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Alsoquote:bluhbluhthisisgarbage asked: Final proof that Heart is the lamest power.
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Prison Warden posted:And, what the hell? The entire kids storyline has only been 24 hours?! Well, the Reckoning took exactly 24 hours, and John had been in there a while before that started. I think if you cross-reference with the pesterchum timestamps and Dave's meteor countdown it works out to ~31 hours including the Reckoning, so yeah, I'd bet on 31.4 hours total from John entering to the Scratch. Maybe 34.1 hours. edit: wait, why would Jade have been playing for up to a few weeks? Unless you're suggesting Dave took her timetraveling durin g the frog breeding, but I kind of thought that was just him. Mazerunner fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Dec 14, 2011 |
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voting third party posted:His ancestor was able to do that until he overexerted himself anyway. Also I've been wondering if Sollux dies if the other trolls will be able to slow down at all. Hussie pointed out once on his tumblr that everyone who has gone god tier has been killed in one way or another by the green sun. I think it would be very fitting with all the twists that have happened in the story if the trolls just slam into the green sun at full speed. Yeah, going at max speed was exerting him to death, but considering he navigated interstellar distances, his normal cruising speed was faster than light too. And Sollux was pretty obviously exerting himself when he started piloting the meteor in Descend, unless that was just mustard. It was the Derse dreamers who died as their dreamselves on their questbed on Derse/Derse's moon that were all killed by Green Sun energy, John was killed by regular old stabbing and Jade was killed by shaving cream. The Green Sun energy might or might not be a necessary component of the alternate method of going God Tier, but it's not the only component. Being your kiss revived dreamself and being on your alternate quest bed are the other components.
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Mr. D Bewildering posted:Of all the crazy things we've witnessed in the comic, this is the one thing that breaks my suspension of disbelief. I've maintained that it was pretty much the same day. The story is so heavy with flashbacks and parallel storylines that once you cut out the excess such as the trolls and just focused on the kids and what they're doing not much time has passed at all. Look at John, who's been in the game the longest. You had John enter the Medium, fight a few imps and giants, get hassled by Terezi who gave him a rocket pack that he used to go to Rose's planet, teleport from there to the ectobiology lab in the outer ring, clone up some goddamn babies, go back to his planet, get bugged by Vriska, screw around on his planet a little more, die then go to Skaia and meet Rose then get yelled at by Karkat to zoom off to make the Scratch happen. It's a packed schedule to be sure, and he even managed a lasagna meal and a couple short naps, but he could probably do it in a day.
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Renaissance Robot posted:Final proof that Heart is the lamest power. It was true on Captain Planet and remains true now
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Somebody get me a fanart of Gamzee clubbing Ma-Ti to death, stat!Mazerunner posted:edit: wait, why would Jade have been playing for up to a few weeks? Unless you're suggesting Dave took her timetraveling durin g the frog breeding, but I kind of thought that was just him. That's exactly what I was suggesting, yes. It's based on little more than the idea that Jade personally went frog hunting with Dave rather than having him independently retrieve the frogs for her while she mostly stayed at the breeding station. Even if she was being perfectly linear in person as well as conversationally, it doesn't actually matter because the point is 20-30 hours is actually a pretty long time to get poo poo done in and Mr Pumroy said it better.
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Andrew's current forecast is for Act 6 to be almost as long as Act 5? Here's to 5 more years of Homestuck! 
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Renaissance Robot posted:Somebody get me a fanart of Gamzee clubbing Ma-Ti to death, stat! Yeah, you're right that it doesn't matter if Jade was around for a week or just a day in terms of getting poo poo done. It's more of a character thing? Like there's dozens of Daves running around making sure everything runs smooth for the other kids, so having there be dozens of Jades too kind of cheapens that I guess. In either case it's totally inconsequential and irrelevant at this point so
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Wouldn't Jade time traveling all over the place have made her password system almost impossible?
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Gabriel Pope posted:Andrew's current forecast is for Act 6 to be almost as long as Act 5? Here's to 5 more years of Homestuck! Hahahah, yeah. He kinda consistently underestimates how long it will actually take. There's pretty much no way Act 6 is going to be shorter than Act 5 now.
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King of Solomon posted:Hahahah, yeah. He kinda consistently underestimates how long it will actually take. There's pretty much no way Act 6 is going to be shorter than Act 5 now. What are you talking about? Homestuck finished on 4/13/2010 and we've been enjoying Jail Break 2 the last year and a half.
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I know I'm late to the party, but did anyone else instantly buy a calendar after quickly double-checking that there was no troll crossdressing this time?
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I hadn't read MSPA in a few months and did a huge catch up (Holy poo poo, Cascade) so I may have missed this, but how do we know that R??? Lalonde and D??? Strider are new universe versions of Mom and Bro?
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Zeeman posted:I hadn't read MSPA in a few months and did a huge catch up (Holy poo poo, Cascade) so I may have missed this, but how do we know that R??? Lalonde and D??? Strider are new universe versions of Mom and Bro? They look exactly like them, and Mom and Bro were both paradox clones like Jane, Jake, and the original kids.
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Wandering Knitter posted:I know I'm late to the party, but did anyone else instantly buy a calendar after quickly double-checking that there was no troll crossdressing this time? No, but there are specific things I'm waiting on, otherwise I absolutely would. Zeeman posted:but how do we know that R??? Lalonde and D??? Strider are new universe versions of Mom and Bro?
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Zeeman posted:I hadn't read MSPA in a few months and did a huge catch up (Holy poo poo, Cascade) so I may have missed this, but how do we know that R??? Lalonde and D??? Strider are new universe versions of Mom and Bro?
