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bigmcgaffney
Apr 19, 2009
Man the Others turned out to be a bunch of bitches, huh? Went from baby snatching bogeymen to a bunch of island hippies in no time at all.

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Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

Chunk posted:

He said something like "the hound died"

and then a guy matching his exact physical description is pointed out

"The Hound is at peace"

"Look, he's right over there digging a grave. See? Totally at peace."

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe
I'm betting the gurm does nothing with Sandor. I'm actually hoping he leaves him monking around. I don't want his character hosed up for me like gurm did to Tyrion.

edit: Unless he happens to bump into Dany, she spergs about her fire-breathing dragons, and she notices his scar moments before he smashes her face to a pulp with a mail-clad fist. and then he, Bronn and Syrio Forel join up and have merry adventures.

Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Dec 16, 2011

HoAssHo
Mar 10, 2005

:love::love::love:
I'm cool with that as long as they bring Arya along.

zocio
Nov 3, 2011
Ten years ago, a disgraced Lannister bannerman, a sell sword, a "dancing teacher" and a assasin were sent to the dungeons by the King's justice for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from the dungeons of King's Landing to the Riverlands. Today, still wanted by the realm, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The W-Team. Starring Sandor Clegane as B.A. Hound, Bronn as his himself, Syrio Forel as The Teacher and Jaqen h'ghar as Face, with guest appearances by Moqorro as "The Priest" and Quiburn as "The Healer". :rock:

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

bigmcgaffney posted:

Man the Others turned out to be a bunch of bitches, huh? Went from baby snatching bogeymen to a bunch of island hippies in no time at all.

What I like is that in ACoK there's this giant gently caress-off army of Ice Spiders and Wildlings, then in Book 3 there's a fuckton of Others going about.... and they're all basically pushed back. I mean yeah they're building up to a siege on the Wall, but honestly it seems like Westeros would be able to hold them off fairly well and we're relying on the fear of the unknown to leave these as a threat.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

mind the walrus posted:

What I like is that in ACoK there's this giant gently caress-off army of Ice Spiders and Wildlings, then in Book 3 there's a fuckton of Others going about.... and they're all basically pushed back. I mean yeah they're building up to a siege on the Wall, but honestly it seems like Westeros would be able to hold them off fairly well and we're relying on the fear of the unknown to leave these as a threat.

5 books in (3 + 1/2 + 1/2), and the others are still irrelevant south of the wall.

geeves
Sep 16, 2004

zocio posted:

Ten years ago, a disgraced Lannister bannerman, a sell sword, a "dancing teacher" and a assasin were sent to the dungeons by the King's justice for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from the dungeons of King's Landing to the Riverlands. Today, still wanted by the realm, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The W-Team. Starring Sandor Clegane as B.A. Hound, Bronn as his himself, Syrio Forel as The Teacher and Jaqen h'ghar as Face, with guest appearances by Moqorro as "The Priest" and Quiburn as "The Healer". :rock:

EXT. SEPT - MOMENTS LATER

GOLD CLOAKS loose FLAMING ARROWS as the SEPT STAFF rushes into the CHINOOK CARRIAGE. Horses anxious to run.

Bronn spots Al-Mahdi with Face hanging back on the steps.

BRONN
What in the seven hells are you doing here?

JAQEN
Trying to convince Baelor here he needs to get out while he still can…

AL-MAHDI
(desperate)
If I leave our heritage to the Dothraki, we won't be a country anymore.

BRONN
Yeah. Listen, either you come with us or my man Face here…
(nods at Jaqen)
…is going to have to stay with you and possibly get disfigured by a wildfire explosion….

JAQEN
Would you want to be responsible for disfiguring this face? I mean I'm close with B.A. the Hound, but I don't want my face to be confused with his.

BRONN
I didn't think so.

He grabs Al-Mahdi under the elbow and leads him to the CARRIAGE

BRONN (CONT'D)
Get Al-Mahdi out of here. We'll take care of the artifacts…

AL-MAHDI
This is insane.

SYRIO
Just so. Insane is what you get for ten thousand dragons and hour.

Al-Mahdi looks at Bronn as he closes the door on him, desperate.

AL-MAHDI
Qohor's soul is in your hands.

B.A. THE HOUND
I'll steer

BRONN
You know how to handle a carriage?

B.A. THE HOUND
If she's got a horse and can't breathe fire, I can handle her

BRONN
All right then.

He slides in next to Jaqen as The Hound takes the reigns.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe
SYRIO
(clicking sound with his tongue)
(Looks into camera)
I should have run off with Arya.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
*Varys lights a cigar*

I love it when a plan comes together

geeves
Sep 16, 2004

INT: COURTROOM

King Tommen sits on the Iron Throne with his KINGSGAURD in front of him. Qyburn enters and Queen Regent Cersei looks towards him.

