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I think that episode was technically very impressive and probably relatively expensive, so it's not like I would ask for even more eye-candy. It gets the point across nicely. Also I forgot to mention this earlier, but excellent timing having it shown the day this article was uploaded.
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Trin Tragula posted:If Brazil was the 1984 for 1984, 15 Million Merits is the 1984 for, er, 2011. I'm pretty sure 1984 was the 1984 for 1984... (I do love Brazil, though)
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Dec 12, 2011 19:36
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HoldYourFire posted:I think that episode was technically very impressive and probably relatively expensive, so it's not like I would ask for even more eye-candy. It gets the point across nicely. I liked 15 Million Merits a lot more than The National Anthem, I guess I just have a thing for dystopian near futures. Also, is that bint in the article being serious or is it tongue in cheek? Please tell me it's tongue in cheek, I don't think I could take it if someone actually believes that poo poo.
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Dec 12, 2011 19:39
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Here's the trailer for the next episode of Black Mirror https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bFCqK81s7Y
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Dec 12, 2011 19:45
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thexerox123 posted:I'm pretty sure 1984 was the 1984 for 1984... 1984 was the 1984 for 1949. Clockwork Orange was the 1984 for 1962.
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Dec 12, 2011 19:59
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Flatscan posted:Advertisements don't work like that Given the financial and political clout of BSkyB, I care enough the continued prosperity of Channel 4 to sit though a few adverts.
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Dec 12, 2011 20:11
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what's the general feeling about in the inbetweeners here? I just watched a couple of episodes and the movie and It seems pretty hilarious. Seems the movie might get a sequel too. I loved seeing one of the ministers from the thick of it as one of the dads which only made me miss that show even more 
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Dec 12, 2011 20:15
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The Collector posted:what's the general feeling about in the inbetweeners here? I just watched a couple of episodes and the movie and It seems pretty hilarious. Seems the movie might get a sequel too. Watched the movie last night and it was pretty standard 'coming-of-age holiday comedy' - essentially a remake of Kevin & Perry Go Large for a new generation of teenagers, following more of less the exact same format (aside from there's no parents, and two more teenagers)
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Dec 12, 2011 20:30
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Akuma posted:So do you think it was a budgetary or creative reason to have only like four things to do in that world? Watch that one porn channel, watch Hot Shots (or ads for Hot Shots), watch fat people be degraded, or shoot virtual fatties. Unless you're on the bike, then you can also look at a rolling road. The Collector posted:what's the general feeling about in the inbetweeners here? I just watched a couple of episodes and the movie and It seems pretty hilarious. Seems the movie might get a sequel too.
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Dec 12, 2011 20:32
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Pablo Bluth posted:How do they work then? I assume that like every other advertising on the internet, C4 get paid a certain amount each time they interrupt 4oD to show a series of adverts. Ad-block stops the advertisers web-servers getting the request so 4oD don't get paid. The request still goes through, adblock just stops it loading. Also 4OD advertising doesn't work on a per-view basis, it works exactly the same as regular TV advertising, advertisers buy slots with prices based on projected viewing figures.
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I'm pretty sure in Firefox, Adblock stops the request ever going out. In Chrome it only hides adverts, the data is still loaded.
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Car Stranger posted:I like Inbetweeners a lot. I enjoyed the movie too, especially since it was nice to see a fat person not be entirely relegated into cliché/mockery territory. Surprising amount of cocks though. Bruno opened the floodgates. There's no going back now.
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Dec 12, 2011 21:02
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Anyone know who does the cover of 'Everybodys Gotta Learn Sometime' in the new Black Mirror trailer?
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Dec 12, 2011 21:22
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Mart posted:Anyone know who does the cover of 'Everybodys Gotta Learn Sometime' in the new Black Mirror trailer? Sounds like Glasvegas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsOheNVUxsM
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Dec 12, 2011 21:54
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So apparently This is England '88 starts tomorrow night. This crept up on me, a bit. The last 4 parter was pretty good and really built towards the end so im looking foward to it 
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Dec 12, 2011 23:05
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Flatscan posted:The request still goes through, adblock just stops it loading. Also 4OD advertising doesn't work on a per-view basis, it works exactly the same as regular TV advertising, advertisers buy slots with prices based on projected viewing figures. Are you sure about that? This is very definitely not how some of the other commercial broadcaster VoD advertising works. Tracking is also done on play start, not on the return of the ad XML - so a "view" would only be registered if the ad in question (and there are many in a break) actually started to play. Ad blocking is bad, don't do it.
