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Nick Buntline posted:So I think it's a bit of a misnomer to say that everyone has the "luxury" of copy-pasting. Every comic can do that (just like every poet can follow e.e. cummings and not bother with capital letters), but doing so has specific benefits, drawbacks, effects on aesthetics and tone, and so forth, and those need to be taken into account before the decision is made. There are certainly times where asset re-use is perfectly fine and acceptable and potentially even beneficial (arguably in situations where, like this, it evokes similarities with other forms of digital media), but there are also plenty of times where doing so would be counter to the artist's goals. Nick Buntline posted:The difference between Ryan North and Tim Buckley isn't their relative proficiency at re-using art assets, it's that Ryan North is making a conscious aesthetic decision while Tim Buckely is a lazy sack of poo poo who refuses to learn basic artistic concepts. loquacius posted:Well, being linked on Bethesda's Twitter account sort of stole a lot of this post's thunder, but it's also kinda cool that Three Panel Soul linked Prequel after running a Skyrim strip (involving a Khajiit). Some more webcomic props to throw on the big pile! Though today I've been getting an influx of new readers from Reddit. The guy who helped me with the website CSS posted the earflop gif there with the simple caption "Khajiit mages". It was my first time getting over 10k unique visitors in a single day. Kazerad fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Dec 10, 2011 |
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Dec 10, 2011 11:50
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Haledjian posted:
It really is. 
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Dec 11, 2011 07:34
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oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...
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That's probably one of the funniest TES-related images I've ever seen.
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Dec 12, 2011 03:09
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Calling it now: Kazerad is going to have a successful line of plush toys for sale less than a year from now
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Dec 12, 2011 09:00
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Haledjian posted:Calling it now: Kazerad is going to have a successful line of plush toys for sale less than a year from now My understanding of Copyright law is kinda murky, but would that even be feasible without getting into trouble with Bethesda?
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Dec 12, 2011 09:14
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Pakled posted:My understanding of Copyright law is kinda murky, but would that even be feasible without getting into trouble with Bethesda? Without expensive lawyers to argue that he's really 'Hooded cultist man' with no ties to any Bethesda IP no, probably not.
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Dec 12, 2011 13:59
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Volmarias posted:Without expensive lawyers to argue that he's really 'Hooded cultist man' with no ties to any Bethesda IP no, probably not. The Minecraft guy is getting sued by Bethesda over his new game being called "Scrolls". I very much doubt Kaz could sell Prequel merch.
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Dec 12, 2011 15:16
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So then clearly the only option is to develop officially licensed Bethesda swag and take a cut.
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Dec 12, 2011 17:36
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Well, considering that the Elder Scrolls property tried (is still trying?) to branch out into books, it wouldn't be out of the question if they had an interest in a line of official comic books. Might be something to consider.
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Android Blues posted:The Minecraft guy is getting sued by Bethesda over his new game being called "Scrolls". I very much doubt Kaz could sell Prequel merch. Notch actually won that case, as he should have. I don't think Bethesda would have much legal basis to a lawsuit against selling Prequel merchandise that don't explicitly use Bethesda characters. Trying to sell Prequel as a book would be a problem, but not selling a Katia plush since the only part of her that Bethesda owns is the name of her race, which wouldn't need to be advertised at all. They would have to prove that their intellectual property or future possible profits were being harmed by the existence of a cat person - of which there are no shortage of, both copyright and not. Think of the difference between comparing a stuffed Pikachu to counterfeits, and comparing a Warhammer 40k Space Marine to StarCraft Space Marines. In the first example, Nintendo has ownership of the likeness of a uniquely created character, while in the second example, both Games Workshop and Blizzard are using nameless characters with similar physical features, without a sole originator owning the likeness of a guy in armor with a gun. MrBims fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Dec 12, 2011 |
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Dec 12, 2011 21:02
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Hell, its has to be more legal then the King Dee Dee plush that the guy who makes Brawl in the Family sells http://brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/store/dollpic02/
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Dec 12, 2011 23:21
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You're an interesting dude, Kazerad. It's pretty neat hearing you talk about gaining fans and building a readership from a purely economic point of view. Sure, some people might say its disingenuous, manipulative, mercenary, whatever, but I think you're just being real and I admire that. More to the point, I like Prequel a lot too, even if it does come off as a bit sex-negative at times. The art is attractive, and it's got some pretty drat original characters for a work of fan fiction. I also appreciate how you hold characters accountable for their flaws - it seemed from the comments that some readers were pissed that Katia wouldn't do certain things even when commanded to, like muster the courage to fight Gro-upp, or resist the urge to drink from that smashed wine bottle. But anyone paying attention to the story would have known Katia wouldn't be able to do those things. I'm glad you chose to keep her character consistent, so that if maybe she is ever able to do those kinds of things in the future it will actually mean something.
