4 Americans they thank, they should thank 5 Frenchmen and 40 Chinese for protecting their right to badmouth the cheese-eating surrender monkeys and our job-stealing owners.
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Slaan posted:Holy crap, I knew the fall of Manchuria to the USSR was the 'real' tipping point for Japanese surrender, but I didn't realize the scale of it was that offbalane in casualties. (Though I should have as Japanese army doctrine and equipment was incredibly bad) It gets even worse when you realize that Japanese casualties are heavily biased towards deaths/missing whereas other countries tended to have a more balanced split between them. Japan combined military casualties: 1.7m Dead/missing, <100k wounded. US (All fronts): 417k Dead/missing, 684k wounded. (Air Force and Navy have a higher ratio of dead to wounded compared to ground forces, about 2:1 for Navy, 5:1 for Air Force) USSR (All fronts, so mostly European): 10.8m Dead/missing, 14.9m wounded. This may not count PoW deaths.
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chesh posted:My question is about her (and every GOP candidates) diatribe against the Department of Education. Seriously, what's the gripe? Its any easy target for stirring up anti-federal nonsense. People think they know what it does, they think its a Federal overreach and a waste of money, even though they don't and it isn't. Been a while since I looked at the break down of the DoEd budget but I remember it being something like: 1) Student loans and programs to help/encourage more kids get an education beyond high school 2) Programs to help disabled students 3) Studies to measure which States do a better job providing public education and why (I think this was 6% of the budget) 4) poo poo like No Child Left Behind DoEd actually does very little with Public education, but people whine about how since it was created, public schools haven't gotten better. So it must be a total waste! If it was shut down the biggest impact would be people no longer being able to afford college, yay!
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 19:52 |
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Really that Santa poem is easily the least offensive thing I've seen posted in here lets get some actual crazy e-mails like EARTHQUAKES and MOSLEM PRESIDENTS MEAN THE END TIMES. This is for crazy poo poo, not nit-picking.
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 19:56 |
Another front on the WAR ON CHRISTMAS
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 22:30 |
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I like the idea that there are non-made-up holidays
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 22:46 |
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Jesus was a felon, he was so bad he got the death penalty. Also. "gently caress your hoilday " "Someone didn't love CHRISTmas, . ITS A WAR " Apparently Jews get a pass cause they are almost right.
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 22:46 |
"heh, recognizing other holidays even exist? No thanks, I've got CHRISTmas."
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 22:49 |
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"Take your Unity and Faith and shove it! This is CHRISTmas!"
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 22:49 |
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Christams is a socialist holiday where people expect handouts. I wan't a holiday literally about hardwork and economics...
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Kosmonaut posted:I like the idea that there are non-made-up holidays Uh everyone knows the 25th of december is Jesus' birthday, it's just history, libtard.
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Nth Doctor posted:I STRETCHED MY HANDS UP TO GOD AND CRIED "ABBA, FATHER!"
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 22:57 |
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Bombadilillo posted:Jesus was a felon, he was so bad he got the death penalty. Holy gently caress
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 23:09 |
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Sarion posted:Its any easy target for stirring up anti-federal nonsense. People think they know what it does, they think its a Federal overreach and a waste of money, even though they don't and it isn't. Yeah, the cognitive dissonance actually physically hurts my brain.
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# ? Dec 5, 2011 23:38 |
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Plom Bar posted:Holy gently caress I'm going to save that line for later when I get really pissed off by someone on facebook.
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FactsAreUseless posted:And the LORD did spin them right round, BABY, right round, like a record BABY right round round round. Abba is the Hebrew word for Father.
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Pththya-lyi posted:Abba is the Hebrew word for Father. Also that line is Dead or Alive, not ABBA.
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a foolish pianist posted:Also that line is Dead or Alive, not ABBA.
