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Dren posted:Blue Dante + Blue Vergil is so annoying, I can never tell if I'm hitting the point or the assist. Add Blue Phoenix Wright as your third team member to blend in with Blue Vergil, Team "Who Am I Hitting?"
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Seizure Robot posted:There are a few videos on youtube showing Nova combos that make it all the way to level 5 frank. I like these videos because he calls for the power of Frank!
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Welp, I've found my last team. And it seems super evil. Dr. strange (bolts of balthaak)/super skrull(orbital grude)/morrigan (dark harmonizer). Dr. strange bread and butter + morrigan assist is like 190% meter, over 200% if you lead into the combo off of a projectile. This is enough extra meter to read books like a professor, or to DHC into skrull, which does 950k damage btw. Skrull assist can help dr. strange make his buttons far safer to press. Super skrull gets a lot of really silly set ups off of dr. stranges bolt's of balthaak assist. If the enemy crouches it you can command grab them, if they block it you can move in for mixup (even a tick grab off of standing l!), if they jump it or chicken block it that's just another chance to grab them. Skrull does 750-850k damage depending on if you wanna spend one or two meters for his basic bread and butter combos, and likely around 650k off of a command or normal throw. Morrigan assist helps skrull make sure he's always got enough meter to spend to get some extra damage. And xf3 morrigan with some meter to spend is a fairly scary anchor, just based off of turning the game into bullet hell. I wasn't really concerned about how dr stranges and skrulls assists work with morrigan, but it turns out they both help her keep away game rather solidly.
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So goons I've got a question to ask, but first a little backstory. My team is Cap/Sent/Nova. I've been mainly OCV'ing with Cap or coming back with Nova, my Sentinel is always an assist/DHC, whenever he's on point I feel like he's dead weight. My current strategy with sentinel mostly consists of random j.S and c.M, with the occasional command grab. Watching Barfights last night really inspired me to change that, Knives' Sentinel play was probably the best I've seen (even better than Fanatic's). So today I spent a couple of hours actually learning his real BnB (fly, unfly, double jump) rather than just magic series, and I've got that down. However I've still got two things I'd like to improve on. Firstly my Sentinel seems extremely unwieldy in comparison, what I saw last night was some excellent space control using his aerial normals and flight cancelling. I'd like to know if there's any general rules I could go by to work towards emulating this. Secondly, and the main thing that inspired my post, the mixup on incoming characters where you fly into j.S is giving me a few problems. If they pushblock I can never seem to get close enough to them before they land to go for the air throw, what am I doing wrong? It just occured to me that it might be a flight cancel to hit the ground fast enough, but I'd like some confirmation from anybody that knows. If they just regular block, I've been dashing in for the command grab, which worked a few times until my friend/training dummy came in, blocked, then jumped causing the whiffed grab.
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Fellblade posted:Firstly my Sentinel seems extremely unwieldy in comparison, what I saw last night was some excellent space control using his aerial normals and flight cancelling. I'd like to know if there's any general rules I could go by to work towards emulating this. Controlling the air space is a matter of positioning and having a read on your opponent so you do it when it's safe or they're about to jump. As far as the inputs go it's simple. Fly, j.M, unfly, j.M on falling. After you hit do a double jump and follow up with another j.M a j.H if you're close enough, and a j.S. Not sure what you're doing wrong on fly into meaty j.S on incoming. I don't do that mixup very often. I do know that you can't unfly cancel the j.S to counter pushblock since doing j.S automatically makes you unfly. What I do on incoming is dash under (or don't dash under, mind games oooooooh) and go for s.M or c.M. If you time c.M right it's godlike. If they try to hit you out of your c.M (and you timed it right) the armor will be active and sent will win. If they don't hit buttons it's a low attack and you crossed up with the dash under, which means it's hard to block. s.M also has armor and stuffs attempts to press buttons. It's good when you're not sure you're in position for c.M. As far as normal fighting goes you never want to throw out c.M in response to someone who is on you. You should pushblock to create some space then do something like dash up s.M, fly j.M's, jump forward j.H j.S, or activate flight, fly into their face and drop a j.S. And remember to throw out some rocket punches when you're at the edges of rocket punch range because rocket punch is awesome and you'll catch people who press buttons or try to zone you. When you get people conditioned to think you're coming at them from the air or with s.M you throw out a c.M. On block you can cancel c.M into rocket punch (which is a frame trap) then combo into HSF. You can also flight cancel c.M and follow up with j.L j.S. Personally, I don't use sent's L and c.L enough and I'm not sure when the best times to throw them out are since they're sort of slow. Dren fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Dec 13, 2011 |
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For any of you who need help on RR, this vid should help y'all out with getting in and mixing up with Basedcoon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLnMYbKxcd8
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Guilty posted:I like these videos because he calls for the power of Frank! I literally changed my starter team to Nova/Frank/Wesker because of this video and POWER OF FRANK is never going to get old.