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Dec 15, 2011 21:29
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Are you guys really asking for a plush catgirl I mean really
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Yonic Symbolism posted:Are you guys really asking for a plush catgirl Yes. 
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Dec 15, 2011 22:01
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Clearly the solution is, if a plush catgirl is ever made, hidden in the stuffing is a small sheet of paper. On that paper is a picture of Katia crying.
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Kgummy posted:Clearly the solution is, if a plush catgirl is ever made, hidden in the stuffing is a small sheet of paper. On that paper is a picture of Katia crying. Most of the people who would be likely to find such a thing would probably consider it an incentive. But some DIY craftsperson is going to try to clean up and repair their plush Katia at some point and wind up traumatized.
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Dec 16, 2011 23:04
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I'd think there's be a greater demand for a Legion Horse plushie, with realistic drawn-on angry eyebrows.
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Dec 16, 2011 23:09
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So, due to this thread, I stayed up until 5:30 in the morning reading through the comic and thread.  Good comic so far, and I'm eager to see more.Haledjian posted:
Also this.
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Haledjian posted:Calling it now: Kazerad is going to have a successful line of plush toys for sale less than a year from now I got burned on fiesta cat, never again!
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Sindow posted:Hello I made these for easier story reading and thought you would enjoy them Just wanted to add, ever since I wanted to make a MSPA styled comic, I was wondering why nobody ever did something similar to Kid Radd. Great minds think alike! EDIT: (The great minds thing doesn't mean me, it means the kid radd guy (you know, before I get accused of being an egotist))
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Dec 18, 2011 12:32
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So apparently, Prequel got a mention on Bethesda's Facebook page, and consequently the Prequel site went down for a bit. *E* Or rather, Bethesda mentioned Prequel on the Elder Scrolls' Facebook page.
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IronSaber posted:So apparently, Prequel got a mention on Bethesda's Facebook page, and consequently the Prequel site went down for a bit. Have you now seen how much easier it was to write in the active voice? "From the makers of MS Paint Adventures, follow/contribute to the story of a Khajiit trying to make it in the world." Homestuck is just the warmup for Prequel.
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Dec 20, 2011 18:51
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MrBims posted:Have you now seen how much easier it was to write in the active voice? Someone might want to inform them this is not a true thing.
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I think this is the best 404 page I've ever seen.
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Dec 20, 2011 21:09
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Kazerad is Hussie's alt. ego you heard it here first folks
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Dec 20, 2011 21:13
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Update.
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Dec 21, 2011 04:32
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Wrist Watch posted:Update. Yeah, pretty much this.
