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Chocolate America posted:So there's a small invitational tournament going on tonight. Bracket and player info http://challonge.com/umvc3showmatchny
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Chocolate America posted:OK then what is the ~official~ definition of "lame"? Because I think that term should go. MAXIMUM WESKER
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Dec 11, 2011 01:47
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Posting again for new page: http://www.twitch.tv/srklive Going on right now!
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Dec 11, 2011 02:21
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Chocolate America posted:So there's a small invitational tournament going on tonight. Who's the other commentator, because god drat him and Yipes are an award-winning team.
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Dec 11, 2011 02:45
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Chris Matrix.
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drat that was short. ChrisG is having a pretty good run it seems.
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Dec 11, 2011 03:47
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I don't think CJ's Magneto did a single drat thing in that whole set, it was like he was only playing 2 characters and he still did well. Dude has the most impressive/unorthodox Dorm I've seen.
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Dec 11, 2011 03:51
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Seizure Robot posted:I don't think CJ's Magneto did a single drat thing in that whole set, it was like he was only playing 2 characters and he still did well. Dude has the most impressive/unorthodox Dorm I've seen.
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Dec 11, 2011 04:26
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Was there a WNF this past week and if so is there an archive up anywhere?
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Dec 11, 2011 04:37
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Chocolate America posted:Was there a WNF this past week and if so is there an archive up anywhere?
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Dec 11, 2011 05:00
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iPodschun posted:https://www.twitch.tv/leveluplive Videos tab under the player. It was 2v2 this week. Thanks!
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Dec 11, 2011 05:07
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Chocolate America posted:Thanks! Sweet jesus but Steve is amazing. Like half of everything he said was pure gold, and the other half embarrassed UltraDavid so much it made me laugh anyway.
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Dec 11, 2011 06:42
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I've come to the conclusion that I've been relying too much on Wesker as a crutch in this game and my game has not really improved a whole lot over this year as a result. This is the first game I've tried to play competitively; being summarily destroyed at a local tournament this weekend has reassured me of this, so I've decided to go cold turkey off Wesker for awhile and experiment with new teams to improve my fundamentals. Right now I'm looking at a zoning team based on MODOK in the second slot and Dormammu in as anchor. At the risk of the answer being "pick Doom", what would a good point character for this team be? Basically I want to zone the opponent out until the end of time and if you could point out (hurr) a point man who would have good synergy with these two I'd appreciate it. 
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FauxCyclops posted:I've come to the conclusion that I've been relying too much on Wesker as a crutch in this game and my game has not really improved a whole lot over this year as a result. This is the first game I've tried to play competitively; being summarily destroyed at a local tournament this weekend has reassured me of this, so I've decided to go cold turkey off Wesker for awhile and experiment with new teams to improve my fundamentals. You pretty much can't go wrong using Hawkeye on a keepaway team. Or any team.
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Dec 11, 2011 12:09
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I was strongly considering Chris, is this A Bad Idea?
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Dec 11, 2011 12:16
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FauxCyclops posted:I've come to the conclusion that I've been relying too much on Wesker as a crutch in this game and my game has not really improved a whole lot over this year as a result. This is the first game I've tried to play competitively; being summarily destroyed at a local tournament this weekend has reassured me of this, so I've decided to go cold turkey off Wesker for awhile and experiment with new teams to improve my fundamentals. The reason Doom is so great for zoning teams is that Hidden Missiles shuts down full-screen super-jumpers. A surprising number of zoning characters can't control the top corners of the screen, so guys like Wesker or Chris can just super-jump, fire downwards and mess you up. Dormammu doesn't have that problem because Purification H owns, so he makes a great anchor. I'd definitely put MODOK on point and have Doom behind him. e: alternatively, Deadpool with his Trigger-Happy assist shuts down jumpers as well. quote:I was strongly considering Chris, is this A Bad Idea? Nope, Chris is good. He has the same problem that the above team has, though, compounded by the fact that he has no anti-air whatsoever. If you're going to roll with Chris, you'll need an assist behind him. Vengarr fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Dec 11, 2011 |
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Vengarr posted:Nope, Chris is good. He has the same problem that the above team has, though, compounded by the fact that he has no anti-air whatsoever. If you're going to roll with Chris, you'll need an assist behind him. Isn't his flamethrower decent anti-air? Or did they change that?
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Chris G is on this week's Wakeup SRK podcast, if anyone else is interested in listening http://shoryuken.com/2011/12/08/wakeup-shoryuken-e081-chris-g-will-smash-your-face-in/ Vengarr posted:The reason Doom is so great for zoning teams is that Hidden Missiles shuts down full-screen super-jumpers. A surprising number of zoning characters can't control the top corners of the screen, so guys like Wesker or Chris can just super-jump, fire downwards and mess you up. Dormammu doesn't have that problem because Purification H owns, so he makes a great anchor. I'd definitely put MODOK on point and have Doom behind him.