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What the gently caress? No Local Multiplayer? Are you serious?! I bet we can work around it by playing in training mode with regenerating health off.
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Elephunk posted:What the gently caress? No Local Multiplayer? Are you serious?! Is this a copy/paste from somewhere? Offline mode -> Versus.
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I thought the buffs in Heroes and Heralds were permanent but I just noticed those little icons below the lifebars. Some seem to active after a specific instance like Invisibility after snapback and super armor while getting hit. What kind of decks are you guys planning on running? I have two I want to try out: Wesker on point Team of One (Assuming this gives a ton of health like a Ratio 4 character in CvS2) Super Armor Projectile Immunity Sentinel on point (for quick wave dash and super armor normals) Assist Stun Super Armor Assist X-Factor Burst (For when you do get hit) (Mystic Eye and Vajra Assist for maximum salt)
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The_Cack posted:I thought the buffs in Heroes and Heralds were permanent but I just noticed those little icons below the lifebars. Some seem to active after a specific instance like Invisibility after snapback and super armor while getting hit. Team of one gives you 3 of the same character (which is why it has Multiple Man's picture)
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Niddhogg posted:Team of one gives you 3 of the same character (which is why it has Multiple Man's picture) 3 sentinels baby. Never gonna stop.
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Niddhogg posted:Team of one gives you 3 of the same character (which is why it has Multiple Man's picture) Actually that's better for red life regen... AntifaSupersoldier fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Dec 13, 2011 |
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Chocolate America posted:3 Weskers. Three against three  .
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Watching the "Team of One" bit in the trailer, there's only one health bar. This might mean there aren't any assists with it.
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Boxman posted:Is this a copy/paste from somewhere? No, read the article... It really sounds like you can only choose between playing vs. online opponents, or playing vs. the AI.
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I know it's a long shot but I hope they start having Heroes and Heralds tournaments. Because god drat I'd love to see that poo poo at least a couple high-level players go at it with the added depth of the cards. edit: I guess if it's online only then not...
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I'd like to play a teleporting speed boosted whoever. For the third card I'll take super armor or extra cancels or something. When I noticed the Nightcrawler card I got sad that he's not already a character.
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Ximum posted:Watching the "Team of One" bit in the trailer, there's only one health bar. This might mean there aren't any assists with it. Yeah, it just looks you have three versions of the same character. One dies, the next comes in.
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Elephunk posted:No, read the article... Whoops, completely missed that you were talking about H&H. Anyway, Rocket Racoon Invisibility for life. Just try and hit me.
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Elephunk posted:No, read the article... I'm with you there. If it doesn't have local VS, I'm probably never gonna touch H&H. If it does (and I feel like it probably will because not even Capcom could gently caress up that badly) my friends and I are gonna rock this poo poo on the regular. H&H mystery game tournaments, gently caress yeah. E: I also hope there's an option to pick 3 random cards. That would make for some pretty fun matches.
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Liku posted:I know it's a long shot but I hope they start having Heroes and Heralds tournaments. Because god drat I'd love to see that poo poo at least a couple high-level players go at it with the added depth of the cards. e: But yes, if there's an offline option H&H random characters, random assists, random cards will become a staple of my mystery game tournaments.
