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VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER
I'm betting a lot of LOTR and Hobbit set-pieces will be their own little thing. Like the Ent Grove, the Balin's Tomb fight, Bag End's Parties, other great Moria moments. So while I doubt we'll see a full Helm's Deep in any one set, I bet you'll be able to put them all together.
Minifig armies are gonna be a bitch to get though.

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MinionOfCthulhu
Oct 28, 2005

I got this title for free due to my proximity to an idiot who wanted to save $5 on an avatar by having someone else spend $9.95 instead.

Merchant of Death posted:

It's insulting, I love the technic sets/creator and old model team and there is nothing girly about them and I still buy them.

I don't mind the 'girl coloured' bricks but the minifig bothers the hell out of me. Plus flesh tone blasphamy its bad enough star wars started that.

Actually Lego started using flesh tones when it did a basketball set modeled after real players.

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

GidgetNomates posted:

Yeah, I feel the same, seems pretty dang patronising. When I was growing up me and pretty much all my friends had Lego sets. It never felt like a boys' toy, it was just an everyone toy.

Lets be fair though, the women in this thread are not an unbiased sample when it comes to LEGO. There are a LOT of little girls who are almost religiously devoted to barbie and MLP and really DON'T like boy-toys (whether this is intrinsic or from socialization is another matter and well beyond the remits of this thread). That's who these sets are meant to appeal to.

It is a bit of a shame as LEGO has always seemed like one of the most ungendered toys, but if it gets little girls into LEGO who would otherwise have snubbed it then it's not so bad. The main worry is girls who would have loved proper LEGO are given this by well meaning but misguided relatives

Oddly enough, Belville is still being sold. I'm not sure what gap this is filling, unless it's "more girly than regular LEGO but not as hideously stereotyped as the horse stables and princesses of Belville". In which case I guess it's a step in the right direction?

Pain Wizard
Mar 26, 2010
Personally I like the girly sets because those are the perfect colors for making my lego horse scale ponyville model!

Monster w21 Faces
May 11, 2006

"What the fuck is that?"
"What the fuck is this?!"

Fatkraken posted:

Lets be fair though, the women in this thread are not an unbiased sample when it comes to LEGO. There are a LOT of little girls who are almost religiously devoted to barbie and MLP and really DON'T like boy-toys (whether this is intrinsic or from socialization is another matter and well beyond the remits of this thread). That's who these sets are meant to appeal to.

It is a bit of a shame as LEGO has always seemed like one of the most ungendered toys, but if it gets little girls into LEGO who would otherwise have snubbed it then it's not so bad. The main worry is girls who would have loved proper LEGO are given this by well meaning but misguided relatives

Oddly enough, Belville is still being sold. I'm not sure what gap this is filling, unless it's "more girly than regular LEGO but not as hideously stereotyped as the horse stables and princesses of Belville". In which case I guess it's a step in the right direction?

You say that but I posted this on my Facebook and it has not gone down well. But then again the majority of the women I know are huge nerds or game devs.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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Lizard Combatant posted:

Flesh tone is fine for licensed sets where you want a representation of a real person.

Which is... sort of the point of the new design, yes? I have a really hard time finding anything strenuously objectionable about the alternate minifigs. I mean, yeah, the pink overload is kind of a concern, but if this was just about rolling out a line of more humanlike figs with generic city-ish sets emphasizing playability and more intimate spaces I wouldn't really see the harm in it.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
Still don't see why they couldn't just make minifigs with bumps on their chest pieces and have city sets like "pet shop" or "barbershop" that are gender non-specific but might have more young girl appeal than cops and firemen.

Hell, a pet shop set full of animal elements? I'm sure there are people that would buy like 5 copies of that just to have the spares.


edit: also dear Lego, after LOTR, please make Ninja Turtles sets and video games, thanks.

Light Gun Man fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Dec 16, 2011

Debunk This!
Apr 12, 2011


I remember someone earlier in the thread mentioning that this will be their last attempt and if it doesn't work they'll drop the girl theme forever.

*crosses fingers*

Monster w21 Faces
May 11, 2006

"What the fuck is that?"
"What the fuck is this?!"
Well this is their 6th attempt...

Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

Oh god LOTR LEGO, the wife and I will have to pool our money for every single one. She'll be happy to share the load though.

Starting with the Hobbit is perfect, I want a hobbit house, and a gollum riddle set, and a Smaug, and then every drat other thing they release.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

Reading the Bloomberg article really makes it sound like Lego has figured out the "girl set" thing. Looking at that graveyard picture, everything is either bad lego sets or... not lego sets at all.

The new stuff sounds like regular lego in different (admittedly stereotypical) colors with an emphasis on modularity (similar to the city modular build stuff, probably) and detailing.

VaultAggie
Nov 18, 2010

Best out of 71?
Well poo poo, there goes all my money. :( I want my lego Helms Deep.

GidgetNomates
May 6, 2010

I love this hobby:
stealing your mother's diary

Fatkraken posted:

Lets be fair though, the women in this thread are not an unbiased sample when it comes to LEGO. There are a LOT of little girls who are almost religiously devoted to barbie and MLP and really DON'T like boy-toys (whether this is intrinsic or from socialization is another matter and well beyond the remits of this thread). That's who these sets are meant to appeal to.

I loved Barbie as a kid. I was into all sorts of girly stuff as well. Most of my friends were also the typical little girl, which is why I mentioned that they all had regular Lego sets too. I don't understand why Lego has to be a boys toy, especially with sets like the Creator lighthouse that aren't the typical trucks and cops and whatever that could be seen as more targeted towards boys.

Manchild King
Oct 22, 2010
Misogynistic, self-absorbed, incredibly unfunny asshole. BLOCK ME or I will steal your face for creepy fetish porn!
Yeah, I think LOTR means R.I.P. Kingdoms :(

Best castle lego since the classic mid 80s to early 90s days in my mind. Really sad, but I've still got the Joust set to look forward to.

Light Gun Man posted:

edit: also dear Lego, after LOTR, please make Ninja Turtles sets and video games, thanks.
Why wait? Lego could axe Ninjago and make Licensed Ninja Turtles instead!

Lego, that was a joke, please don't, the licensing takeover is worrying me.

Has everyone else been following Lego Cuusoo? Frankly I think it's making the internet Lego fans look a bit stupid. Lets have a look at the current top 10 highest rated.

http://lego.cuusoo.com/discover

1. Lego Minecraft (First project to reach the 10,000 votes required for further review by lego!)
2. Cutlass Assault Mech Mk.1 (Admittedly pretty cool).
3. Minecraft (Again).
4. Minecraft Lego Blocks (Asking for multi colored bricks. Obviously cost prohibitive.)
5. Back to the Future (As if lego would want to license this without any recent movies to license)
6. Star Wars Dark Bucket (Literally 99 Stormtrooper minifigs and a Darth Vader. It would be funny if Lego made this but then charged $400 for the bucket).
7. Bring Back Bionicle (Ugh, just no).
8. Modular Western Town (Cool, but a total no brainer).
9. Macross VF-1 Valkyrie (Hurts its chances using the Macross license instead of just being a generic robot).
10. Leaning Tower of Pisa (Actually quite creative which is why it only has 468 votes).

Oh yeah, and it is supposed to be an idea for a set you come up with, yet half of them are entire themes. Was it like this when it was first run in Japan? Thousands of votes for sets based on anime and videogames?

I think it was good of Lego to give fans a chance to have some input on sets, but it's disappointing to see so many votes on such uncreative ideas and suggestions that don't have a chance in hell of being made for obvious reasons. That said there are lots of great ideas on there, they just aren't getting the votes.

So back to Minecraft, I give it a 10% chance of getting a set produced. It would be less but Mojang really seem to be behind it and Lego haven't flat out rejected it yet so I don't know.

Manchild King fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Dec 16, 2011

Stormageddon
Jan 16, 2008
I am actually just a sentient program made to shitpost, and am still getting my human speed calibration down.
One of the girl sets is the engineer/scientist. gently caress the haters, that's awesome

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

Manchild King posted:

So back to Minecraft, I give it a 10% chance of getting a set produced. It would be less but Mojang really seem to be behind it and Lego haven't flat out rejected it yet so I don't know.

