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Xanderg
Feb 13, 2008
Well, I just applied for the February exam. I don't expect to get in, but it'll be nice to get a feel for the process. Anything I should know going into the exam? Is it worth buying the book?

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Bizob
Dec 18, 2004

Tiger out of nowhere!

Xanderg posted:

Well, I just applied for the February exam. I don't expect to get in, but it'll be nice to get a feel for the process. Anything I should know going into the exam? Is it worth buying the book?

There isn't anything in the book that is going to blow your mind, but its worth buying just to get a concrete example of what the exam is like and how the process works. Educate yourself about the process and you can't go wrong.

I officially declined my offer this morning. Best of luck to everyone!

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
Is it possible to take the test without yet choosing one of the five career paths?

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Jedi Knight Luigi posted:

Is it possible to take the test without yet choosing one of the five career paths?

When you are applying to take the test you have to pick a cone as part of the application.

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Dameius posted:

When you are applying to take the test you have to pick a cone as part of the application.

So if you fail it and later retake it, are you unable to change your cone?

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Jedi Knight Luigi posted:

So if you fail it and later retake it, are you unable to change your cone?

No, if you fail and have to retake it you start over from step 01 again which gives you the chance to apply under a different cone. The only requirement there is that you can apply once a year. So if you take the February test in 2012 you are taking the first administration of the FSOT in 2012 and won't be eligible to take the FSOT again until the first administration in 2013 (which will most likely be in February again).

HeroOfTheRevolution
Apr 26, 2008

You apply separately each time. I believe you can only take it once a year.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Which also means you can have separate candidacies in separate cones.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009

Diplomaticus posted:

Which also means you can have separate candidacies in separate cones.

I also understand you can have one generalist and one specialist candidacy at the same time but if you accept a COE and/or go on a register, the other is terminated, is that correct?

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
No idea. Sounds right though I'm not sure getting placed on a register would terminate it.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.
I need to add some of you guys on Communicator/Messenger.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

TCD posted:

I need to add some of you guys on Communicator/Messenger.

I don't even know how it works.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

I didn't make it past the personal narratives section last year. Presumably because I would be entirely too awesome. But also, possibly, maybe, in part, my biography has not been awesome enough.

I have a "STEM" (I don't want to get more specific than that, just for dumb privacy reasons) undergrad degree, and am looking to go to grad school for STEM next year. Because it will make me more money in the substantially more likely scenario the Foreign Service never hires me. That said, my dream is to be a Foreign Service Officer. Will I be perceived as a stronger candidate when I apply from graduate school, if the subject is not particularly related to anything law-ish or foreign servicy? I.e., will going to grad school as I intend confer no extra advantage?

Homie S
Aug 6, 2001

This is what it means

Diplomaticus posted:

I don't even know how it works.

It doesn't work on half of the computers I use (including my own but don't really want to bother our IMS guy with it).

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

Best Friends posted:

I didn't make it past the personal narratives section last year. Presumably because I would be entirely too awesome. But also, possibly, maybe, in part, my biography has not been awesome enough.

I have a "STEM" (I don't want to get more specific than that, just for dumb privacy reasons) undergrad degree, and am looking to go to grad school for STEM next year. Because it will make me more money in the substantially more likely scenario the Foreign Service never hires me. That said, my dream is to be a Foreign Service Officer. Will I be perceived as a stronger candidate when I apply from graduate school, if the subject is not particularly related to anything law-ish or foreign servicy? I.e., will going to grad school as I intend confer no extra advantage?

I have no idea what you are actually asking here, but I think the answer might be that State is not going to care what your degree is in.

Vilerat
May 11, 2002

Homie S posted:

It doesn't work on half of the computers I use (including my own but don't really want to bother our IMS guy with it).

Too bad you don't know any IMS who could help you.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Man, I've been on the specialist registry for six months and as far as I know they haven't hired a single class since. There were rumors of one in January, but that's been pushed back to February. Congress :argh:

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
:(

In other news, January offers are going out (second round maybe?) and seem to be hitting quite low, I saw a 5.575 in POL ranked in the low 40's got one. And a 5.5 in MGMT got one (no rank info). I'm guessing this is due to a lot of people expiring off the registers in the "gap" between July and December when the budget crisis was throwing things off (not that it isn't doing that now, but the damage has already been done).

