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Why cookie Rocket posted:
At the end of the last book, Daenerys will finally reach King's Landing, she'll open the door to the Red Keep and in front of her will be the Dothraki Sea. An irresistable force will push her through the door. "Victory. But not for you, Targaryan. Never for you. You darkle. You tinct. May I be brutally frank? You go on. And each time you forget the last time. For you, each time is the first time. She made one final effort to draw back: hopeless. Rhollor was stronger. She shakes her head to clear it. Wasn't she just doing something else? To either side of her are her new husband, Khal Drogo,and her brother Viserys. She reaches down and touches the Horn of Joramun. Spoiled for those who haven't finish Dark Tower yet.
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Oh, we've spoiled Dark Tower numerous times in this thread, I'm sure. I remember a few derails of how incredibly stupid it was.
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Dec 6, 2011 16:56
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Tyrion I must warn you I sense something strange in my mind Yo situation is serious Let's cure it 'cause we're running out of time it's all so beautiful Trials by battle they seem from the start It's all so deadly When Dornish Princes roll on in to play a part It's driving me out of my mind That's why it's hard for me to find Can't get it outta my head Gregor, Lannister, Highgarden, wrong move you're dead... never trust a longspear and a smile
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Dec 6, 2011 17:02
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It's sad in a way that I've resigned myself to the fact that GRRM will most likely die before completeing his fantasy dodecaolgy or however many books it'll take to end it. I came into this series as the last (long) iteration of the bad thread was dying down, and was astonished by the content, not necessarily in a good way. Having "finished" the series and gone through the customary discussions with friends and forumgoers, I now see how something like the bad thread could form. I'm not comfortable with that realization. Somebody write a Ser Robert Strong PI.
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Dec 6, 2011 18:02
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Aurubin posted:It's sad in a way that I've resigned myself to the fact that GRRM will most likely die before completeing his fantasy dodecaolgy or however many books it'll take to end it. One of us, one of us, one of us...
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Dec 6, 2011 19:30
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Aurubin posted:It's sad in a way that I've resigned myself to the fact that GRRM will most likely die before completeing his fantasy dodecaolgy or however many books it'll take to end it. My friend just finished the books and came to basically all the bad thread's conclusions on his own. poo poo owned. nuncle jimbo fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Dec 6, 2011 |
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Dec 6, 2011 22:58
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uncle jimbo posted:My friend just finished the books and came to basically all the bad thread's conclusions on his own. poo poo owned. The bad thread is inevitable. It is known.
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Dec 7, 2011 00:17
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neongrey posted:The bad thread is inevitable. It is known. It is known. It was, is, and always will be. The wheel of.time keeps a-turnin'.
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Dec 7, 2011 01:59
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http://www.dorkly.com/article/26731/the-nine-greatest-nerd-fears-today I wonder if Martin gives a gently caress to be honest, I mean, by reputation he's supposed to be the go to guy at conventions, so surely multiple fans have voiced their concerns about his health. Do it for the fans, man, the smelly fans...
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Dec 7, 2011 02:44
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He hates his fans, unless they're females he can inappropriately touch. Someone post those pictures from the bad thread OPs of yore.
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Dec 7, 2011 04:30
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My guess is that by this point he sees aSoIaF as a job that he's stuck with, and sees the fans as little more than customers. Conceptually the only difference between him and a McDonalds worker is that he only needs to make one burger and it takes him 5 years to do it. When did he decide to make the whole thing more than a trilogy anyway? I bet he wakes up in the morning regretting that decision all the time.
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Dec 7, 2011 04:48
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The end of that Davos chapter where they hint he's going to Skagos is the biggest  of the entire series. Only bad things happen there.  Someone mentioned Aegon having been theorized in the story since the very beginning. Where were the hints for that?
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Dec 7, 2011 07:54
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mind the walrus posted:My guess is that by this point he sees aSoIaF as a job that he's stuck with, and sees the fans as little more than customers. Conceptually the only difference between him and a McDonalds worker is that he only needs to make one burger and it takes him 5 years to do it. He probably doesn't wake up in the mornings
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Dec 7, 2011 10:01
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Capsaicin posted:Someone mentioned Aegon having been theorized in the story since the very beginning. Where were the hints for that? The biggest hint that had people thinking it for a very long time was that in interviews GRRM was cagey and avoidant about saying that Aegon was dead, whereas he'd always straight-up confirm Rhaenys as having died of a couple of dozen stabbings.
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Dec 7, 2011 12:38
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Aurubin posted:http://www.dorkly.com/article/26731/the-nine-greatest-nerd-fears-today He doesn't give a gently caress. He's bitched on his blog about people saying they're worried he'll die before the series is done, and like a petulant child, he says that he will leave instructions to have all his notes destroyed after his death if that should happen (it will). The Bad Thread evolved as it did for far more reasons than just irritation over having to wait forever between books. HoAssHo fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Dec 7, 2011 |
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Dec 7, 2011 13:27
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SammyWhereAreYou posted:He doesn't give a gently caress. HBO has those notes now, worthless as they may be.
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Dec 7, 2011 13:39
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Maarak posted:HBO has those notes now, worthless as they may be. Yes I recall hearing one of the caveats with the show was that he had to share with the producers how the whole thing ends. I do love GRRM's website though, it is straight out of 1998. Ross fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Dec 7, 2011 |
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Dec 7, 2011 14:46
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GRRM's entire net presence is from 1998. Dude still uses LiveJournal. He could totally migrate to Wordpress; I think the professional version even has tools to import posts and their comment chains, so he wouldn't lose his wonderful history of getting fellated by fans for no reason.