To do true minecraft you'd have to do cubic bricks. 2x2 bricks are far from perfect cubes (height is 60% of width I think), so you'd either require entirely new pieces, or you'd just have to use regular bricks and lose the minecraftiness.

Stormageddon
Jan 16, 2008
I am actually just a sentient program made to shitpost, and am still getting my human speed calibration down.
Another thing about the girl sets isn't a much getting the girls to play with them, but getting parents to get them for them. compared to the space/fantasy ones, the city are the only gender neutral ones, and those always look so boring.

Shuppiluliumas
Nov 9, 2006

JohnWilkesGoonth posted:

Reading the Bloomberg article really makes it sound like Lego has figured out the "girl set" thing. Looking at that graveyard picture, everything is either bad lego sets or... not lego sets at all.

The new stuff sounds like regular lego in different (admittedly stereotypical) colors with an emphasis on modularity (similar to the city modular build stuff, probably) and detailing.

I share a lot of people's feelings about the "Lego is a boy's toy" and "need for girl specific sets" issue, but I had a fairly long conversation with people from Lego about this at Kidsfest this year. There is a really pervasive view in the market of Lego as being for boys, although people who know the product well know better. I agree it's pretty sad, but a lot of parents don't think or want to get a building toy for their girls, even when it's made really doll-like (e.g. Belville). Friends is probably the last push to succeed in this market, and I think it's their best effort yet and that article is a really interesting look at the issue.

I have to say, LotR is probably going to steal the thunder long term for me, but I am still pretty excited about the friends sets, figs and all. The new parts, new colors and detailed City-like sets open up tons of new possibilities. It's always been tough to build things with pink or purple in them because you mostly only have weird Belville parts to work with. Also, the figs are actually pretty minifig-like. Via Eurobricks





Not only do they come apart like minifigs, and are pretty close in height to them, but their hair is interchangeable with minifig hair.

Manchild King
Oct 22, 2010
Misogynistic, self-absorbed, incredibly unfunny asshole. BLOCK ME or I will steal your face for creepy fetish porn!
Looks closer to Megabloks figs than real minifigs to me. But I don't think Im really the target market so who cares what I say.

Stormageddon
Jan 16, 2008
I am actually just a sentient program made to shitpost, and am still getting my human speed calibration down.

Shuppiluliumas posted:






Not only do they come apart like minifigs, and are pretty close in height to them, but their hair is interchangeable with minifig hair.

The order of these two images has creeped me out harder than Lego ever have.

WHAT'S IN THE BOX?!

Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

Shuppiluliumas posted:



Whats that Buffalo Bill? A bag full of lotion?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_DVS_303kQ

InfinEight
Apr 25, 2007

What planet is this again?-- OH SHIT
Best thing about LOTR lego is the new title.

Sloppy
Apr 25, 2003

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere.

InfinEight posted:

Best thing about LOTR lego is the new title.

Ahaha, that is beautiful.

Flavor Bear
Jan 13, 2008

Bear Love is Best Love
Never saw so many goddamn new posts in one day.
Overshadowed by the LotR news, but

:stare:

I don't hate Ninjago any more.

rickiep00h
Aug 16, 2010

BATDANCE


The second wave has definitely made me a believer. They've gone past "what the hell is this thing?" to "that's pretty badass!"

Flavor Bear
Jan 13, 2008

Bear Love is Best Love

rickiep00h posted:

They've gone past "what the hell is this thing?"

No, they're still doing that.

Shuppiluliumas
Nov 9, 2006

Flavor Bear posted:

No, they're still doing that.

I assume your confusion is caused by the radiant badass-ness that thing gives off.

rickiep00h
Aug 16, 2010

BATDANCE


Flavor Bear posted:

No, they're still doing that.

:stare:

I stand corrected.

Merchant of Death
Jan 19, 2006
Cha-Ching

Shuppiluliumas posted:

I assume your confusion is caused by the radiant badass-ness that thing gives off.

I agree, it is so silly I have to buy it. The blue fighter jet just released is neat as well when you take away the gold swords.

Flavor Bear
Jan 13, 2008

Bear Love is Best Love
Open your eyes people!
The wrecking ball and boom account for like 30% of the plastic in that thing.