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Dec 12, 2011 23:26
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Firing Cirrus posted:I loved the messed up logic that the punishment for a person getting fat was to take them away from the exercise bikes and if they got really fat then it appeared that they were force fed cakes on a gameshow. "When you get the cheap lardy gunk you end up having to pedal it off, then you want more sugar, then you're playing catch up and I... I've been there, it's a vicious... it's a vicious circle." It's debt, and the vilification and exploitation of the poor.
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Jollzwhin posted:Are you sure about that? This is very definitely not how some of the other commercial broadcaster VoD advertising works. Yup, details are in the T&Cs for ad sales. http://www.channel4sales.com/advertising/online/specs
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Flatscan posted:Yup, details are in the T&Cs for ad sales. http://www.channel4sales.com/advertising/online/specs I see in there the note that C4 can't guarantee impressions: quote:(c) the Corporation gives no guarantee as to the number of future page impressions on the Website and/or Other Media or the number of persons who will view the Advertisement. However: quote:5.3 If the page impressions actually delivered for a Campaign are less than those estimated to be delivered and paid for by a Buyer, the Corporation and the Buyer will enter into good faith negotiations to agree how to deal with any shortfall. The tracking is probably done both by the ad server itself and by the 3rd parties with the tracking pixels, but from my experience with another commercial broadcaster there's hell to pay if the stats don't tally up very closely. The pixels are only triggered after each ad, so there's no way 3rd party ad tracking would work unless you watched the ads.
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Dec 12, 2011 23:50
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Brown Moses posted:Here's the trailer for the next episode of Black Mirror Doesn't show much, but I really like that actor after seeing The Veteran. I read up on it and it's an interesting concept, don't know if it will be anywhere near as good as 15 Million Merits though.
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Dec 13, 2011 00:16
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When the ginger guy was updating his profile picture with the glass shard, all I could think of was "And everyone's doing the Stabby McHeadWound dance!!" Terrific episode, I now hate myself as much as Charlie hates himself, it seems.
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Dec 13, 2011 00:28
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15 million merits made me feel awful and also made incredibly worried about Brooker. I hope he doesn't hate himself half as much as that ending made out.
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Sargeant Biffalot posted:The "can't turn off the adverts" stuff was one of the most scarily plausible things I've seen in a dystopia. I can't remember which book had it (perhaps something by David Brin), but what's next is probably eye-tracking and subsidised devices/services based on mandatory ad consumption. You will watch 60 seconds of adverts per 24-hour use period before the device's other functions are enabled. Your eye focus and movement will be tracked, to ensure that you are actually watching the adverts. If you do not watch the adverts, we will continue to show them until you have satisfied the requirement. That, or subsidised televsions that'll replace a certain quota of on-screen sufficiently "flat" vertical surfaces in a given with adverts. You will enjoy adverts whether you're watching a dvd, gaming or just idling with the beeb on!
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Daius posted:15 million merits made me feel awful and also made incredibly worried about Brooker. I hope he doesn't hate himself half as much as that ending made out. He's married to Konnie Huq.
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Seriously though if I had an entertainment hub in front of me and I had to ride an exercise bike for money I would be a billionaire by now.
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Local Group Bus posted:Also the shard of glass is just a prop now it's a critique of capitalism and how effective it is in co-opting and subsequently commodifying anti-capitalism and it's critics Leyburn posted:Charlie Brooker is the Clarkson of the left. yeah this would work if Charlie Brooker says outrageously lefty stuff for viewing figures, I've not seen him calling for a global revolution and the destruction of the bourgeois or even some kind of tepid anarchy. Not that I'd mind that.
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Well gently caress. I couldn't sleep so watched 15 Million Merits at 2am this morning. Didn't really know what to expect as I had just glanced over the posts here, never watched any trailers and have never seen any of Brookers work before. The scene when Bing is going nuts and smashing himself into the wall with Abi doing Wraith Girls while singing her song had me     Is the rest of his work like this? Cause frankly I'm gonna need a couple of days. Well gently caress.
