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Jaha plays Lil B from his phone speaker into the mic while on stream commentating for thousands. Jaha has the worst gimmick ever and it doesnt belong on FG streams. He is also a misogynist and when I told him that on stream chat he tried to read the word misogynist when reading my comment aloud and couldn't pronounce it and then gave up. Jaha is a bad person.
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You're acting like a bunch of chat stream monsters right now Jaha owns.
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Dec 6, 2011 09:43
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PonchAxis posted:You're acting like a bunch of chat stream monsters right now Jaha owns. Stream monsters like him, though. I really don't. Also, even though he is on commentary, I rarely see him provide any sort of meaningful insight into the match or make the game more accessible for spectators (which is the purpose of commentary). Jaha is like fgc mystery science theatre and its bad
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Dec 6, 2011 09:46
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PonchAxis posted:You're acting like a bunch of chat stream monsters right now Jaha owns. Swag
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Dec 6, 2011 10:05
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Jeez stop being mad about commentators I want to hear some more sweet info about SC V from people who were at NEC instead.
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Dec 6, 2011 10:12
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All that really matters in terms of any given competitive avenue's potential advancement is its potential for profitability. If a fighting game can hold a certain number of spectator eyes, it will be exploited for profit. The big Starcraft scene in Korea where games are televised and guys play professionally and the entire thing plays out similarly to how your average professional sport might, that happened because companies were willing to mine the game's audience for money. And yes, it is the audience that ultimately matters. Professional competitions on a base level exist because people want to watch. To use a small but relevant example, a potential sponsor isn't going to pay to advertise their product on a stream because Justin Wong is playing Game X; they're going to pay because people are watching Justin Wong play Game X. You might try saying that these things are the same, but they are not. Justin Wong is easily replaced in this example. The audience is static and irreplaceable. It must exist to allow for commercial viability. To single out people like Scoots or some commentator at Dreamhack is to miss the point. People equate to money, so where the people go, the business will follow. If the scene continues to grow in its popularity, it will steadily become more professional and more people like Scoots will begin to come around, i.e., they will be unable to ignore the potential for profit. And the level of play will absolutely rise as professionalism increases. There will be talented players who are willing to spend All drat Day practicing, and they will be given the opportunity to do so by that increase in cash flow. The level of play will rise, and you would ultimately see something similar to what exists in Starcraft now. Is Daigo 100 times more likely to be randomed out of a tournament tomorrow than a top SC player? Yes, because the competitive structure is very different. This would eventually change in a more professional environment. Match structure would favor extended sets, something like a FT10, which would more closely align with the amount of time SC matches play out over. To compensate for this, many more filters for the competitors themselves would be put in place. You wouldn't have hundreds of guys signing up for the main event at Evo, you'd have to hundreds of guys trying to work their way through the qualification system for the opportunity to be among the few participating in the main event at Evo. These are all changes one might not like or appreciate, but it's an inevitability if things continue to progress. But who knows if they will or not, idk.
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Dec 6, 2011 11:03
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tranceMD posted:All that really matters in terms of any given competitive avenue's potential advancement is its potential for profitability. If a fighting game can hold a certain number of spectator eyes, it will be exploited for profit. The big Starcraft scene in Korea where games are televised and guys play professionally and the entire thing plays out similarly to how your average professional sport might, that happened because companies were willing to mine the game's audience for money. And yes, it is the audience that ultimately matters. Professional competitions on a base level exist because people want to watch. Let me read all of these words... NOT lol Whats the scoop on 2012 for PC? Any new info out there?? Holla at me (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 6, 2011 11:40
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ShinsoBEAM! posted:Jeez stop being mad about commentators I want to hear some more sweet info about SC V from people who were at NEC instead. I hope someone chimes in on this too. I only saw like 2 seconds of the SC V stream, but apparently they've got supers now. That and the dress up mode is actually making me look forward to it. I might be a scrub.
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Dec 6, 2011 12:42
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Cactus! posted:Whats the scoop on 2012 for PC? Any new info out there?? Holla at me Do you mean AE2012? PC will get the patch on December 13 too.
