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wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003
Sounds like a myth. When I go above 0db on the master, Live clips.

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Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!

wayfinder posted:

Sounds like a myth. When I go above 0db on the master, Live clips.

Yeah, same here. I can hear it during soundcheck when I've bumped my master fader above 0.

Quincy Smallvoice
Mar 18, 2006

Bitches leave
maybe they are magical decibels

the Gaffe
Jul 4, 2011

you gotta believe dawg
:iiam:

Chitin
Apr 29, 2007

It is no sign of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

Twiin posted:

Yeah, same here. I can hear it during soundcheck when I've bumped my master fader above 0.

Your probably right. Just shows I haven't clipped the master in forever :colbert:

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003
Everyone's seen this, right? http://tarekith.com/sound-quality-live-versus-logic/

h_double
Jul 27, 2001

Longhouse posted:

Ok, so I have a question that I feel is a bit stupid, since it probably gets asked all the time. But I haven't seen it come up recently, so here goes:

What budget softsynth would you personally recommend as a first?

The two options I've been thinking about are Razor and Phosphor.

u-HE's ACE has become one of my main go-to synths lately. It's a virtual analog semimodular design -- it doesn't have the insta-zazzle oscillators and filters found on other synths and it can sound a little plain out of the box, but once I spent a little time reading the manual and digging into the modulation options, it can get pretty bananas. It sounds really warm and smooth and I love the UI (which, like a vintage analog, all parameters are visible onscreen at all time -- this makes for a good "learner" synth that's still extremely capable).

Chitin
Apr 29, 2007

It is no sign of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

wayfinder posted:

Everyone's seen this, right? http://tarekith.com/sound-quality-live-versus-logic/

I'd heard it mentioned but it's nice to be able to link to the article.

EDIT: Article not audio. Need coffee.

Beef Log Boy
Jul 6, 2004

Cut the Cheeeeese Log and I'm a happy fellow!
Really short excerpt of what I've been working on. I know it isn't a lot yet, but if anyone has any feedback that'd be awesome.

http://soundcloud.com/shreddie-mercury/blehhhh/s-z8Aky

Chitin
Apr 29, 2007

It is no sign of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

Beef Log Boy posted:

Really short excerpt of what I've been working on. I know it isn't a lot yet, but if anyone has any feedback that'd be awesome.

http://soundcloud.com/shreddie-mercury/blehhhh/s-z8Aky

I'd love to hear the kick more in the first half, and have some more interesting stuff going on with your synth. Maybe sidechain that synth to the kick and do a filter sweep right before the drop?

Really great work though, love the vox.

Claes Oldenburger
Apr 23, 2010

Metal magician!
:black101:

Beef Log Boy posted:

Really short excerpt of what I've been working on. I know it isn't a lot yet, but if anyone has any feedback that'd be awesome.

http://soundcloud.com/shreddie-mercury/blehhhh/s-z8Aky

I don't have much to say technically, because i'm still new to a lot of this stuff myself...but i really really like this. The only thing that sounds off is the lyrics right after the first kick, but it might be because of some other background vocals or something? Either way, after that when it goes "OoOoOoo" and then drops is really sweet!

Beef Log Boy
Jul 6, 2004

Cut the Cheeeeese Log and I'm a happy fellow!

Chitin posted:

I'd love to hear the kick more in the first half, and have some more interesting stuff going on with your synth. Maybe sidechain that synth to the kick and do a filter sweep right before the drop?

Really great work though, love the vox.

That's a good idea actually. I've been trying to think of a way to kill every bit of energy just immediately before the drop, and a filter sweep isn't something I've thought of. Thanks!

Claes Oldenburger posted:

I don't have much to say technically, because i'm still new to a lot of this stuff myself...but i really really like this. The only thing that sounds off is the lyrics right after the first kick, but it might be because of some other background vocals or something? Either way, after that when it goes "OoOoOoo" and then drops is really sweet!

I've still gotta fine-tune the vocals and such, but do you mean the vocal note progression with the music, or the timing? Also, thanks!

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
I have an M-Audio Axiom 49 that i cannot figure out how to use with software other than getting it to play some notes. I was under the impression when i bought the thing that it would work effortlessly with Live or whatever came with it, but I never got it to interface properly. Never got a knob to do what i wanted or even have a pad take a drum set. Is there an easy answer to this or am i good selling it cause i am retarded or something?

MixMasterMalaria
Jul 26, 2007

signalnoise posted:

I have an M-Audio Axiom 49 that i cannot figure out how to use with software other than getting it to play some notes. I was under the impression when i bought the thing that it would work effortlessly with Live or whatever came with it, but I never got it to interface properly. Never got a knob to do what i wanted or even have a pad take a drum set. Is there an easy answer to this or am i good selling it cause i am retarded or something?

What happens when you try to midi map the controls? Also maybe you could post your settings from the midi/sync tab of Live's preferences?

h_double
Jul 27, 2001
Go to the MIDI/sync tab of Live's preferences, make sure "Track" and "Remote" buttons are turned on for the Axiom.

