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Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!
I think we all know who Mike Ross is

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Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge
Naw, Mike Ross is Mick Foley. Everybody loves him, but all he does is get the living poo poo beat out of him.

Fargin Icehole
Feb 19, 2011

Pet me.
Mega Man is the jobber.

Does that mean that Capcom is Vince McMahon?

bouncyman
Oct 27, 2009

apophenium posted:

Oh man Bar Fights has been so loving hype. I think Combofiend vs. Marn is coming up next. And then Jago vs. Mike "Mike Ross" Ross. UMvC3 is quickly becoming WWE with all the crazy rivalries and stuff.

Can someone please explain the rivalry between Ross and Jago please?

ImperialGuard
Jan 10, 2010

bouncyman posted:

Can someone please explain the rivalry between Ross and Jago please?
Jago was on Cross Counter Live, basically called Mike free, made a video that basically called out Mike and Combo.

And then here we are today.

Mr. Fun
Sep 22, 2006

ABSOLUTE KINOGRAPHY
Before that Mike & Combo were listing frauds on CC and Jago was the first name they mentioned.

Platypus Farm
Jul 12, 2003

Francis is my name, and breeding is my game. All bow before the fertile smut-god!

bouncyman posted:

Can someone please explain the rivalry between Ross and Jago please?

I always took it as a joke. Mike has been talking about how Jago is king fraud for quite some time on Ultimate adventures and stuff like that. I don't think either of them (MR or Combo) are really down on the guy, they just like poking fun at him. That said, it was pretty funny when Jago ventilated Mike in their matches.

40 OZ
May 16, 2003

bouncyman posted:

Can someone please explain the rivalry between Ross and Jago please?

FC Jago got this girl (Starslay3r) pregnant that Mike Ross used to be engaged to.

My cousin is a cameraman on wednesday night fights he told me the scoop.

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug
Blue Dante + Blue Vergil is so annoying, I can never tell if I'm hitting the point or the assist.

I like Mike a lot more than Jago but Mike had no shot. Did Jago play Trish? If he dropped her he'd probably actually be good.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



Any word on when this stream is going to get uploaded?

Veev
Oct 21, 2010

K is for kid.
A guy or gal just like you.
Dont be in such a hurry to grow up, since there's nothin' a kid can't do.

Dren posted:

Blue Dante + Blue Vergil is so annoying, I can never tell if I'm hitting the point or the assist.

I like Mike a lot more than Jago but Mike had no shot. Did Jago play Trish? If he dropped her he'd probably actually be good.

Trish was winning him matches, no one knew how to deal with her.

Trykt
Jul 30, 2000

Still training..

FauxCyclops posted:

Chris/MODOK/Dorm seems to be shaping up nicely. :) However, as I suspected, I'm having a little trouble stuffing teleporters with Chris; suggestions?

The guide has a tidbit about Chris's prone position causing him to stand up in an invincible animation when the opponent gets behind him. Apparently you can use this to punish teleporters by getting up into an immediate throw (which Chris gets a full combo from).

Of course this depends on how well they've covered their teleport with assists/other projectiles.

The above suggestion to anticipate the teleport and cover your position with your own assist sounds like a better general option though. IMO you should consider Sentinel for any team that includes Chris since drones seems to help his gameplan a LOT, and would also work great for the teleport counter-tactic since it stays out sooooo long. Besides which Sentinel is a pretty strong character on his own and has good DHC synergy with Chris!

Chacmool
Apr 12, 2007

Liku posted:

Any word on when this stream is going to get uploaded?

Supposedly the stream was archived on Spooky's page but was later taken down. If you look at the comments for the event at EventHubs.com you will see the links people have posted to the alternatives.

fix yr hearts
Feb 9, 2011

things you cannot touch:
my heart
I imagine Cross Counter is probably making a DVD of it.

duffath
May 9, 2007

My name is Legion for we are many.

Trykt posted:

The above suggestion to anticipate the teleport and cover your position with your own assist sounds like a better general option though.

I've been finding something along these lines with teleporters. My team tends to get screwed by teleporters so I treat a teleport as a mixup I can anticipate and block/punish/counter/avoid.

Fellblade
Apr 28, 2009

Chacmool posted:

Supposedly the stream was archived on Spooky's page but was later taken down. If you look at the comments for the event at EventHubs.com you will see the links people have posted to the alternatives.

It is still there if you get the links to it from somewhere/find it, I dunno whether it's something I should post so I'll err on the side of caution, it should be in the teamspooky chat channel somewhere last time I looked.

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

Chacmool posted:

Supposedly the stream was archived on Spooky's page but was later taken down. If you look at the comments for the event at EventHubs.com you will see the links people have posted to the alternatives.

The broadcasters who stream something then take down archives, process all the footage and upload to youtube/release DVDs/whatever are really loving up. Generally, it takes spooky a week or more to get youtube uploads available. With Cross Counter who knows how long it'll take. CC sometimes releases interviews done at majors 2 weeks or more after the fact. CC puts videos of Gootecks and Mike Ross playing day 1 UMvC3 up a month after the game comes out. A week is forever in Internet time, a month is a lifetime. Anything less than a day is too long. By the time a week has passed I've seen the results already, have watched other streams and heard what happened, or read an interview somewhere else. Point being, by the time they turn it around I don't really care anymore because I'm watching some other stream that happened more recently.