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Dec 6, 2011 12:53
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tranceMD posted:Is Daigo 100 times more likely to be randomed out of a tournament tomorrow than a top SC player? Yes, because the competitive structure is very different. This would eventually change in a more professional environment. Match structure would favor extended sets, something like a FT10, which would more closely align with the amount of time SC matches play out over. To compensate for this, many more filters for the competitors themselves would be put in place. You wouldn't have hundreds of guys signing up for the main event at Evo, you'd have to hundreds of guys trying to work their way through the qualification system for the opportunity to be among the few participating in the main event at Evo. These are all changes one might not like or appreciate, but it's an inevitability if things continue to progress. But who knows if they will or not, idk. Yeah basically no one wants the tournament structure to progress like this and it's one of the main reasons people reject capitalism in the FGC. The top players in the FGC are pretty drat accessible as far as top players in a competitive game go, and people don't want to see that change.
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Dec 6, 2011 14:25
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I don't think that many top players are "randomed out" at least in Street Fighter. Typically, the top players perform with a high degree of consistency at major tournaments. Sure, upsets do happen, but with the double elimination format the favorite usually tears through inferior opposition in the losers bracket and isn't hurt that much. When was the last time you saw a top player get eliminated by an unknown in Street Fighter? Now Marvel is an entirely different beast, but I think even that wouldn't be much of a problem if they made the matches 3/5.
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Dec 6, 2011 14:44
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Roguelike posted:I hope someone chimes in on this too. I only saw like 2 seconds of the SC V stream, but apparently they've got supers now. That and the dress up mode is actually making me look forward to it. Don't worry, everyone likes dressup in fighting games.
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Dec 6, 2011 15:10
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Dec 6, 2011 15:23
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PonchAxis posted:Yeah they've tried this already and they used DOA and Virtua Fighter, followed by Tekken 6. And I think Brawl was a MLG game but honestly I have no idea. Prolly because of MLG. The following of Tekken is pretty great with plenty of international players that travel frequently. Not sure why it was dropped~
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Dec 6, 2011 17:00
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whip posted:Prolly because of MLG. The following of Tekken is pretty great with plenty of international players that travel frequently. Not sure why it was dropped~ Not Hardcore enough (not enough guns)
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Dec 6, 2011 17:41
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Gutcruncher posted:Not Hardcore enough (not enough guns) We have 2 characters in particular whose arms are guns  I need to watch Tekken: Blood Vengeance
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Dec 6, 2011 17:53
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whip posted:Prolly because of MLG. I hate MLG as much as anybody, but I think you are underestimating how difficult it is to generate cash money from tekken spectators.
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Dec 6, 2011 18:10
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My local lan cafe tried doing Brawl tournaments but they never bought anything ever, just got dropped off and picked up by their moms or friends, went to the back and didnt even purchase a fuckin soda.
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Dec 6, 2011 18:18
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40 OZ posted:I hate MLG as much as anybody, but I think you are underestimating how difficult it is to generate cash money from tekken spectators. Did they do any fighting games at all after they dropped Tekken? Robolizard! posted:My local lan cafe tried doing Brawl tournaments but they never bought anything ever, just got dropped off and picked up by their moms or friends, went to the back and didnt even purchase a fuckin soda. I went to a tournament on the north of Atlanta and 70 or so people show up Brawl. More than SF & Tekken combined 
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Dec 6, 2011 18:35
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Can someone please explain to me who this Christ Hu guy is? I've seen his commentary and him play the game but this guy just came from China to play video games and do commentary? What is his deal?
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Dec 6, 2011 18:51
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He's an American citizen now, and he does some sort of financial work or diamonds or something. And he's an S+ tier commentator.
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Dec 6, 2011 19:05
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kaujot posted:He's an American citizen now, and he does some sort of financial work or diamonds or something. And he's an S+ tier commentator. He used to sell pearl necklaces (seriously) but now he works at Next Level. His family moved here from China.
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Dec 6, 2011 19:11
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Wezlar posted:He used to sell pearl necklaces (seriously) but now he works at Next Level. His family moved here from China. Ah, I thought he was only working at Next Level in his spare time.
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Also his family's house burned down and the community put together like a truck-full of dollars for them because he's pretty awesome.
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Dec 6, 2011 19:38
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tzz posted:Do you mean AE2012? PC will get the patch on December 13 too. This has not been confirmed AFAIK.
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Dec 6, 2011 19:43
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rivals posted:This has not been confirmed AFAIK. quote:Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition is available now for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC. The Version 2012 update will be available for no charge on Dec 13, 2011. I don't think they'd mention the PC version in the press release about version 2012 if it wasn't going to get the patch, but who knows.