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# ? Dec 6, 2011 00:33 |
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Just saw this posted to Facebookquote:The Muppets Are Communist, Fox Business Network Says
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Bombadilillo posted:Jesus was a felon, he was so bad he got the death penalty. And Moses was a
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quote:ultimately what they're telling kids is what they told you in the movie 'The Matrix': that mankind is a virus on poor old mother Earth. Does he not realize that was the view held by the villian in that film? I got another one today: quote:The Classroom Interestingly, this one actually is true. It still feels uncomfortable to me. Not because I hate the military or anything, it's just the feeling that things have crossed over from respect for soldiers into the realm of creepy military worship. It's getting to the point that anytime the military does anything, it was to "protect are freedoms, they aint free!" Except, as close as I can tell, no one is actually trying to take any of them away. What freedoms were saved by Vietnam or Iraq? How can we honestly look at the way we use our military if we view it through a blurry lens of everything they do is for our freedoms? It seems like if we really want to show these men and women willing to die for our country some respect, we could at least start by not being so willing to throw those lives away without good cause. Or maybe that's the problem, we don't want to have to admit to ourselves that thousands of young Americans have died needlessly, and it's easier to tell ourselves that it was for the most noblest of causes: our freedoms (and desks, because they don't have schools in North Korea).
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The freedoms that we have aren't 'earned' by vets, though they might be protected by vets. You don't earn freedom, its a right. You get it for existing. EDIT: I know it seems like a minor distinction, but alot of people seem to conflate 'privilege' and 'right', usually when they want to justify taking away some rights. seigfox fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Dec 6, 2011 |
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Cowslips Warren posted:I asked why these poems are always sent around written by an unknown Marine, never an Air Force guy, never an Army grunt. Marines are kind of like the American SS. They're an army within the army who are portrayed as elite and such, when really they're just a bunch of dumb incompetent uneducated indoctrinated ultra-nationalists who are useful to the political party in power and that's about it. The U.S. Marines are even underfunded and they take this as a source of pride. Which is funny really because it just kinda goes to show how expendable they are to the powers that be. Also you have to consider that while the military protects freedoms, they're historically the ones who also try to take it away. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Dec 6, 2011 |
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This is a multifaceted subject. First, its not a crazy point, ARE FREEDOMS have been protected by kicking rear end on occasion. But then we go dick around in Vietnam cause of some psycho domino theory, cause if one small southern Asian country fall to communism then the world ends. No freedoms protected. Also veterans and especially surviving families get treated like poo poo. It boggles my mind.
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quote:Also veterans and especially surviving families get treated like poo poo. It boggles my mind. SUPPORT ARE TROOPS!!! is the mode nationalists exist in while the soldiers are off dying, but when they come home and need our help it's "gently caress, YOU!! I GOT MINE!!"
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And you can't criticize anyone in the military or you're not a patriot. And if you don't buy a 99 cent I SUPPORT THE TROOPS yellow ribbon magnet from WalMart (made in China), you're not a patriot. Funny, when the Nazis did it, it was bad. But it's done to us to protect our freedoms. Or something. So where is the ultraconservative version of that story, where a kid went home and told his parents his teacher was nuts, and the parents complained and the teacher, for trying to educate them American kids about communism, was fired? Or another version where kids whined to their parents and the parents brought desks in, because you can't expect a free lunch or help from anyone unless you're a lazy welfare queen? I'd prefer a version where a parent goes into the classroom the next day with a desk and chair for his kid, and tells the teacher that education is a right, not a privilege, and tax dollars help fund the education in this school, and also her job. Assuming this is a public school of course. How did these kids earn the right to an education? Well, we have a citizen-by-birth law here, so that's how. And perhaps in addition to the veterans hauling in desks, have carpenters, furniture designers, architects of the school, authors of the textbooks, etc, all show up with their utensils as a reminder that no man is an island and we all depend on each other to make it. But that's communism, ain't it.
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chesh posted:Just saw this posted to Facebook I'm calling it. Civilization over. And I didn't even LIKE the new muppet movie...
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chesh posted:Just saw this posted to Facebook How can the Muppets be so anti-capitalist if they are guided by invisible hands?
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# ? Dec 6, 2011 04:29 |
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mearn posted:How can the Muppets be so anti-capitalist if they are guided by invisible hands? Psh, surely everyone knows that the Jews control Hollywood! Or is that the liberals?