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Bioalchemist posted:Well gently caress. The good news is you can watch his best work, Screenwipe, Newswipe, and the one off special Gameswipe on Youtube, here's a example from the more depressing end of Newswipe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4 [edit] I forgot How TV Ruined Your Life as well, that's good too. You Have Been Watching is basically him trying to do a TV panel show, with mixed results, 10 O'Clock Live was a good Charlie Brooker and David Mitchell based show ruined by Jimmy Carr and Lauren Laverne, and he also did a good zombie satire called Dead Set, which is well worth watching. He also did a couple of series of his radio show, So Wrong It's Right, another panel quiz show which had decent guests and was much better than You Have Been Watching. Here's a more amusing clip so you know all his work isn't horribly depressing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lHxPl5ZJpg Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Dec 13, 2011 |
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Brown Moses posted:The good news is you can watch his best work, Screenwipe, Newswipe, and the one off special Gameswipe on Youtube, here's a example from the more depressing end of Newswipe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY5rB067518
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Don't forget Nathan Barley, the lovechild of Brooker and Chris Morris that successfully pointed at everything that was awful about trendy bullshit in the early 2000s. gwaaargh fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Dec 13, 2011 |
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Brown Moses posted:Here's a more amusing clip so you know all his work isn't horribly depressing: And before you ask, yes it was taken out of context and put onto youtube almost as soon as he made the comment.
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Kuno posted:Oh my God; I just finished watching 15 Million Credits. It was incredible. The guy playing the main character should get some sort of award for that speech, that was an incredible piece of acting.
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Heavy_D posted:But wasn't your enjoyment slightly ruined by the fact that the show instantly undermines it? The idea of the rebellion being packaged up and marketed to viewers extends beyond the reality of the show. You as a view of Black Mirror are being emotionally manipulated by the same speech packaged in a way you can consume happily. Not to say that it was the wrong decision to do so or made the show worse at all, it just made me instantly guilty for loving it...
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Heavy_D posted:But wasn't your enjoyment slightly ruined by the fact that the show instantly undermines it? The idea of the rebellion being packaged up and marketed to viewers extends beyond the reality of the show. You as a view of Black Mirror are being emotionally manipulated by the same speech packaged in a way you can consume happily. Not to say that it was the wrong decision to do so or made the show worse at all, it just made me instantly guilty for loving it... There was a moment when the viewer shared that real emotion though. It's how we proceed from that, the show was right in everyone probably did consume that feeling of anger then do nothing, but you could have walked out your home find an expensive car and set fire to it, or thown a brick at a policeman or something.
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Heavy_D posted:But wasn't your enjoyment slightly ruined by the fact that the show instantly undermines it? The idea of the rebellion being packaged up and marketed to viewers extends beyond the reality of the show. You as a view of Black Mirror are being emotionally manipulated by the same speech packaged in a way you can consume happily. Not to say that it was the wrong decision to do so or made the show worse at all, it just made me instantly guilty for loving it... Twas ever thus. It might have dented my enjoyment very slightly as the implication of the closing scene set in; but it increased my subsequent appreciation of the programme many more times. Highly unsettling, but absolutely the right note to hit.
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I would argue as well that I didn't consume that segment happily at all. I had a pretty intense feeling of dread and sadness. I never saw that performance as being at all triumphant. I doubt anyone watching who was familiar with Brooker's oeuvre was expecting that speech to be received positively. To me it was a performance of a breakdown, an intensely personal emotional moment rather than the rallying call of a rebellion. Regardless my emotions were being manipulated, however that is the nature of art. If art doesn't manipulate your emotions, positive or negative, it is probably a pretty poo poo bit of art.
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So you're the art critic in National Anthem stating that what happened was the purest form of art seen this decade then? 
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On the subject of Nathan Barley, I hope everyone has been watching Dalston Superstars. I realise it's not TV but it's so good, possibly as good as Made in Chelsea.
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Fun and games from the Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee meeting on the BBC 2010/11 Annual Report this morning; Dr Thérèse Coffey MP (Con. Suffolk Coastal) I really enjoyed watching the Frozen Planet series, Mark Thompson (BBC Director General) Good. Dr Thérèse Coffey MP Yet I was one of the people who did believe that the extraordinary coverage of the polar bears was genuine as opposed to being filmed elsewhere. I understand why the BBC may have chosen to do that, but will you be arranging for the commentary to be redone so people are clear that that was not being filmed out in the frozen planet but was being filmed in a German zoo? Mark Thompson No. Then Lord Patten jumps in and points out the only reason this is being covered is because the BBC themselves explained what they did on a video on their own website, and it's been available since the 7th of December.
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