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Dec 6, 2011 19:53
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That's awesome, no other announcement had been made that included PC. Everything I've seen/heard has just said "console" and they never specified if it included PC or not. Glad to hear that will be out at the same time.
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Dec 6, 2011 21:01
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scuz posted:Also his family's house burned down and the community put together like a truck-full of dollars for them because he's pretty awesome. Burned down with his family's life savings inside it, because they didn't trust banks. I wouldn't either if I lived in the states  Also I agree the mysogyny comments on stream, that poo poo gets annoying after a while. You can tell pretty easily from spooky's reactions when that stuff gets said that he doesn't like it, so I wonder why he doesn't put his foot down on it. I mean Yipes swears a lot but I don't really recall him using the word "rape" to describe every match like some of the other people that get on the mic. Maybe I'm just blinded by my love for yipes' commentary  .
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Dec 6, 2011 21:14
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I'm pretty sure Spooky has kicked Jaha off the mic before.
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Dec 6, 2011 21:21
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flatluigi posted:I'm pretty sure Spooky has kicked Jaha off the mic before. It was for playing music and doing the swag poo poo DURING matches.
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Dash O Pepper posted:Burned down with his family's life savings inside it, because they didn't trust banks. I wouldn't either if I lived in the states quote:Also I agree the mysogyny comments on stream, that poo poo gets annoying after a while. You can tell pretty easily from spooky's reactions when that stuff gets said that he doesn't like it, so I wonder why he doesn't put his foot down on it. v
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Yeah, the mysogyny should stop. During NEC, Persia and Nina did some commentary for Marvel, and Persia actually knows her poo poo, although she's not fuckin' Yipes or anything like that. But all you could see in the stream chat was "get this fuckin' bitches out of here" and variants there of, to stay with a tame example. It got extremely annoying after a while, because they wouldn't say anything that wasn't direct offenses to the girls and flooded the chat with that. And okay, stream monsters will be stream monsters, but you get people on the mic reinforcing that type of behavior too. gently caress MLG and if they support us/we support them, poo poo like this is the most basic step to be treated as a legit competitive thing. That's not me being all whiny about stupid jokes, I love offensive jokes, but you can notice when someone is actually being serious behind that sort of comment, especially when that's all they can say even after there's no girls to be seem on the stream.
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Dias posted:That's not me being all whiny about stupid jokes, I love offensive jokes, but you can notice when someone is actually being serious behind that sort of comment, especially when that's all they can say even after there's no girls to be seem on the stream. Yeah that's kinda the problem with offensive jokes. They're you know, offensive. They offend people. How joking you think you are really doesn't make that big a difference
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dangerdoom volvo posted:Yeah that's kinda the problem with offensive jokes. They're you know, offensive. They offend people. How joking you think you are really doesn't make that big a difference True that, but there's a world of difference between a Louis CK standup set and "hurr fat bitches show me your tits or get out", being offensive as a form of satire a la A Modest Proposal, etc, etc. Anyway, this is derailing this thread and we got another one for this sort of discussion. Anyone gonna play Tekken Tag 2? I know you lot are allergic to 3D fighters, but Tekken Tag is pretty fast-paced and actually entertaining to watch. Unfortunately, my low-tier bitch condition flared up and Jun/Asuka apparently suck in this game. Not that Jun was good in TTT, quite the opposite. Fuckin' Mishimas. EDIT: vvv that is true, I'm one of them, hehe. The only player that picked that team up in NEC got blown up pretty badly too. Dias fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Dec 6, 2011 |
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Dec 6, 2011 23:00
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To be fair, Asuka/Jun tend to attract a lot of bad players for some reason, so tier speculation may not be all that accurate.
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Yoshimitsu looks great in TTT2 but Alisa lost her good backdash so looks like team Alishitsu evens out~
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washow posted:Can someone please explain to me who this Christ Hu guy is? I've seen his commentary and him play the game but this guy just came from China to play video games and do commentary? What is his deal? Dias posted:Yeah, the mysogyny should stop. During NEC, Persia and Nina did some commentary for Marvel, and Persia actually knows her poo poo, although she's not fuckin' Yipes or anything like that.
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iPodschun posted:Actually, she is fuckin' Yipes. Persia is his girlfriend. ...and that's why you need to be careful in your usage of expletives, people.
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Can't wait to try out TTT2 this weekend! Feels good having an arcade.
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