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

The Moon Monster posted:

Man, I've been on the specialist registry for six months and as far as I know they haven't hired a single class since. There were rumors of one in January, but that's been pushed back to February. Congress :argh:
What specialty?

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

TCD posted:

What specialty?

Security Engineering Officer. Note my amazing custom title :v:

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

The Moon Monster posted:

Security Engineering Officer. Note my amazing custom title :v:

The chances for a goon Post increase. (assuming you get a class soon)

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Business of Ferrets posted:

I have no idea what you are actually asking here, but I think the answer might be that State is not going to care what your degree is in.

Awesome, thanks.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

TCD posted:

The chances for a goon Post increase. (assuming you get a class soon)

Maybe we can finally get that aircraft carrier...

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
When BoF is goon DCM, this could be a Real Thing™

Business of Ferrets
Mar 2, 2008

Good to see that everything is back to normal.

Diplomaticus posted:

When BoF is goon DCM, this could be a Real Thing™

Sounds like a great way to never become ambassador!

Just kidding would be rad.

Vilerat
May 11, 2002
Yeah but we'd all have to bid on Port Moresby or some poo poo like that. We're not all getting The Hague...

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Vilerat posted:

Yeah but we'd all have to bid on Port Moresby or some poo poo like that. We're not all getting The Hague...

Even better, as we can get pamchenko in for USAID. Dude, I'd totally bid on a hardship again if it was goon ran.

TCD fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Dec 16, 2011

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Goonpost UlaanBaatar

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Diplomaticus posted:

Goonpost UlaanBaatar

Why on my check in sheet is there a field for "Somethingawful nick name?"

Wait, you're not a member? Well, Charge' BoF will initiate a PNG now.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Post one's callsign is "Chowdown", DATT's callsign is "Dunson"

Homie S
Aug 6, 2001

This is what it means

Vilerat posted:

Too bad you don't know any IMS who could help you.

You can do that kinda poo poo remotely? I need to OPEN MY MIND.

Although I probably just need to call the help desk or something.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Diplomaticus posted:

:(

In other news, January offers are going out (second round maybe?) and seem to be hitting quite low, I saw a 5.575 in POL ranked in the low 40's got one. And a 5.5 in MGMT got one (no rank info). I'm guessing this is due to a lot of people expiring off the registers in the "gap" between July and December when the budget crisis was throwing things off (not that it isn't doing that now, but the damage has already been done).

Quick dumb question. When you talk about "January offers", are you talking about people that took the oral assessment in January?

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Shageletic posted:

Quick dumb question. When you talk about "January offers", are you talking about people that took the oral assessment in January?

No, he's talking about January offers for an A-100

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011
How difficult is it to change OA dates? I'm scheduled for mine in DC at the end of January. At the moment, I'm in Brussels for a litigation project. The money's really good, and it's scheduled to run well into February. I'd like to stay through the end of it.

There's no way they'd accept this as a reason to change dates, is there?

pamchenko
Apr 16, 2011

TCD posted:

Even better, as we can get pamchenko in for USAID. Dude, I'd totally bid on a hardship again if it was goon ran.

Well, I am headed to Iraq next... I'll put Port Moresby down for my follow-on. Preferential bidding!

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Wait, What?


The Jan class has been cancelled? I was just talking with HR last week and they told me I looked good to go for January? ANOTHER delay!?

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Skandiaavity posted:

Wait, What?


The Jan class has been cancelled? I was just talking with HR last week and they told me I looked good to go for January? ANOTHER delay!?

If you're responding to me, my information was A) not official and possibly wrong, and B) applied to specialists and not officers.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Yeah, I'm in it for the specialist position. I'll call HR again sometime in early January, since everyone's out for the holidays now.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Ah, the week before christmas. So relaxing, don't have much real work on my plate, just gonna kick ba--gently caress.

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Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Diplomaticus posted:

Ah, the week before christmas. So relaxing, don't have much real work on my plate, just gonna kick ba--gently caress.

Shouldn't the um, Swedish Foreign Service be worrying about that?

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