It is more important for media to be available right now than it is to edit it and tart it up.

/rant

That said, I will still watch barfights since the links are available.

usedpizza
Jan 1, 2009

Give it up for the champ
Patch dated for 12/19, including Heroes and Heralds.

Also the Vita version has replays. Now we're just waiting for the Vita-exclusive Mega Man character.

HORSEPORN
Oct 7, 2008

Dren posted:

The broadcasters who stream something then take down archives, process all the footage and upload to youtube/release DVDs/whatever are really loving up. Generally, it takes spooky a week or more to get youtube uploads available. With Cross Counter who knows how long it'll take. CC sometimes releases interviews done at majors 2 weeks or more after the fact. CC puts videos of Gootecks and Mike Ross playing day 1 UMvC3 up a month after the game comes out. A week is forever in Internet time, a month is a lifetime. Anything less than a day is too long. By the time a week has passed I've seen the results already, have watched other streams and heard what happened, or read an interview somewhere else. Point being, by the time they turn it around I don't really care anymore because I'm watching some other stream that happened more recently.

It is more important for media to be available right now than it is to edit it and tart it up.

/rant

That said, I will still watch barfights since the links are available.
It's actually more important to Gootecks/M. Ross/Spooky that they get paid though so I don't think they care about leaving archives up.

TERRIBLE SHITLORD
Oct 20, 2005


MY NIGGA HAVE
YOU TRIED LSD

Dren posted:

Did Jago play Trish? If he dropped her he'd probably actually be good.

You mean his best character? Yeah, that would work out.

Anybody else having trouble with Frank's snapshot OTG at the end of extended combos? Im finding that the results of identical button presses vary between him trying to launch the guy, not doing anything at all or picking the guy up perfectly but then the tools of survival super doesnt come out. Is there a trick to timing your inputs or is Frank just wierd like that?

Chacmool
Apr 12, 2007

Dren posted:

The broadcasters who stream something then take down archives, process all the footage and upload to youtube/release DVDs/whatever are really loving up. Generally, it takes spooky a week or more to get youtube uploads available. With Cross Counter who knows how long it'll take. CC sometimes releases interviews done at majors 2 weeks or more after the fact. CC puts videos of Gootecks and Mike Ross playing day 1 UMvC3 up a month after the game comes out. A week is forever in Internet time, a month is a lifetime. Anything less than a day is too long. By the time a week has passed I've seen the results already, have watched other streams and heard what happened, or read an interview somewhere else. Point being, by the time they turn it around I don't really care anymore because I'm watching some other stream that happened more recently.

It is more important for media to be available right now than it is to edit it and tart it up.

/rant

That said, I will still watch barfights since the links are available.

I agree. I really don't know why they wanted it taken down. I would figure they'd continue down the path they used for Canada Cup and Season's Beatings, releasing the extra stuff for a fee while leaving the streamed stuff archived for all to see.

HORSEPORN
Oct 7, 2008

BORK! BORK! posted:

You mean his best character? Yeah, that would work out.

Anybody else having trouble with Frank's snapshot OTG at the end of extended combos? Im finding that the results of identical button presses vary between him trying to launch the guy, not doing anything at all or picking the guy up perfectly but then the tools of survival super doesnt come out. Is there a trick to timing your inputs or is Frank just wierd like that?

This is something you'll get with time. For the first two weeks even the best players would occasionally drop frank Picture XX super inputs. Just keep practicing and it will come. Seems like a relatively odd timing is all.

TERRIBLE SHITLORD
Oct 20, 2005


MY NIGGA HAVE
YOU TRIED LSD

HORSEPORN posted:

This is something you'll get with time. For the first two weeks even the best players would occasionally drop frank Picture XX super inputs. Just keep practicing and it will come. Seems like a relatively odd timing is all.

Cheers buddy, I was hoping that would be the case because I really dont want to have to drop him. Il just keep plugging at it til it clicks, do you happen to know if its better to input everything as soon as you land or wait a few frames til their body becomes completely rested?

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

HORSEPORN posted:

It's actually more important to Gootecks/M. Ross/Spooky that they get paid though so I don't think they care about leaving archives up.

If it's about the money then I wouldn't mind paying a couple bucks for archive access. Sure beats waiting till they get their poo poo together and packaging something that I will not buy or watch. In a perfect world all the broadcasters would have nice, categorized archives on a single website that are available as soon as the broadcast ends. A website that is not twitch.tv because twitch.tv makes it miserable to find archived material and watch it, even when you follow the broadcasters.

HORSEPORN
Oct 7, 2008

BORK! BORK! posted:

Cheers buddy, I was hoping that would be the case because I really dont want to have to drop him. Il just keep plugging at it til it clicks, do you happen to know if its better to input everything as soon as you land or wait a few frames til their body becomes completely rested?

I'm not sure. Frank and firebrand are the only two new characters I haven't messed with much. My friend who mains him seems to think it's the latter though.