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Fellblade posted:Secondly, and the main thing that inspired my post, the mixup on incoming characters where you fly into j.S is giving me a few problems. If they pushblock I can never seem to get close enough to them before they land to go for the air throw, what am I doing wrong? It just occured to me that it might be a flight cancel to hit the ground fast enough, but I'd like some confirmation from anybody that knows. If they just regular block, I've been dashing in for the command grab, which worked a few times until my friend/training dummy came in, blocked, then jumped causing the whiffed grab. I rewatched Knives's Sent and this is what he does: fly and hit them on incoming with meaty j.S, dash as soon as Sent lands, jump and airthrow. It looks like what happens when the opponent pushblocks is that they stay in the air longer due to the pushblock, which gives sent enough time to fall and dash back in for the airthrow. When Knives has the opponent expecting the airthrow he substitutes s.M for the airthrow after the dash (the idea is to catch them hitting H in an attempt to throw tech). Dren fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Dec 13, 2011 |
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Dren posted:I rewatched Knives's Sent and this is what he does: This is what I assumed it was as well, but it didn't work. I guess I might not be timing the meaty j.S correctly, will have to give it more practice.
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Dec 13, 2011 20:48
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In the guide they mention a trick with Ironman where you can make them block an attack and then fly or unfly, causing him to not go anywhere because his flight mode starts up incredibly fast and cancels his momentum in any direction. Can Sentinel do the same thing? Seems like that could be a good variation on the above mix-up.
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Even if Heroes and Heralds doesn't have local vs. play (which I can't imagine it doesn't) it does mention being able to 'test your deck' in training mode which could be used as a workaround for playing someone locally via setting the dummy to 2P control. I think that's how they did the 'infinite x-factor, 1 bar network simulation, Rock Band drum controller' part of the mystery game tournament.
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H&H not having local play would be just about the dumbest thing ever. So, because Capcom, I'm going to assume it doesn't have local play.
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Do the DLC characters have 6 colors without further DLC? Wondering if the card allowing 3x of one character is why.
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Elephunk posted:No, read the article... gently caress Ca$$hCom
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jscolon2.0 posted:Do the DLC characters have 6 colors without further DLC? Wondering if the card allowing 3x of one character is why. Every character has six. The DLC characters have their seventh for free though, yeah.
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NecroMonster posted:H&H not having local play would be just about the dumbest thing ever. So, because Capcom, I'm going to assume it doesn't have local play. Yeah, what do want to bet on H&H having no local play. Vanilla Marvel Shadow Mode couldn't be played unless you were connected to the internet. Which is ridiculous, b/c Shadow mode packs cost a dollar or two each and didn't even need online to function. Same with events: couldn't access them unless you were online.
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Maybe I'm just shaking off the rust after not playing any fighting games for 6 months but Magnus mission 9 is driving me nuts: S, SJC, j.H, ADD, j.H, H, S, SJC, j.H, ADD, j.H, H, Hypergrav...there's more but in about 100 attempts I've landed the last H before hypergrav maybe 10 times. Haggar tends to recover too soon. I can do all of it up to the last s.H no problem and I've tried varying the timing on every part of it. The time when i have connected it just doesn't feel any different to when it whiffs  Any tips?
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I'm really more excited about a nerf to Wesker so I don't see him on every team, than about H&H. v vVVV Im hoping, anyway Waverhouse fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Dec 14, 2011 |
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Waverhouse posted:I'm really more excited about a nerf to Wesker so I don't see him on every team, than about H&H. v What nerf to Wesker? e; Don't get your hopes up man Bland fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Dec 14, 2011 |
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Waverhouse posted:I'm really more excited about a nerf to Wesker so I don't see him on every team, than about H&H. v Wesker doesn't need a nerf noob.
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Waverhouse posted:I'm really more excited about a nerf to Wesker so I don't see him on every team, than about H&H. v I'm pretty sure they explicitly stated that they aren't doing a balance patch, just fixing some glitches (no Wesker's glasses are not going to count as a glitch) and adding H&H.
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dat fukkin dog!! posted:Wesker doesn't need a nerf noob. Seriously. Even EVO 2011 champion Viscant says that yeah he's on every team now because he's brain-dead easy to play, he has Iceman syndrome right now and that in 4 or 5 months people will figure him out and he won't be on every team anymore.
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Player 2 posted:Maybe I'm just shaking off the rust after not playing any fighting games for 6 months but Magnus mission 9 is driving me nuts: I more or less main Mag If Haggar is recovering too soon, then you're probably doing the st. H too late. Ideally, you want to hit your opponent as early as possible with st. H to connect with Hyper Grab/as part of the hg loop. You may also be canceling into Hyper Grab too late. Also, once you get to Mission 10, just remember to sjc into GS at the end.
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