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Wrist Watch posted:Update. I honestly thought the ball gag was pretty well executed.  I'm worse than hitler Mywhatacleanturtle fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Dec 21, 2011 |
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Dec 21, 2011 05:01
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 Well, that was an adventure! The site should be all better now, and sufficiently shielded from any similar occurrences in the future. It could probably survive a full-on slashdotting right now if it had to. Commutator posted:You're an interesting dude, Kazerad. It's pretty neat hearing you talk about gaining fans and building a readership from a purely economic point of view. Sure, some people might say its disingenuous, manipulative, mercenary, whatever, but I think you're just being real and I admire that. Thanks! Being called an interesting dude is pretty much the biggest compliment I can think of. As for the sex-negative thing, I know I've said it before but Katia's views do not necessarily reflect my own. But even then, I think "sex-negative" is a somewhat misleading label for her views. A lot of her statements border on outright slut-shaming, but at the same time she has only been shown applying them to herself. In a lot of ways you could compare it to a depressed, middle-aged accountant who looks back on his life and says "I could've been a musician". He clearly doesn't value accounting very much... but would it be right to tell him this belief was wrong, or construe this as an attack on accounting in general? Yeah, I just made an analogy where accounting represents sex. But it's an apt one. Katia's sex-negativity doesn't seem to come from any ethical beliefs, but rather from a dissatisfaction with her old lifestyle. A lot of it clearly stems from social reasons: she wants people to respect her more than they did. You could berate her for caring so much about the opinions of others, or you could praise her for going after something she wants. Both are valid ways of looking at the situation. Even though it's used as a pretty major part of her character, I think it's safe to say the comic isn't really making a statement one way or the other about sex. Katia is clearly trying to dissociate herself from it, but at the same time she is a depressed, neurotic mess and her views should probably not be taken as gospel. It would probably be construed as much less sex-negative if she chose her words more tactfully, but giving her internal thoughts a sterile, politically correct vocabulary just seems unrealistic. After all, this is a woman who hates herself. And I'll be perfectly honest: I don't trust myself to talk intelligently about issues of sex positivity/negativity. I just don't know enough about the different arguments and research. When I'm writing in-character I can have Katia cluelessly bumble through these deep topics, but I wouldn't want to make any actual statements about them unless I did a whole lot of reading beforehand. Yonic Symbolism posted:Are you guys really asking for a plush catgirl Guys, plush toys (and merchandising in general) are a lot of work and probably never going to happen. Though I did see a great idea on 4chan: a Katia plushie that cries when you squeeze it, and is refilled via a booze bottle. Kazerad fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Dec 21, 2011 |
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Kazerad posted:Though I did see a great idea on 4chan: a Katia plushie that cries when you squeeze it, and is refilled via LUCK, HAPPY THOUGHTS AND NICE THINGS. 
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I assumed the sex-negativity didn't have much to do with Katia's own views on sex, more that it only really comes up in the story as a way for the main character to suffer more shame, misery, and personal failure - nobody's going to think what happened with Ghro-Upp or Dmitri were good times. That plus her apparently miserable past, alcohol addiction, and supposed former cult membership all sort of imply sex only exists as a danger for Katia to avoid, and one the readers must try to shepherd her away from with their suggestions. It's another bad thing that can happen to her, with no chance of being a good thing, which I guess is what might cause people to see a story as casting sex itself in a negative light. Then again it's not really the focus of the story and likely to promote nasty derails, not to mention that sometimes bad things just plain happen to characters and it isn't meant to be any higher commentary than that. Dolash fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Dec 21, 2011 |
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Are we going to find out if Katia has CHIM or something similar?
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Pollyanna posted:Are we going to find out if Katia has CHIM or something similar? The hell is CHIM?
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Volmarias posted:The hell is CHIM? "Urbandictionary.com posted:Way of naming the sexual relationship blatantly existent between Cheryl Tweedy and Kimberley Walsh from Girls Aloud. Which would seem to indicate that Pollyanna thinks Katia/Quill-Weave is going to grab the other's rear end and exchange a knowing look or something.  I don't see why Kazerad would as IIRC he's already said that he finds that his audience likes it when he teases them with the possibility and then takes the rug out from under that idea rather than having consistent and unrefuted allusions to there being a thing between the two; plus, this would very quickly take it into fanservice territory and this kind of comic isn't going to benefit qualitatively from that kind of thing.
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I don't know if you're serious, but no, that's not it at all. It's an Elder Scrolls thing. (Katia doesn't even have the usual player character perks of, say, getting a perfect wolf pelt just by opening the dead wolf as a container, so it's probably difficult to get much further away from CHIM than she is right now.)
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Wow, humans really loving love corn.
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Hamiltonian Bicycle posted:I don't know if you're serious, but no, that's not it at all. It's an Elder Scrolls thing. I read that entire OP and still have no idea what the hell CHIM is.
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