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Marines are kind of like the American SS. They're an army within the army who are portrayed as elite and such, when really they're just a bunch of dumb incompetent uneducated indoctrinated ultra-nationalists who are useful to the political party in power and that's about it. The U.S. Marines are even underfunded and they take this as a source of pride. Which is funny really because it just kinda goes to show how expendable they are to the powers that be. To expand on this, the Marine Corps is extremely specialized in both doctrine and equipment to serve as a sort of first-response force that can show up anywhere on the planet in a short amount of time and fight on land, sea, and air until either whatever they were sent to kill is dead or less flexible but much more numerous regular forces show up to reinforce them. The Marines themselves are told this is because they are more skilled than Army grunts but there's not much difference in their training programs and any difference in skill is probably explained by less-skilled Marines having a very high mortality rate. This is part of the reason there are Army Rangers and MARSOC, Marines were never supposed to be better, just differently specialized. That doesn't stop the Marines from passing the "best of the best" line they've been fed by drill instructors and such on to friends and family and from there into American culture. Kosmonaut fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Dec 6, 2011 |
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mearn posted:How can the Muppets be so anti-capitalist if they are guided by invisible hands? Nicely done. Also, I feel obliged to note that the US Marines are separate and distinct from the US Army, and fall under the Department of the Navy, having evolved conceptually from the marine infantry carried on ships for boarding and amphibious actions.
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yaoi prophet posted:And Moses was a even worse a terrorist who used WMDs on a civilian population(plague is biological warfare right?). Ferrosol fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Dec 6, 2011 |
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Marines are kind of like the American SS. They're an army within the army who are portrayed as elite and such, when really they're just a bunch of dumb incompetent uneducated indoctrinated ultra-nationalists who are useful to the political party in power and that's about it. I think you're really off base with that one. For starters, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler Let's try not make gross generalizations because we disagree with the US foreign policy, shall we? Every large group has it's fair share of incompetent assholes as well of it's share of well rounded people, the Marines (or any other military branch, US or otherwise) are no different. Sure they may have a few more on average since they tend to attract Type A personalities, but to say they are kinda like the SS is an extremely gross exaggeration. I agree the "SUPPORT ARE TROOPS" worship trend is annoying as gently caress, but you'd be surprised at the number of service members who get just as annoyed about that poo poo as you do. For every 1 service member that shouts "I EARNED YER FREEDOMS" there are 2-3 silently wishing they would just shut the gently caress up because he didn't earn anyone poo poo, and that showboating is for assholes. Kosmonaut posted:To expand on this, the Marine Corps is extremely specialized in both doctrine and equipment to serve as a sort of first-response force that can show up anywhere on the planet in a short amount of time and fight on land, sea, and air until either whatever they were sent to kill is dead or less flexible but much more numerous regular forces show up to reinforce them. The Marines themselves are told this is because they are more skilled than Army grunts but there's not much difference in their training programs and any difference in skill is probably explained by less-skilled Marines having a very high mortality rate. This is part of the reason there are Army Rangers and MARSOC, Marines were never supposed to be better, just differently specialized. That doesn't stop the Marines from passing the "best of the best" line they've been fed by drill instructors and such on to friends and family and from there into American culture. You're mostly correct about this. I'd say the easiest way to sum it up is that the Marines are far better at quickly taking an objective and securing it, while the Army is far better suited to hold it over the long term since they have the logistical and support systems in place to support a long term operation/occupation. If you look at how The Pacific War was handled, you saw a majority of the time Marines being used to take objectives en masse, while the Army helped support and hold whatever was gained afterwards. This also happened to a limited extent in Iraq as well. Personally, I think the way the UK and the Dutch run their respective Marine branches is what the US should be aiming for (Very small, limited operations, more traditional "Marine" roll), but good luck doing that in the US with way we spend money on the military. /derail For actual content, I got one of those "Holiday Tree" emails at work...but the irony was, it came from a state employee and was forwarded to a shitload of people, including a few people at my company. Some Religious poo poo heel said posted:FWD: Where is God in the World? The guy who brought it to my attention at work said he thought it was "interesting" that Obama would do such a thing. I sent him the Snopes link debunking the poo poo out of it and he was actually receptive to the fact it was made up. Ended up having a nice conversation about it and how religion really has no place in Government but you get people trying to cram it in there anyways with stupid poo poo like this. I was going to send an email to the department head of the woman who forwarded this, but she sent out an email four minutes later apologizing that she didn't mean for it to go out to everyone. So I let it go. Ironically enough, my home state's governor (Rhode Island) has started calling Christmas Trees, Holiday Trees at press conferences and such. I think he's just trying to troll people though because he's basically done nothing but piss all over the tea party movement and conservatives for his first year in office (calling for ID's and licenses for illegal immigrants, amnesty to their kids so they can go to college, calling for Marijuana to be declared a Class 2 narcotic/decriminalization). He also called Sarah Palin a whacko before it was cool in the media less than a week after she was picked by McCain to be his running mate. Governor Lincoln "Troll the Tea Party" Chaffee Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Dec 6, 2011 |
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