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flatluigi posted:But an incredibly similar game has been out for just about a year? And that's why an incredibly similar character is really good right now and not the characters that still need stuff figured out. You're not seeing too much new, because the people winning tournaments aren't as good with the new stuff as they are with old, simple characters.
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In three years, when someone has finally figured out how to make Chun-Li a serious god-tier problem in this game, I will finally be vindicated. 
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Dec 15, 2011 00:52
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Ahahahahaha, offline H&H really is only against the AI. http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston/blog/2011/12/14/heroes__heralds:_the_offline_campaign
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Dec 15, 2011 00:58
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Krad posted:Yeah, no. What I'm saying is these guys actually showed something new to watch.
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Between the above and the gem system reveal for SFxT, today is "I Hate Capcom" day
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kaujot posted:Ahahahahaha, offline H&H really is only against the AI.
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Love you forever Capcom, you loving idiots.
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Correnth posted:In three years, when someone has finally figured out how to make Chun-Li a serious god-tier problem in this game, I will finally be vindicated. You and me both. I think Chun is the only character that absolutely no high level player has put any time into.
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kaujot posted:Ahahahahaha, offline H&H really is only against the AI.
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Shout outs to Crapcom, glad I didn't buy the game yet.
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Anyone play this game in Canada or eastcoast? Add me psn Xiaosuperstar lets play some games heheoheohoehe
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kaujot posted:Ahahahahaha, offline H&H really is only against the AI. So the work around is to... go into training mode? And then pick a set of 3 ability cards for your team? You and whoever you're playing has to then spend time scrolling through the list of cards? Can you share decks? Make pre-existing decks? It sounds like a real hassle for local pla- Wait a minute... Heros and Heralds is a way of easing players into Street Fighter x Tekken, diguised as a free DLC 
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flatluigi posted:But an incredibly similar game has been out for just about a year? Which really isn't a lot of time for a fighting game, I'm pretty sure a year after MvC2 was out people were still using Iceman because they thought he was top-tier.
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Why did this instantly make me think of Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance? [4-player Castlevania adventure game with a great concept and almost every character in the series, but the worst UI and camera controls possible] Oh yeah, it's a great idea marred by just unbelievable lack of effort on the major details. . They could've half-assed it, and let you share a deck, but no. Not even that.
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Tamagod Sushi posted:So the work around is to... go into training mode? And then pick a set of 3 ability cards for your team? You and whoever you're playing has to then spend time scrolling through the list of cards? Can you share decks? Make pre-existing decks? It sounds like a real hassle for local pla- That assumes you can even select cards for the dummy team in heroes and heralds training mode.
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NecroMonster posted:That assumes you can even select cards for the dummy team in heroes and heralds training mode. It says you can in the article that was linked. Which means that we have an awkward workaround allowing us to do the thing that everyone wanted to do. Thanks Capcom.
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Liku posted:Which really isn't a lot of time for a fighting game, I'm pretty sure a year after MvC2 was out people were still using Iceman because they thought he was top-tier. Actually not really. After a year (from what I can tell) basically everyone was playing Cable, Strider/Doom had been discovered, Magneto had been discovered. Pretty soon after that everyone was playing Sentinel and JWong was already playing Storm. I think people downplay how quickly some of the top tier of MvC2 was found.
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Mr. Fun posted:It says you can in the article that was linked. Which means that we have an awkward workaround allowing us to do the thing that everyone wanted to do. Thanks Capcom. And not reading the article makes me look like an idiot. Welp.
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So I've got Skrull/Doom on the team but don't know who else to add. I was toying around with Nemesis on point, but I can't really seem to get him to do much. Yeah I can get in and land a combo or two, but he's not playing the 'battery' role as much as I'd like him to. I was thinking of Chris (I always lean on Chris since I've known his combos since vanilla) but mostly I'd like someone who can either A) take advantage of Skrull's Stone Smite assist, or B) DHC into Skrull/Doom pretty well. Iron Fist can DHC into either of my guys pretty well it looks like, but...he just doesn't seem to do anything. My air game feels so weak with him and I don't really know how to get in with him either. Thoughts?
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Waverhouse posted:So I've got Skrull/Doom on the team but don't know who else to add. I was toying around with Nemesis on point, but I can't really seem to get him to do much. Yeah I can get in and land a combo or two, but he's not playing the 'battery' role as much as I'd like him to. I was thinking of Chris (I always lean on Chris since I've known his combos since vanilla) but mostly I'd like someone who can either A) take advantage of Skrull's Stone Smite assist, or B) DHC into Skrull/Doom pretty well. Nova. He basically has skrull's inferno hyper.
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Krad posted:That was five bazillion times more exciting than the usual matches with the usual "top tier" people playing Wesker vs Wesker. Hey basically every character used in those matches that isn't a new character was top tier in vanilla except for uh Dormammu??? Who was still pretty good. the real tear list looks like this now:  wesker phoenix wolverine sentinel is zero next???
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Waverhouse posted:So I've got Skrull/Doom on the team but don't know who else to add. I was toying around with Nemesis on point, but I can't really seem to get him to do much. Yeah I can get in and land a combo or two, but he's not playing the 'battery' role as much as I'd like him to. I was thinking of Chris (I always lean on Chris since I've known his combos since vanilla) but mostly I'd like someone who can either A) take advantage of Skrull's Stone Smite assist, or B) DHC into Skrull/Doom pretty well. Nem/Skrull/Doom is a good team. I wish my flatmate would add Doom to his Nem/Skrull setup but everyone plays Doom!  Maybe Dr. Strange? Sentinel?Nobody can make good use of Skrull's stone smite assist. Nobody!!