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King of Solomon posted:The scratch replaces the players from the pre-Scratch session with their ectobiological guardians (which is why John was replaced by Nanna instead of Dad.) Ah OK, I think the continued presence of Dad was what was confusing me here, I'd forgotten that he wasn't a paradox clone
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Specifically though, we know that a scratch switches paradox clone groups because Doc Scratch explicitly stated that it does when he was rambling about Troll Ancestors; the Ancestors were the original Sgrub players who scratched their session, leading to the Trolls we know being the players.
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Do we know exactly where Dad came from? I find it oddly suspect that both John and Jane, if allowed to grow to adulthood uninterrupted, would end up having the EXACT SAME CHILD by conventional means.
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Dad is adopted. Problem solved.
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Dad is a universal constant.
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loquacius posted:Do we know exactly where Dad came from? I find it oddly suspect that both John and Jane, if allowed to grow to adulthood uninterrupted, would end up having the EXACT SAME CHILD by conventional means. We know very little about Dad. I don't think it was ever explicitly said that he was born by normal means - Nannasprite does refer to him as her son, but of course we can't necessarily rely on that being meant literally. Note, though, that in this conversation we learn that Nanna was supposedly "betrothed to a fine, upstanding gentleman" of unknown identity; presumably Dad's father, if Dad is indeed her regular human-style son. But there is no indication of who that is: Dad keeps around his mother's ashes and portrait, but nothing at all to tell us what his father - biological or adoptive - might have been like. If my memory does not trick me, he's never seen or even mentioned except in this one serious businesslog. And Nanna does not seem bitter about him or anything, which doesn't do much to support the idea that his wife and son simply cut him out of their lives... it just doesn't seem to add up. We haven't seen that much of the post-scratch setup yet, but it appears that there, too, only one of his putative parents is in evidence. Nothing to suggest that Jane ever had a grandmother. (Or a mother, but we know the reason for that.) Perhaps in the beginning the real reason for all this was that going into too much detail regarding the kids' family situations would have cluttered the story unbearably - although I believe AH has said that the ectobiology thing was planned from pretty early on - but nevertheless ~The Mystery of Dad~ is a major opening for weird plot poo poo to squeeze in through, and I don't think the situation is being mirrored for no reason now.
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Here's what I think about Nanna's husband: he's still alive, and likely lives either in a home or on his own, something like that. If you look at it from that perspective, then his lack of mention mostly comes from his lack of relevance.
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Renaissance Robot posted:That's exactly what I was suggesting, yes. It's based on little more than the idea that Jade personally went frog hunting with Dave rather than having him independently retrieve the frogs for her while she mostly stayed at the breeding station. I figured that they both went out frog-hunting, but that Dave was the only one who would fade out for cheating time shenanigans moments whenever they got to the right spots that needed time-based frog extraction. We haven't actually seen any proof in the comic that Time players can actually bring along guests through time. Also, if you factor in Rose getting extra time by merging with her beta universe self, then Jade already gets an extra thirteen years by merging with her dead dreamself. Factory Factory posted:Dad is adopted. Problem solved. I'm not sure why, but I kind of like this theory now. Edit: ^^^ Also I agree that Nanna's supposed husband isn't shown because he probably just wasn't relevant. (Also maybe they adopted.) Wandering Knitter posted:I know I'm late to the party, but did anyone else instantly buy a calendar after quickly double-checking that there was no troll crossdressing this time? On top of that, I think the calender is actually cheaper than last year, and has even cooler art this time around, including a few that were already art prints, which means it's pretty much a built-in discount. Motherfucking C.R.U.N.K, man.
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I wasn't following Homestuck or anything at the time, so what was the horrifying 2011 calendar drawing all about? e: VV JESUS CHRIST WHY 
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YF-23 posted:I wasn't following Homestuck or anything at the time, so what was the horrifying 2011 calendar drawing all about? 
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YF-23 posted:I wasn't following Homestuck or anything at the time, so what was the horrifying 2011 calendar drawing all about?  This was the March drawing.fake edit: yes, I think the tags are totally necessary.real edit: /\/\/\/\/\ That is a much less terrifying way of putting it.
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Well Manicured Man posted:
No March discussion is complete without this  (I think Pigbuster drew this? Correct me if I'm wrong)
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Well Manicured Man posted:Holy gently caress, who drew that, who thought drawing that would be a good idea and who thought putting that in a calendar would be also a smart thing to do. I'm terrified now.
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Dias posted:Holy gently caress, who drew that, who thought drawing that would be a good idea and who thought putting that in a calendar would be also a smart thing to do. AbortedSlunk drew that, famous for their mushy potato faces. Also drew a weird wallpaper involving Bro and Kanaya that a couple posters have an avatar of.
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Well Manicured Man posted:
Man I had forgotten how bad it really was.
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creationist believer posted:No March discussion is complete without this
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Dias posted:Holy gently caress, who drew that, who thought drawing that would be a good idea and who thought putting that in a calendar would be also a smart thing to do. Let Me Tell You About Homestuck Fans
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Chunky12345 posted:AbortedSlunk drew that, famous for their mushy potato faces. I think that, ironically enough, Eridan's face is the only one that actually looks decent.
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You know where Dad's from? He's a meteor kid from an independent, failed, three-man session. He gave his copy of Sburb to John, because John's was lost in the mail. The other players? Fedorafreak and Bro Strider.
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One curious thing about Dad is that he bears quite the resemblence to Colonel Sassacre. Coincidence? Maybe. Who knows?
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Well Manicured Man posted:
Eridan is the least terrifying part of this.
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This is the other famed image by that artist
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flatluigi posted:This is the other famed image by that artist I was watching the art team thread when this was first suggested as a wallpaper. I couldn't imagine it not being awesome. 
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