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Dec 11, 2011 17:43
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Glass Eater posted:So last night I stumbled across this dude named Bum who was running Haggar/Hulk/Chris. He was murdering everybody. 3-0'd Noel Brown, he actually got in on Dieminion with Haggar of all people. I just want to say that every single Bum match with this team was great. It may have been half procrastination, but watched easily an hour plus and loved it all. I highly recommend it. I've been running: Deadpool/Frank (cart)/Doom (missiles) or Deadpool/Haggar (lariat)/Doom (beam) and just learning, but having fun.
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Dec 11, 2011 17:59
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Odd question, but are the twitch.tv archives not working for anyone else? THey'll load the video... then nothing. Hitting play doesn't actually start the video.
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Dec 11, 2011 18:17
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legoman727 posted:Odd question, but are the twitch.tv archives not working for anyone else? THey'll load the video... then nothing. Hitting play doesn't actually start the video.
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Dec 11, 2011 18:29
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legoman727 posted:Odd question, but are the twitch.tv archives not working for anyone else? THey'll load the video... then nothing. Hitting play doesn't actually start the video. The videos never start playing automatically for me either, but they start working if I skip ahead a little.
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I finally got some time to watch those Bum fights (Bumfights?) and holy poo poo is that a godlike Haggar. Hey Wesker players, what do you do against Nemesis other than gun zone (if anything)? As good as Wesker's rushdown is it's hard to compete with that armor and range. Noramlly what I do is call Rapid Slash assist and once in a while try to catch his off guard when he's jumping with Vajra assist, which owns when it hits because I get a free OTG combo. Otherwise I find that my options are pretty limited. Any advice?
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Seizure Robot posted:As a side note, if you're unaware, GR can backdash insanely fast by mashing back + MH or LH. It does something goofy, I think starting and canceling Spire over and over, and is great for putting distance between you and your opponent. If they block your Spire you can cover a good amount of ground before they can even do anything again. Wow that backdash trick is so good. I can play Ghost Rider and not get bodied now. Any tips on what to do after you hit people with Spire? Since it doesn't cancel to anything I've been throwing out H H and hoping for a frametrap or to hit someone out of a wakeup attack. Spire is a command normal so you can call assists during it, would the right assist allow it to be comboed?
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Dren posted:Wow that backdash trick is so good. I can play Ghost Rider and not get bodied now. Any tips on what to do after you hit people with Spire? Since it doesn't cancel to anything I've been throwing out H H and hoping for a frametrap or to hit someone out of a wakeup attack. Spire is a command normal so you can call assists during it, would the right assist allow it to be comboed? You'de likely have to call the assist before you did spire in order to get that stuff to hit. You're likely best off either getting space, doing spire again, throwing out a wall bounce special to force the enemy to block and get chipped, or going for some sort of assist aided mixup then trying to combo off of spire.
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I just watched the WNF archive last night and I have to say, I'm kind of surprised it took Combofiend as long as it did to drop Nemesis.
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Anyone have any tips for someone who's just starting marvel having come from super? I bought the guide and it's pretty good but the BnB's in it seem pretty intense. Should I be learning some simpler combos first? I was watching some stream of some tournament matches and it seems like even the pros don't use the super long combos.
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Dec 11, 2011 22:58
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Here's another crazy Haggar at 51:00 (it's SprintGod, the dude that made that crazy Haggar/Arthur/Felcia video, he now switches between Arthur and Rocket for the matchup) http://www.twitch.tv/armshouse/b/302317899
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Partial Octopus posted:Anyone have any tips for someone who's just starting marvel having come from super? I bought the guide and it's pretty good but the BnB's in it seem pretty intense. Should I be learning some simpler combos first? I was watching some stream of some tournament matches and it seems like even the pros don't use the super long combos. BnBs aren't really that long or complicated most of the time. They're all pretty simple muscle memory and even some of the more "complex" combos like zero or dante are incredibly easy once you just practice them a bit. Just learn a midscreen combo and a corner combo for all three of your characters and you should be fine to have some fun. You can start progressively learning more things like extended combos, combos after air throws, etc. The marvel engine allows for a lot of creativity so for instance for zero practice (as a corner combo): s.l (hold), s.m, s.h, f.h, s, jump cancel, j.b, j.b, release buster, L lightning cut, land, s, jump cancel, j.m, j.m, j.h, j.s, land, super. But as you get better start trying things like: c.l, c.m, c.h, f.h, s.l (hold), s.m, s.h, f.h, s, jump cancel, j.m, j.m, j.h, j.s, land, jump, M Divekick, release buster, L lightning cut, land, s, jump, j.m, j.m, j.h, j.s, land, jump, M divekick, release buster, L lightning cut XX Level 3 Alternatively you can find a way to continue the combo after that last M divekick with some sort of assist and keep it going longer. E: legoman727 posted:Odd question, but are the twitch.tv archives not working for anyone else? THey'll load the video... then nothing. Hitting play doesn't actually start the video. This is because you have adblock or something similar that's preventing the loading/playing of the pre-stream ads. If you're watching archives just deal with having to watch one 10 second ad and then turn adblock back on whenever you watch an actual stream. HORSEPORN fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Dec 11, 2011 |
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Speaking of bnbs for Dante, anybody have some good ones for him? I've practiced the ones in the Brady guide but that's about it. And any tips for Stinger->BC->Teleport? I can't seem to get it consistently.
