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Zorak posted:Yes, Hussie made it clear that they're basically a doorway, what since they channel the Green Sun's power through their body. It may be possible that John could pull them "through" her or something. It's a little confusing to me that her "Doorway" power to the Green Sun is still active, considering the rest of her First Guardian powers were supposed to be inactive as a result of the 'between dimensions' thing. ActionZero posted:I genuinely hope that the intermission ends here and we go back to the post scratch stuff for another month or two. That in itself would probably be more torturous for the shippers than anything else happening. My favourite imaginable outcome is a three-year time-skip for the trolls and Rose and Dave as well, so that when we get back to them they all make passing reference and allusion to what they did in the three years we didn't see. Then Rose and Kanaya make one stiff, awkward reference to some adolescent experimentation that went on in those lost years and never reference it again, resulting in a massive outpouring of shipper frustration. But also because sometimes it is more fun when things are implied than actually going through the story motions of them.
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It's still not okay with me that everyone is now okay with that mass-murdering clown just being there.
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Roger Explosion posted:It's still not okay with me that everyone is now okay with that mass-murdering clown just being there. Trolls man, trolls.
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Waffnuffly posted:If Jade makes John jump through so he can meet up with everyone while she stays stuck on the ship alone for years, I'll be really sad Well, I think the idea is for John to dive through the portal, grab the trolls and god tiered kids, then go back through the portal so they're all on the ship.
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Bahahahahaha! John's eyes.
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King of Solomon posted:Well, I think the idea is for John to dive through the portal, grab the trolls and god tiered kids, then go back through the portal so they're all on the ship. This would be ideal, but so far, we have no evidence that you can even do that.
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Waffnuffly posted:This would be ideal, but so far, we have no evidence that you can even do that. Well, we know it works one way, why not the other?
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King of Solomon posted:Well, I think the idea is for John to dive through the portal, grab the trolls and god tiered kids, then go back through the portal so they're all on the ship. Maybe he can just sort of...reach in there and...
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All John needs to do now is enter Jade
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It would make more sense if they're all on the ship for the three years. A) With everyone together, there'd be less catching up to do later, plus everyone would be the same age (15 earth years) when they finally meet the B2 kids B) If John pulls everybody out now, they could escape just before Jack arrives at the Green Sun C) What the else else would the Green Sun group do? They don't know the location of the new session.
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Between mastery of space, time, wind, and ??? I don't see how they can't make the 3 years pass in an instant if all the God Tiers are together.
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David Copperfield posted:Between mastery of space, time, wind, and ??? I don't see how they can't make the 3 years pass in an instant if all the God Tiers are together. Well, other than the fact that from Hussie has said, we know they will spend the three years.
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YggiDee posted:Well, we know it works one way, why not the other? It could work in reverse, but where would you enter? There's no visible return node that we can see, at least so far. But who knows what's gonna happen at this point!
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David Copperfield posted:Between mastery of space, time, wind, and ??? I don't see how they can't make the 3 years pass in an instant if all the God Tiers are together. Yeah, I really doubt the 3 year thing won't be shenaniganned away. Five Godtiers, a gaggle of high level trolls and a ringed pm and possibly a ringed vg? It does crank the tension up quite a bit, but it'd be a good example of the kind of poo poo they would have to deal with with fighting LE. Edit: gently caress this phone Ominous Jazz fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Dec 16, 2011 |
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Waffnuffly posted:It could work in reverse, but where would you enter? There's no visible return node that we can see, at least so far. But who knows what's gonna happen at this point!
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Waffnuffly posted:It could work in reverse, but where would you enter? There's no visible return node that we can see, at least so far. But who knows what's gonna happen at this point! Just sort of reach over... And...
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When they get into the new session (and assuming the trolls enter another session as well), will there be more dream selves as part of the new session? If so, it could be how all the trolls reach god tier.
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How many people can claim their sister is also an interdimensional television? ...Just John.