CERSEI
Maester Qyburn, is the Judge Advocate ready to proceed.

QYBURN
Yes, your Grace

Bronn watches silently as a 6-foot hooded figure walks awkwardly into the room bows before Tommen and Cersei. The figure lowers his hood, his face hidden from the audience. Behind him Bronn is noticeably disturbed and amused.

CERSEI
Judge Advocate Pounce, you may begin.

SER POUNCE
Bronn, you were ordered to evacuate with your men. You disobeyed those orders and stayed behind. 'Operation Friends of Liberty' was your chance for larceny. You planned it all along, did you?

BRONN
As a sellsword, you learn the same lesson over and over. Nothing ever comes together the way you plan it.

Ser Pounce walks back. Stops. Turns.

SER POUNCE
One last question. Isn't it true you've traveled extensively beyond The Wall?

Bronn just stares at Ser Pounce, shrugging.

LATER: The Hound and Bronn stand in front of the King and Queen Regent. Jaqen is conspicuously missing.

CERSEI
On the twenty-six counts. the King finds you guilty as charged. The King, however, is merciful and you will serve our your sentences with the Night's Watch.

BANG, gavel down. the COURTROOM bursts in to chaos. LITTLEFINGER is suddenly standing right in front of Bronn

B.A. THE HOUND
We were set up. And would been found guilty even without Tyrell's testimony.

LITTLEFINGER
You were given a fair trial.

Littlefinger reaches out. Takes off The Hound's helm. An insult, and a humiliation.

B.A. THE HOUND
I'll be coming for that.

LITTLEFINGER
Somehow I don't think you will.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Fog Tripper posted:

5 books in (3 + 1/2 + 1/2), and the others are still irrelevant south of the wall.

The wall's gonna fall though.

I mean if another book ever came out, that is.

rockamiclikeavandal
Jul 2, 2010

He was a sellsword and good at his job but he committed the ultimate sin and testified against other sellswords gone bad. Sellswords that tried to kill him but got the woman he loved instead. Framed for murder, now he prowls the badlands, an outlaw hunting outlaws, a bounty hunter, a RENEGADE.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

rockamiclikeavandal posted:

He was a sellsword and good at his job but he committed the ultimate sin and testified against other sellswords gone bad. Sellswords that tried to kill him but got the woman he loved instead. Framed for murder, now he prowls the badlands, an outlaw hunting outlaws, a bounty hunter, a RENEGADE.

This would be infinitely better if it was Sandor Clegane.

bigmcgaffney
Apr 19, 2009
Snitches get stiches, kids.

Jaqen is Keyser Soze.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

rockamiclikeavandal posted:

He was a sellsword and good at his job but he committed the ultimate sin and testified against other sellswords gone bad. Sellswords that tried to kill him but got the woman he loved instead. Framed for murder, now he prowls the badlands, an outlaw hunting outlaws, a bounty hunter, a RENEGADE.

No chance at victory, he's lost his liberty and the only woman that he loved.

On through the night he rides on his raging horse made of steel. Nothing can save you now, on the ground before him you'll kneel.

Renegade, PI.

nuncle jimbo
Apr 3, 2009

:pcgaming:
I would read 800 pages or whatever the gently caress of clegane loving people up and then proselytizing at them nine times before i read dance again

Contra Calculus
Nov 6, 2009

Gravy Boat 2k

uncle jimbo posted:

I would read 800 pages or whatever the gently caress of clegane loving people up and then proselytizing at them nine times before i read dance again

I'm pretty sure this is what A Clash of Kings was about... or did I read a different version?

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

bigmcgaffney posted:

Well, Daario has a blue moustache, Jon Connington might be gay, umm... Victarion is cool in this book?
"Might" be? He's basically Brüno. In fact, Sacha Baron-Cohen should play him in the tv series.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Joramun posted:

"Might" be? He's basically Brüno. In fact, Sacha Baron-Cohen should play him in the tv series.

That might salvage the half season that AFFC and ADWD should take.

nuncle jimbo
Apr 3, 2009

:pcgaming:

Contra Calculus posted:

I'm pretty sure this is what A Clash of Kings was about... or did I read a different version?

drat, no wonder I liked that one

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

IRQ posted:

That might salvage the half season that AFFC and ADWD should take.