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To bold cancel teleport try this: Down+LS, Down+S e: or maybe do that backwards. I can't seem to remember.
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FSLink posted:Speaking of bnbs for Dante, anybody have some good ones for him? I've practiced the ones in the Brady guide but that's about it. And any tips for Stinger->BC->Teleport? I can't seem to get it consistently. I don't play Dante but I'm pretty sure he's unique in that there's really no "set" bnb and you can pretty much just do whatever the gently caress you can think of. Kind of like how some vergils will go for 2x round trips in corners and other will use his fireballs for damage instead, etc.
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I've been working with Ghost Rider/Nemesis/Taskmaster since day negative one of Ultimate (trying to get myself off of a Phoenix team), and am realizing that this team has some serious offensive gaps against Wesker, Doom, Trish, and to a lesser extent Dormammu. Superjump (gun, photon shot, trish airplay, etc) is something I just don't have a counter for on this particular team and I'm looking to offload Ghost Rider, move Nemesis to point, and find someone who plays those matchups better to be my new second, preferably who also has a good screen control assist for Nemesis's sake. Hilariously Wesker does not help.
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FSLink posted:Speaking of bnbs for Dante, anybody have some good ones for him? I've practiced the ones in the Brady guide but that's about it. And any tips for Stinger->BC->Teleport? I can't seem to get it consistently. f+H, instant down+attack+S, then do down+S very very slightly after the stinger connects. Otherwise you'll teleport too early and will end up too high or too far. The basic Dante BNB is (in the corner): LMH f+H BC Volcano, j.H xx air play, j.H (land) H xx Wild Stomp xx Prop Shredder, super jump, Hammer, (land) Wild Stomp xx Stinger xx Bold Move into Hammer, (land) Volcano xx Beehive, Jet Stream xx Fireworks xx Super. Midscreen, you want to do a SJC teleport after the Prop Shredder and a BC teleport after the Wild Stomp xx Stinger part. You also might need to modify the beginning part to combo into Charge Shot xx Prop Shredder instead of Wild Stomp xx Prop Shredder depending on the character. You can use your assists to extend this combo accordingly (ex. after a Hammer, call Wolverine Tornado Claw and do Volcano, j.S).
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Fuchi posted:I've been working with Ghost Rider/Nemesis/Taskmaster since day negative one of Ultimate (trying to get myself off of a Phoenix team), and am realizing that this team has some serious offensive gaps against Wesker, Doom, Trish, and to a lesser extent Dormammu. Superjump (gun, photon shot, trish airplay, etc) is something I just don't have a counter for on this particular team and I'm looking to offload Ghost Rider, move Nemesis to point, and find someone who plays those matchups better to be my new second, preferably who also has a good screen control assist for Nemesis's sake. Pretty sure the correct answer is Doom. It's always Doom.
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Fuchi posted:I've been working with Ghost Rider/Nemesis/Taskmaster since day negative one of Ultimate (trying to get myself off of a Phoenix team), and am realizing that this team has some serious offensive gaps against Wesker, Doom, Trish, and to a lesser extent Dormammu. Superjump (gun, photon shot, trish airplay, etc) is something I just don't have a counter for on this particular team and I'm looking to offload Ghost Rider, move Nemesis to point, and find someone who plays those matchups better to be my new second, preferably who also has a good screen control assist for Nemesis's sake. Strider assist helps a lot against characters who like to gently caress around in the air a lot.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Here's another crazy Haggar at 51:00 (it's SprintGod, the dude that made that crazy Haggar/Arthur/Felcia video, he now switches between Arthur and Rocket for the matchup) Going to have to watch this tomorrow, but yeah sprint's haggar is ace. His haggar can pretty much touch of death you from any situation.
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Teamsp00ky will have Barfights starting up momentarily.
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PunkBoy posted:Isn't his flamethrower decent anti-air? Or did they change that? It was never good anti-air. It has some situational uses in that department but that's the problem, all Chris's anti-airs (flamethrower, landmine, stand S, air throw, j.buttons into combo, ground shotgun) are situational. The bright side is he tends to get great damage when they work.
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duffath posted:Going to have to watch this tomorrow, but yeah sprint's haggar is ace. His haggar can pretty much touch of death you from any situation. Hilariously he can land like 700K off an air pipe trade
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