Honestly just go into training and focus on pressing that input with slightly different timing every time. Not only does it keep training the BnB into muscle memory but it's about the only way you'll get proper timing. Once you find that sweet spot make sure to give it a few more reps to make sure it's engrained in your brain.

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

Are there any good setups for Nova and Frank? Also, how do you make Ryu's ninja mode safe in combos?

HORSEPORN
Oct 7, 2008
The only setup you really need for nova/frank (on an incoming character at least) is: call frank, gravimetric blast C (shield), SJC cancel the Grav blast into a Javelin (for some reason you can sjc "tiger knee" this like you can viper's seismos) and then go for a hi/low mixup.

If frank isn't around just call a shield than use positioning and dashes while they come in for your setup.

E: the timing on calling frank is wrong but you basically want to call him as a meaty.

As for setups specifically using the two characters during the normal course of a match? I have a friend that plays those two on his main team and I don't ever really see him pull out any gimmicks that specifically require those two. He has lots of Air grab super resets for frank and lots of even sillier resets for nova but resets are generally pretty easy to figure out.

The easiest ones are nova ending a combo with ->C then resetting with s.A for a mixup of your choice and frank can opt to not super after taking a picture and do his air grab reset instead which is a pretty fun gimmick you can use maybe once. If I can think of anything else he uses I'll post it up.

HORSEPORN fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Dec 12, 2011

Padical
Nov 29, 2004

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Are there any good setups for Nova and Frank? Also, how do you make Ryu's ninja mode safe in combos?

I hope this isn't old information, but you can get Frank to level 4 really easily with this team. Put Nova on point and finish your Nova combo in the air with his dp+AA, but DHC before he says "Nova Force" into Frank's tools of survival. If you do it properly, Nova will shout "Power of the Frank!" Frank will whiff, but the opponent will be in hard knockdown and you get level 4 instantly with a snapshot, and if you have an extra level of super you can do another tools of survival. This works because the supernova super is a hard knockdown for the first half.

Chill Penguin
Jan 10, 2004

you know korky buchek?
Has anyone experimented with tigerknee'ing Taskmaster's Aim Master? I don't know if it's just me, but the timing seems really weird, resulting in him doing a full jump rather than a short hop.

great big cardboard tube
Sep 3, 2003


There are a few videos on youtube showing Nova combos that make it all the way to level 5 frank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUvxJo7CYUY I think this is corner only? I don't play Nova so I dunno but it's also pretty good damage for what it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQCSL6Bk87A One being done from midscreen.

Fereydun
May 9, 2008

Chill Penguin posted:

Has anyone experimented with tigerknee'ing Taskmaster's Aim Master? I don't know if it's just me, but the timing seems really weird, resulting in him doing a full jump rather than a short hop.

You will never get a short hop off a tiger knee'd aim of hawkeye because Taskmaster keeps his momentum from previous movement during all his actions other than mighty swing and his supers. Even if you tiger knee it perfectly he will just accelerate really quickly upwards when he fires the arrows.

HORSEPORN
Oct 7, 2008

Padical posted:

I hope this isn't old information, but you can get Frank to level 4 really easily with this team. Put Nova on point and finish your Nova combo in the air with his dp+AA, but DHC before he says "Nova Force" into Frank's tools of survival. If you do it properly, Nova will shout "Power of the Frank!" Frank will whiff, but the opponent will be in hard knockdown and you get level 4 instantly with a snapshot, and if you have an extra level of super you can do another tools of survival. This works because the supernova super is a hard knockdown for the first half.

This is also a really good way to start a nova Xfactor combo if you have to play him on anchor for some reason. Just XFC instead of DHC then OTG with forward C.

Chill Penguin
Jan 10, 2004

you know korky buchek?

Fereydun posted:

Even if you tiger knee it perfectly he will just accelerate really quickly upwards when he fires the arrows.

Yeah this is exactly what I've been able to achieve, which still seems like it could be useful.

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

Seizure Robot posted:

There are a few videos on youtube showing Nova combos that make it all the way to level 5 frank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUvxJo7CYUY I think this is corner only? I don't play Nova so I dunno but it's also pretty good damage for what it is.

The only part of that combo that is corner only is the L Nova Strike (move where he says human rocket punch). You can swap nova strike L for unfly H and do that combo anywhere on the screen.

Brosnan
Nov 13, 2004

Pwning the incels with my waifu fg character. Get trolled :twisted:
Lipstick Apathy
New info about Heroes and Heralds: http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston/blog/2011/12/12/heroes__heralds_week:_a_primer_for_ultimate_mvc3s_free_dlc

Cat Machine
Jun 18, 2008

I am HYPE AS gently caress for Heroes & Heralds

fix yr hearts
Feb 9, 2011

things you cannot touch:
my heart
It sounds like you can't play against other people offline?

Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!
The Daigo moment bit was hilarious.

PalmTreeFun
Apr 25, 2010

*toot*
X-factor burst sounds like the most insane bullshit. I love it.

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Dodgeball
Sep 24, 2003

Oh no! Dodgeball is really scary!
I'd be way down for some Super Smash Marvel. Can't wait!

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