Claes Oldenburger
Apr 23, 2010

Metal magician!
:black101:

Beef Log Boy posted:

I've still gotta fine-tune the vocals and such, but do you mean the vocal note progression with the music, or the timing? Also, thanks!

Definitely not the timing, more kind of fuzzy at first, it only lasts a second or so and from listening to it more it does sound like some other vocals or something?

MixMasterMalaria
Jul 26, 2007
I hope cross promotion is OKAY (please lmk so I can edit this post if it's not). I'm selling a new copy of Native Instruments' Kontakt 5 in SA mart. I got it during the holiday sale but decided to save up for Komplete or seek an alternative sampler.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3453750

WAFFLEHOUND
Apr 26, 2007
How in God's name can I make drums really kick hard, I keep getting just a kind of sound that sounds like a drum with no feeling behind it. :(

MixMasterMalaria
Jul 26, 2007

WAFFLEHOUND posted:

How in God's name can I make drums really kick hard, I keep getting just a kind of sound that sounds like a drum with no feeling behind it. :(

Some ideas: layer the kicks, play with the EQ (put on a spectrum analyzer and boost/cut until it's got the punch you want), and gel them together with something like the camel crusher plugin. You probably want the main part of your kick to hit around 80-100hz so maybe also try to use a low pass filter to remove the sound below that range to make room for the sub bass.

Besides that you can try to sidechain compress your other sounds a little so they're not competing with the kick.

Vector 7
Sep 29, 2010

WAFFLEHOUND posted:

How in God's name can I make drums really kick hard, I keep getting just a kind of sound that sounds like a drum with no feeling behind it. :(
I get great results with layering my drum samples. Using a compressor to shape the sound is also a commonly used technique that works quite well. Frankly, there's a bunch of ways to get your drums to be "louder" or "harder", and it really depends on what kind of music you're making.

Layering, resampling, compression, limiting, distortion, EQing...

the Gaffe
Jul 4, 2011

you gotta believe dawg

WAFFLEHOUND posted:

How in God's name can I make drums really kick hard, I keep getting just a kind of sound that sounds like a drum with no feeling behind it. :(
Learn how a compressor truly works, every parameter.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

the Gaffe posted:

Learn how a compressor truly works, every parameter.

I'd go as far to say to not even bother making electronic music until after reading up on compressors, they're that important.

breaks
May 12, 2001

Put your raw material together by layering (or not) some combination of synth drums and samples and EQing them.

Run it through a saturator and/or limiter to turn it into as much of a solid block of sound as you wish.

EQ out any objectionable stuff the saturation/limiting brought out, some ringing frequency you don't want is pretty common. I usually put the EQ before the saturation/limiting but sometimes it's better after, or both.

Use some combination of compressor, transient designer, and/or gate to adjust the amp envelope of the sound if need be.

Tweak everything up and down the chain until it sounds like you want.

Mix it loud and make sure your kick and bass aren't conflicting with each other or you will ruin all the work you just did.

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003
And check how you're doing by comparing waveforms with drums that do sound punchy :)

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

h_double posted:

Go to the MIDI/sync tab of Live's preferences, make sure "Track" and "Remote" buttons are turned on for the Axiom.

They are

MixMasterMalaria posted:

What happens when you try to midi map the controls? Also maybe you could post your settings from the midi/sync tab of Live's preferences?

Nothing happens when I try to midi map poo poo. I think the problem might be this INPUT box but it won't let me actually select anything. I remember being able to at least make a sound in a previous install but right now I can't even get the poo poo to connect. I checked the audio tab and the only thing it is letting me select for input is my headset.

MixMasterMalaria
Jul 26, 2007

signalnoise posted:

They are


Nothing happens when I try to midi map poo poo. I think the problem might be this INPUT box but it won't let me actually select anything. I remember being able to at least make a sound in a previous install but right now I can't even get the poo poo to connect. I checked the audio tab and the only thing it is letting me select for input is my headset.



Did you try pressing the DUMP button to send the settings to the Axiom?

colonp
Apr 21, 2007
Hi!
...

colonp fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Mar 8, 2014

Beef Log Boy
Jul 6, 2004

Cut the Cheeeeese Log and I'm a happy fellow!
Can someone tell me how this synth is made that hits on each four of this drop? I've heard it a lot before and really dig the sound of it. Starts at around :30 and the synth I'm referring to is first at :35.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nn4P3ogsCQ

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

MixMasterMalaria posted:

Did you try pressing the DUMP button to send the settings to the Axiom?

Yes

colonp posted:

It should be listed under "MIDI ports". To me, it seems like a problem outside of Live (USB port, cable, driver or Axiom itself).

I've tried multiple cables and ports, and I've updated the driver, I would hope it isn't a broken product, poo poo is expensive


update: I found the instructions on doing a factory reset for the Axiom, and now it works. Now to figure Live out.

signalnoise fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Dec 8, 2011

MixMasterMalaria
Jul 26, 2007
Do you have another machine you could test it on (just install a demo of live on a laptop or work machine)?