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Liku posted:Which really isn't a lot of time for a fighting game, I'm pretty sure a year after MvC2 was out people were still using Iceman because they thought he was top-tier. This may be a little bit off topic but I keep seeing Wesker being compared to IceMan, can someone explain to me what happened to IceMan in MvC2 and why he apparently went from godlike to poo poo or mid tier?
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Player 2 posted:This may be a little bit off topic but I keep seeing Wesker being compared to IceMan, can someone explain to me what happened to IceMan in MvC2 and why he apparently went from godlike to poo poo or mid tier? When MvC2 was first being played in tournaments people thought iceman was really really good because he didn't take chip damage when he blocked, and had a good beam attack, as well as some other special attacks that were decent. I wouldn't necessarily he went to poo poo tier but once people found out about magneto, storm, sentinel, cable and the other top tier characters he wasn't really worth using anymore. The comparison is that, since UMvC3 is so new people shouldn't be crying about nerfs and stuff because things change. Not everything is known about the game and getting capcom to constantly dip their fingers into the game is really annoying and stupid for people trying to learn the game.
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flatluigi posted:What are some of the potential drawbacks Wesker might have? Familiarity? Um...hmm. Hmm. v  v
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Anyone got any links to some hype MvC2 matches from back in the day? It'd be interesting to see high level play in that game as compared to now.
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dat fukkin dog!! posted:Hey basically every character used in those matches that isn't a new character was top tier in vanilla except for uh Dormammu??? Who was still pretty good. what? sentinel is really bad =\
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flatluigi posted:What are some of the potential drawbacks Wesker might have? Does it matter??? Nobody is saying Wesker is going to be bad or even has the chance to become bad unless Capcom dips their hands into the game again. He has a lot of tools that make him a really good character, but so do a lot of other characters. He's just been in use for a year vs. a month for the new characters. It sounds like people get real caremad when teams have Wesker as an anchor, so it sounds like the real issue here isn't necessarily Wesker, but Xfactor being a really lovely and dumb mechanic. e: Your Rain posted:what? sentinel is really bad =\ Lmao what?? He was the first and only character nerfed in vanilla MvC3! He took a huge health hit like within the first 2 months. Thats a list of characters people whined about when mvc3 first dropped till now. If think sentinel is bad though wow just wow. Good normals, command grab, hits hard, easy combos, projectiles, fast wavedash, and super armor??? His biggest problems are his size and really low health. dat fukkin dog!! fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Dec 15, 2011 |
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Anyone got any links to some hype MvC2 matches from back in the day? It'd be interesting to see high level play in that game as compared to now. The Neo vs Clockworck money match which you may have already seen but hey, any excuse to watch this again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVTdAOb54xI
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Player 2 posted:The Neo vs Clockworck money match which you may have already seen but hey, any excuse to watch this again Careful watching this, you'll probably cry because it makes mvc3 look so so bad.
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Player 2 posted:The Neo vs Clockworck money match which you may have already seen but hey, any excuse to watch this again I think it's fair to say nearly everyone has seen this. Wasn't there a Wednesday Night Fights or something back in the day?
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Anyone got any links to some hype MvC2 matches from back in the day? It'd be interesting to see high level play in that game as compared to now. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mvc2+comeback+justin+wong The Josh360 comebacks (for and against Justin), Evo 2007 vs Yipes, and Xecutioner matches are some of my favorites. If you just want hype and MvC2, Clockwork vs Neo is the place to go and that got linked while I was typing up other stuff so click that link
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:I think it's fair to say nearly everyone has seen this. Wasn't there a Wednesday Night Fights or something back in the day? Yes but they weren't recorded, as this was before streams.
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dat fukkin dog!! posted:
It's actually both because the system compounds with his design to create "A Really Good Character". Anchors got stronger in this game but the first person to x-factor with them is only relevant in regards to what they are (at the moment) because every single good anchor kills people on incoming mixups. The argument of "he's a veteran top tier who has been played for awhile vs other characters!!" justifying his position as "best anchor" is really strange because it doesn't really have anything to do with experience. It's his team functionality, strong overall tools and ability to make the entire other team irrelevant once he lands a hit (even if they have Wesker anchor oh noooo)that makes him the best anchor. You know, his character design. There are obviously other characters like this, but none of them have the overwhelming overall strength he has as an anchor due to his complete lack of necessities for doing anything as an anchor and team functionality. Overall I don't believe Wesker should be nerfed as a character tool-wise, because there's obviously going to be good characters one way or another (and if you nerfed him, I'd argue that you would have to nerf many of the potential top tier who don't "work" for their damage) but specifically HIS anchor potential is a problem at the moment and it isn't simply due to one factor. The only nerf I'd argue for is nerfing his x-factor duration but who knows what other stupid characters ( ZERO DORMAMMU ZERO DORMAMMU ZERO DORMAMMU the real best characters in the game ) would take his place. edit: Also people saying that nerfing his glasses change would make him "ok again" are morons and don't understand why he's currently so strong in the first place. Fereydun fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Dec 15, 2011 |
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rumor going around that wright is getting nerfed (most common story being removing the invincibility on his assist) http://i.imgur.com/OTUvv.png darealkooky fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Dec 15, 2011 |
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darealkooky posted:rumor going around that the invincibility on wrights super assists is getting patched This is for the best. I'd rather have a bad character all-around than a bad character with a retardedly good gimmick assist.
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