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Bobulus posted:Well, other than the fact that from Hussie has said, we know they will spend the three years. Not quite. He said that he was intent on consolidating the ages of all the kids by the time they breach the other fourth wall, and further stated that the kids are about to experience a time blowback of sorts, as a kind of retribution for the incredibly long day they just had (the entirety of Act 5 Part 2 took place in a single day from the kids' perspective, and a matter of hours from the trolls'). I figure that this means that the group is going to AGE 3 years, but to them it's not going to feel anywhere near that long. Well, I mean, they'll feel the brunt of suddenly aging 3 years, but it won't feel like 3 years have gone by.
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pandaK posted:All John needs to do now is enter Jade Haha yeah he does, am I right ugh
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Captain Oblivious posted:How many people can claim their sister is also an interdimensional television? Nobody. Because they're all dead. Except for Rose but she's not a television.
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So only half of the remaining humans with sisters can claim that. That's pretty good, I think
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So that was a wee bit awkward. I love the Dialoglog bubbles though. 
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Oh great. Now it's going to cut away and start Act 6 Act 2. (just a little more dialog please)
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Sure John can ask them, but how will they answer? They don't have sweet camper badges.
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I feel like every time I read a homestuck update, I close the window and then go " . . . wait, what?!"
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Mazerunner posted:Sure John can ask them, but how will they answer? They don't have sweet camper badges. It won't be a dialoglog, it'll be a Jadelog. So the Gift of Gab isn't required, obviously!
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Someone needs to avatar the gently caress out of the Gift of Gab chat bubbles, there.
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Motherfuckin' miracles  I have a prediction: All the new session kids have died in some way (real or dream self), and each act will end showing the centric character of that act died, with a hint somewhere how the kid centric to next act died. Sort of a grim reversal of the daisy chaining to get into the game. EDIT: There was an extra thing here. It is gone now. Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Dec 16, 2011 |
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Unlucky7 posted:I have a prediction: All the new session kids have died in some way (real or dream self), and each act will end showing the centric character of that act died, with a hint somewhere how the kid centric to next act died. Sort of a grim reversal of the daisy chaining to get into the game. Jane didn't actually die, you know.
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MrBims posted:Jane didn't actually die, you know. I must have missed something then.
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Unlucky7 posted:I must have missed something then. There was the explosion at the mailbox, then it cut away. It's entirely possible- even likely- that the explosion was a smokebomb or something nonlethal. We don't know yet because there hasn't been confirmation.
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MrBims posted:Jane didn't actually die, you know. Well, we can't be certain either way yet.
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Dolash posted:My favourite imaginable outcome is a three-year time-skip for the trolls and Rose and Dave as well, so that when we get back to them they all make passing reference and allusion to what they did in the three years we didn't see. Then Rose and Kanaya make one stiff, awkward reference to some adolescent experimentation that went on in those lost years and never reference it again, resulting in a massive outpouring of shipper frustration. But also because sometimes it is more fun when things are implied than actually going through the story motions of them. They are 13 years old you sick gently caress.
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King of Solomon posted:There was the explosion at the mailbox, then it cut away. It's entirely possible- even likely- that the explosion was a smokebomb or something nonlethal. We don't know yet because there hasn't been confirmation. Okay I can get "possible" but "likely"? We're talking about the troll empress here, what part of "assassination attempts" and "troll empress" makes nonlethality seem likely? 
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Maybe I should clarify - not only did she not die, she didn't even explode. She picked up both grey and red smoke pellets, remember? That was her using them as a distraction, like John waaay back in Act 1.
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MrBims posted:Maybe I should clarify - not only did she not die, she didn't even explode. She picked up both grey and red smoke pellets, remember? That was her using them as a distraction, like John waaay back in Act 1. That looks like A) Way more smoke than a bunch of pellets can output and B) It looks like a raging inferno post-bomb. What is this I don't even
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