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=151795 this page says that people are having trouble using the latest driver with the 2nd gen Axiom, maybe you could hunt down the old driver and see if it works.

MixMasterMalaria fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Dec 8, 2011

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
Dubspot has a live streaming Ableton workshop this Saturday.

http://blog.dubspot.com/ableton-live-vjs-live-streaming-workshops-party-1210-nalepa-benton-c-bainbridge-v-owen-bush-and-david-lublin/

Vector 7
Sep 29, 2010

Beef Log Boy posted:

Can someone tell me how this synth is made that hits on each four of this drop? I've heard it a lot before and really dig the sound of it. Starts at around :30 and the synth I'm referring to is first at :35.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nn4P3ogsCQ
I'm not completely sure what sound you're talking about. There's a lot going on there.

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003
Abbey Road Drums sounds really good! Obviously not for Tech House or what have you but for other genres really quite good... Shame the full kit uses 2.58gb of RAM, had to downgrade to Lite because Live kept crashing :)

Anway here's something I started with it:

http://kingrook.com/wayfinder-heavyholz-preview.mp3


Synthpop I guess? Kinda like Röyksopp..

Beef Log Boy
Jul 6, 2004

Cut the Cheeeeese Log and I'm a happy fellow!

Vector 7 posted:

I'm not completely sure what sound you're talking about. There's a lot going on there.

Sorry, it was hard for me to verbally pinpoint it. The very last sound at the end of the first bar that's held for the last beat. You hear it cut in a little bit before that but that's where it's the most prominent. Hopefully that made a slight amount of sense.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

If it's the sound I'm thinking of, maybe a couple of detuned saws with a noise oscillator, with a bit of LP filter cutoff increase over the duration of the note?

Gibberish
Sep 17, 2002

by R. Guyovich
After seeing this: http://soundcloud.com/freakybass/major-lazer-vs-daft-punk

I made this in 20 minutes as a joke: http://soundcloud.com/rmnc/rmnc-one-more-time-vs-keep

I don't know why people would actually give that first dude props. gently caress that guy. FREE DOWNLOAD

Art Floyd
May 14, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Hey, since this is a thread about making music on a computer I thought I might post my latest song that I'm happy about. (I only compare the music I make to songs I've made in the past, hoping to gradually improve until i reach a professional level. for now I only use other people's music as inspiration or as food for thought)

Now, obviously my music falls into the "my cat sat on my gear and this is what happened" category, and I have a problem with structure. (Often I just start of with some synth sounds or a drum beat and see what happens if I just build on it and follow my ear) but since making this track I've been thinking a lot about sstructure, so I think my next piece of work will be more structured and personal. (basing the song more on a concrete feeling from within and the sounds coming from my head, with build up and structure etc, maybe using more traditional instruments, yet still playing around as the track develops with synths or whatever fits)

http://soundcloud.com/shapehead/eskimo-fight

but what this track lacks in structure it makes up in showing off where I'm at when it comes to mixing (I haven't gotten to producing my mixed tracks yet, getting there. Gonna be lurking and talking to my sequencer-wizard friends that does this poo poo for a living, but before that I gotta)

After reading the OP I understand some more concepts about mixing and I recognize a lot of faults in the track, but I think it can be healthy for my development anyway if some of you wizard listen to it and tell me how to improve my mixing.

But do as you like, just posting. :)

(although I kind of like a lot of parts of my (and dislike others) and feel that it is better than a lot of my previous work, it's just a one night project so I can take a punch of critisism. my focus is always on the future and where to go next)

Art Floyd fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Dec 9, 2011

Beef Log Boy
Jul 6, 2004

Cut the Cheeeeese Log and I'm a happy fellow!

Gibberish posted:

After seeing this: http://soundcloud.com/freakybass/major-lazer-vs-daft-punk

I made this in 20 minutes as a joke: http://soundcloud.com/rmnc/rmnc-one-more-time-vs-keep

I don't know why people would actually give that first dude props. gently caress that guy. FREE DOWNLOAD

I was curious about that on my dashboard. I knew there was some agenda behind it. I think I've said this to you before, but I really, really like your stuff dude.

Tokit
Dec 16, 2004

I was doing the composing.

Gibberish posted:

After seeing this: http://soundcloud.com/freakybass/major-lazer-vs-daft-punk

I made this in 20 minutes as a joke: http://soundcloud.com/rmnc/rmnc-one-more-time-vs-keep

I don't know why people would actually give that first dude props. gently caress that guy. FREE DOWNLOAD

How the gently caress does the first one get 1600+ listens? The only mash up part of it is when pon de floor and aerodynamic clashes for a couple of bars, the rest of the song is just the orginal song playing and he has a buy track option? :psyduck:

I make mashups and dont get this many listens this fast, maybe I should just start making lovely mashups and charge people for it.

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Quincy Smallvoice
Mar 18, 2006

Bitches leave
You dont actually buy it, and he cant actually sell it. also blogs? who knows

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