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Dec 7, 2011 15:26
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Maarak posted:HBO has those notes now, worthless as they may be. If the last 10 years have taught us anything, it's that Gurm's notes are probably some weak ending with no roadmap as to how to get to it. Not that HBO is going to stick it out for 7-8 seasons anyway.
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Dec 7, 2011 15:37
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IRQ posted:If the last 10 years have taught us anything, it's that Gurm's notes are probably some weak ending with no roadmap as to how to get to it. Not that HBO is going to stick it out for 7-8 seasons anyway. The notes are probably about a dozen or so characters and plots that haven't been introduced to the reader yet.
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Dec 7, 2011 16:53
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:GRRM's entire net presence is from 1998. Dude still uses LiveJournal. He could totally migrate to Wordpress; I think the professional version even has tools to import posts and their comment chains, so he wouldn't lose his wonderful history of getting fellated by fans for no reason. Its not for no reason... his semen tastes like cinnamon and lamprey pie.
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Dec 7, 2011 21:34
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Capsaicin posted:The end of that Davos chapter where they hint he's going to Skagos is the biggest I'm saying this in hindsight but there were an awful lot of references to his baby head getting smashed whenever they talked about it, making identification difficult.
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Dec 7, 2011 21:47
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IRQ posted:If the last 10 years have taught us anything, it's that Gurm's notes are probably some weak ending with no roadmap as to how to get to it. Not that HBO is going to stick it out for 7-8 seasons anyway. HBO's already in it for four seasons. (No announcement, but the crew is scheduled to return to filming in May doing S3 and S4 concurrently) For a friend, I summarized the last two books and it took me three pages to get the important info out, so I assume they'll knock that out in ten episodes. If anything, I think the show is going to catch up to him somewhere between 6 and 7. I wouldn't be surprised (if HBO doesn't cancel it after what will likely be a horrible S5) that the final book and final season come out at nearly the same time and the writers on the show have a hand in getting the story done. And that's all considering the writers don't say "This really should have been a loving trilogy" and wrap things up their own way at the end of S4.
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Dec 7, 2011 22:29
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They seemed pretty smart about what to pull from book 2 into S1, I trust they'll be able to craft decent seasons out of the material and then have some sort of terrible situation when they catch up.
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Dec 7, 2011 22:34
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Arms_Akimbo posted:And that's all considering the writers don't say "This really should have been a loving trilogy" and wrap things up their own way at the end of S4. 
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Dec 7, 2011 22:36
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While I haven't yet had the time to develop the sulfuric vitriol that bad thread veterans have, this is a character driven book series. This necessitates long, (from a narrative perspective) uncondensed passages of time to make their development seem organic. Moral ambiguity is hard to show in 200 words or less. That said, less loving food descriptions. I get it, everybody ate lamprey pie in the 1200s, move on.
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Dec 7, 2011 23:59
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Aurubin posted:Moral ambiguity is hard to show in 200 words or less. Maybe. Maybe not. Who's to say?
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Dec 8, 2011 00:05
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If this book is being driven by characters that would explain why it's careening out of control, destined to jump a siderail and litter bodies all along the interstate.
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Dec 8, 2011 00:20
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Maybe. Maybe not. Who's to say? Brevity is wit.
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It wouldn't be the worst-thing to have the epic be driven by characters, but to do that he'd need to actually move the characters about. I like that he spends lots of time with each character's thoughts as they move into a new environment, but for gently caress's sake you can actually skip forward in time and not lose out on organic nuance.
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Dec 8, 2011 04:03
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The worst thing is, GRRM CAN really move the plot along when he wants to. It was one of the great things about the first three books. Pretty much every single chapter would change something. And look at Jon Connington. Two or three chapters and he's gone from captaining a river boat to having reclaimed his castle across the sea.
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Junkenstein posted:And look at Jon Connington. Two or three chapters and he's gone from captaining a river boat to having reclaimed his castle across the sea. ...aaaaaand already has a death sentence.  Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Dec 8, 2011 |
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Dec 8, 2011 16:42
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Time Magazine: Best fiction of 2011: A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin quote:It was, famously, six years between the last Song of Ice and Fire book and this one. What was George R.R. Martin doing all that time? Was he wandering in the wilderness? Was he sunning on the beaches of Dorne? No: he was girding his loins and rallying the banners, and he has come charging back with one of the strongest books of the series, and the year.
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Dec 8, 2011 17:37
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He was certainly doing something with his loins.
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Dec 8, 2011 18:04
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I'm surprised their "Best Novel of 2011" wasn't just a mirrored surface. YOU are the best novel!
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Dec 8, 2011 18:11
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Thanks for naming nine books worse than Dance, Time. I'll be sure to avoid them.
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Dec 8, 2011 18:46
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Literature is dead. Long lives vivid descriptions of nubile girls making GBS threads in rivers.
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Thomase posted:Time Magazine: You missed an important part here: 1. A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin By Lev Grossman If you're familiar with Mr. Grossman's novels (The Magicians, The Magician King), the fact that he thinks ADWD is good should not in the least surprise you.
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Dec 8, 2011 21:02
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Thomase posted:Time Magazine: The gently caress. A_H write the piece?
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Haha, no. That would require A_H to be a published author.
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