Cersei's arc over AFFC and ADWD alone could fill an entire season, and should have if only they had gotten a better actress than Lena Headey for the part. I can't really see her convincingly pulling any of it off, neither the mental and political self-destruction nor the Scarlet Lettering, but maybe she'll surprise us.

bigmcgaffney
Apr 19, 2009

Joramun posted:

Cersei's arc over AFFC and ADWD alone could fill an entire season, and should have if only they had gotten a better actress than Lena Headey for the part. I can't really see her convincingly pulling any of it off, neither the mental and political self-destruction nor the Scarlet Lettering, but maybe she'll surprise us.

Remember that slo-mo sex scene with the rippling breasts in 300, because

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene

Joramun posted:

Cersei's arc over AFFC and ADWD alone could fill an entire season, and should have if only they had gotten a better actress than Lena Headey for the part. I can't really see her convincingly pulling any of it off, neither the mental and political self-destruction nor the Scarlet Lettering, but maybe she'll surprise us.

I'm surprised there are people who defend her portrayal of Cersei. She really needs to step it up for this next season.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Azure_Horizon posted:

I'm surprised there are people who defend her portrayal of Cersei. She really needs to step it up for this next season.

Then it won't surprise you that I think she's great in the part. I mean, I don't like the tv show, but whatever. What's wrong with Lena Headey?

bigmcgaffney
Apr 19, 2009
Can't wait to see Lena Headey do the Walk of Shame, wonder if will stick to the character and get some stretch marks if she doesn't have any, or else my immersion and my boner will dissipate into vehement internet rage.

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back

bigmcgaffney posted:

Can't wait to see Lena Headey do the Walk of Shame, wonder if will stick to the character and get some stretch marks if she doesn't have any, or else my immersion and my boner will explode with vehement internet rage.

You're welcome.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.
I'm curious to see if Headey is dedicated enough to her "craft" to pull a RobMcElhenney for the AFFC season, or if she'll just wear a fatsuit.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Her "craft"?

Maytag
Nov 4, 2006

it's enough that it all be filled with that majestic sadness that is the pleasure of tragedy.
I too would like to know what's wrong with her. I thought she did fine.

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

I've just realised Gurm probably wrote Cersei's walk of shame scene just because he wanted to see it in the show.

Niccy Bones
Mar 27, 2011
I think Gurm might just have a boner for humiliation porn confirm/deny?

Ross
May 25, 2001

German Moses
I recall reading somewhere that they intentionally toned Cercei down from the books to make her a more sympathetic character in the show.

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011

Ross posted:

I recall reading somewhere that they intentionally toned Cercei down from the books to make her a more sympathetic character in the show.

That's probably a good idea because it did get tiring reading about how horribly, irredeemably stupid and evil Cersei was every time her chapter came up

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

Yeah, it's clear from that heart to heart she has with Robert that they're deliberately making her different to the books.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

Ross posted:

I recall reading somewhere that they intentionally toned Cercei down from the books to make her a more sympathetic character in the show.
I don't buy that, sounds like just a lame excuse. Why would a character on a show like this even need to be sympathetic in the first place? That's not what people watch for. This is Westeros, not Pawnee. Look at a show like Mad Men where some of the most popular characters (Don, Peggy, Roger) are also some of the biggest assholes. It's evident Headey didn't read even a single letter of any of the books and probably only showed up to collect an easy paycheck, which is put in even starker contrast by the stunning transformation her co-star Mark Addy underwent for his part (it blew my mind when it dawned on me Robert Baratheon was the bumbling dad from Still Standing). Though to be fair, some of the blame falls on the casting director's shoulders as well since she was fine in Sarah Connor Chronicles but simply completely miscast here, the one blemish on an otherwise pretty much flawlessly cast ensemble.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Is it a problem if someone hasn't read the source material?

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.
Not necessarily, but it is when the discrepancy becomes so big that page and screen version might as well have been two completely different characters. It's still an adaptation after all and not a wholly original teleplay.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

Maytag posted:

I too would like to know what's wrong with her. I thought she did fine.

I too. The only thing wrong with her character wasn't the acting, but rather how she was directed to be a hell of a lot more likeable. In truth, all the characters felt watered down. I wouldn't blame headly. She's at least entertaining to watch ( as a straight guy).

Vertigus posted:

That's probably a good idea because it did get tiring reading about how horribly, irredeemably stupid and evil Cersei was every time her chapter came up

So he wrote something even more so with Ramsay. :colbert:

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Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

Fog Tripper posted:

So he wrote something even more so with Ramsay. :colbert:
I've been thinking about that too lately, and wondering if he could still salvage Ramsay as an actual character instead of the caricature he is now like he did with Jaime and Melisandre for example, i.e. by giving him a POV chapter. Probably not, but it would still at least be a nice writing challenge.

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