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




Flavor Bear posted:

Never saw so many goddamn new posts in one day.
Overshadowed by the LotR news, but

:stare:

I don't hate Ninjago any more.

those eyes are pretty clever!


also, above the fangs, are those 1x1 cheese wedges combined with a 1x2 plate? Neato! (someone will now link me to the bricklink page where I find out it's been in every set since 2002 and I personally own 300 of them)

e: Trans-purple?! :krad:

djfooboo
Oct 16, 2004




GidgetNomates posted:

Yeah, I feel the same, seems pretty dang patronising. When I was growing up me and pretty much all my friends had Lego sets. It never felt like a boys' toy, it was just an everyone toy.

Did you not want to trade minifigs or just forget? :ohdear:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3439442

einTier
Sep 25, 2003

Charming, friendly, and possessed by demons.
Approach with caution.

Flavor Bear posted:

Open your eyes people!
The wrecking ball and boom account for like 30% of the plastic in that thing.
After I was just lamenting the rather large unique and formed pieces in MegaBlocks new Porsche GT3. On a practical note, how does the stinger work in that creation? Anything it could sting would be blocked by that massive crane.


[edit]
Compare. One of these is a work of love and art. The other is just a glorified snap together kit. Sacrily enough, the MegaBlocks kit has a higher per piece part cost.

einTier fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Dec 16, 2011

Atmus
Mar 8, 2002

einTier posted:

After I was just lamenting the rather large unique and formed pieces in MegaBlocks new Porsche GT3. On a practical note, how does the stinger work in that creation? Anything it could sting would be blocked by that massive crane.

It's so it can still defend itself after the ninjas chop off the crane. You must have never fought a giant mechanized boss guy in a video game before.

GidgetNomates
May 6, 2010

I love this hobby:
stealing your mother's diary
With regards to that thing about Minecraft Lego sets, does anyone else feel like there's not much of a point? Most of Minecraft can be done with just...regular bricks. Just regular colored blocks, I don't really see what there is about it that would be special enough to license a set for. Like, if they released a Minecraft village or something like that, wouldn't it just be a collection of square bricks? I don't play Minecraft but I've seen quite a few videos of it and it seems like making a licensed set of a game made out of voxels would be a waste.

Pyroclastic
Jan 4, 2010

Sockser posted:

also, above the fangs, are those 1x1 cheese wedges combined with a 1x2 plate? Neato! (someone will now link me to the bricklink page where I find out it's been in every set since 2002 and I personally own 300 of them)

Nah, they've been out maybe a year. I think they started making their appearance with Alien Conquest. I can't find them on Peeron, though; they're not under any of the names I'd expect, and they take forever to get inventories for new sets into the DB.

As for the Scorpion Crane, the tail's mounted to a click-ball hinge so it can rotate out of vertical. So it can bust you up with the wrecking ball and then inject you with venom. Or acid. Probably highly acidic venom.

Merchant of Death
Jan 19, 2006
Cha-Ching
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=92946 Because you asked.

It is in 20 sets already and will probably end up all over the place.

wow speaking of new bricks http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=98283 that is going to get a fair bit of use for moc's when there is more colours.

Merchant of Death fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Dec 16, 2011

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

sick purple flames on that scorpion crane thing

Pyroclastic
Jan 4, 2010

Merchant of Death posted:

http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=92946 Because you asked.

It is in 20 sets already and will probably end up all over the place.

wow speaking of new bricks http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=98283 that is going to get a fair bit of use for moc's when there is more colours.

Oh, dammit, Peeron really, really needs a DB and search overhaul. It's so slow and antiquated... A search for slope 1 x 2 brings different results than slope 2 x 1.

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purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

GidgetNomates posted:

Yeah, I feel the same, seems pretty dang patronising. When I was growing up me and pretty much all my friends had Lego sets. It never felt like a boys' toy, it was just an everyone toy.

By making special girl legos and saying "THIS IS FOR GIRLS" they are effectively sending the message that every other Lego set is for boys. I'm sure they don't mean it to but that's how parents shop, they grab a pink box for the girls and whatever else becomes defaulted to boys.

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