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Lone Rogue posted:I guess you've never heard of Dynamite Kid...
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ABOUT DRUGS posted:With all the steroid use back in those days, I'm actually shocked that there aren't more stories of serious confrontations backstage. How did they manage to get roided up in that kind of locker room, spend every night pretending to want to kill each other, and not wind up with serious assaults and the like? Even just a too-stiff chop or a sloppy suplex could have sent one of them into a fury. For one she ended up leaving the business and afraid for her life in the early 90s due to years of his psychological (and probably physical) abuse.
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ABOUT DRUGS posted:Do you mean him and Rougeau? I remember it (and other stories of Dynamite Kid being an rear end in a top hat), but I'm saying there was a locker room full of steroid freaks that run the risk of hurting each other badly as part of their job, and people weren't sent to the hospital every show. Roids and coke do not leave you cool, calm and collected like dat dubblo sebben, and even with the bad blood between a lot of wrestlers it seems like violence wasn't a regular occurrence backstage. That surprises me. It shouldn't. Steroids doesn't make you a psycho. It just makes you more of what you are. Strong people become stronger, angry people become angrier. It's an injection of synthetic testosterone. The idea of roid rage has become so comically misinterpreted by society that I don't blame you for thinking that mixing these guys with coke is going to cause a whirling dirvish of violence but that's not really the case. There's always a caste system. The reason you wouldn't have a bunch of lunatics starting fights with everyone is like I said, there's always someone tougher in that locker room. There were a few bullies like Dynamite Kid but you'll notice that Kid never tried to fight Harley Race, Haku, Andre the Giant or Bad News Brown. Hell, he picked Jacques because Raymond was a legit boxer. In the end he still got his and it got Jacques eternal respect from the guys who were not tough enough to stand up to Dynamite Kid. Though one wonders how much Honky Tonk Man deserved his shots.
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Dec 31, 2011 00:26
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apsouthern posted:Are there any other moves that were created by happy accident? I know the DDT was one, but there's presumably more. AJ Styles said that the Styles clash was a botched something or other from when he was a backyarder, if I'm not mixing up my stories.
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Dec 31, 2011 01:42
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Can't find a source but iirc he said he was watching some kids backyard wrestling and came up with the Styles Clash when one kid was trying to do a powerbomb but couldn't lift his opponent all the way up.
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Dec 31, 2011 01:54
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Lone Rogue posted:Though one wonders how much Honky Tonk Man deserved his shots. A lot. Honky Tonk is a huge pussy who's also bitter for no reason, since he had a pretty good career and makes bank on the indies (he's one of the only guys who does).
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Dec 31, 2011 02:53
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Who all has made a turn this year? My son and I were trying to figure it out... Alicia Fox Natalya Beth Phoenix Christian Mark Henry Sheamus The Usos? Justin Gabriel? Ezekiel Jackson Zack Ryder Ted Dibiase Kane (I guess) Did the Big Show turn? Literally can't remember... R-Truth Did we miss anybody? Doesn't that seem like a lot?
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Dec 31, 2011 04:14
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Forgot Khali but that hardly counts. Oh yeah, and CM Punk. Just cant think of a year with so many turns.
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CombineThresher posted:A lot. Honky Tonk is a huge pussy who's also bitter for no reason, since he had a pretty good career and makes bank on the indies (he's one of the only guys who does).
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Swamp Rapist posted:Just cant think of a year with so many turns. I'm sure the attitude era had way more per year.
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Web Jew.0 posted:Can't find a source but iirc he said he was watching some kids backyard wrestling and came up with the Styles Clash when one kid was trying to do a powerbomb but couldn't lift his opponent all the way up. If my timeline is correct, Vic Grimes was using a Styles Clash before AJ even debuted
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Dec 31, 2011 15:58
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The DDT was also born out of a botch, according to Jake.
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Mystery Opponent posted:If my timeline is correct, Vic Grimes was using a Styles Clash before AJ even debuted I think you'll find he liked to be called Grimey
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apsouthern posted:I think you'll find he liked to be called Grimey You like this
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Dec 31, 2011 16:43
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Moose Bigelow posted:You like this No, I don't.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:I'm sure the attitude era had way more per year. The attitude era had more turns in one show.
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Dec 31, 2011 17:27
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Yeah, 1999 saw face/heel turns for Vince, Shane, Stephanie, Triple H, The Rock, kane, Xpac, Road Dogg, Billy Gunn, Al Snow, Chyna, Sable, Ken Shamrock, The Big Show, Test, Mark Henry, Chris Jericho, Edge, Christian, The Hardyz, 2 Cool, Bob Holly, The Acolytes and probably at least a dozen more.
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apsouthern posted:I think you'll find he liked to be called Grimey Vince should end every promo with "Now I'm going to my mansion to eat lobster!"
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Dec 31, 2011 17:38
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:HTM loves Claudio and helped get him to the US so he's alright with me. Oh yeah, forgot about that. But who doesn't love Claudio? He's one of the nicest people ever.
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Dec 31, 2011 23:41
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Honky tonk man strikes me as a man who went through all the political bullshit of the wrestling world and gives no fucks as to who he offends anymore. His shoots are always entertaining and he addresses insults thrown at him. Favourite was him talking about Arn Anderson saying that Honky Tonk would have been nowhere without Hulk Hogan. He says something to the effect of "True, we all get help from friends in the business and you weren't anything but Ric Flair's Dogsbody." I like him.
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Has there ever been a time when the WWE had a younger and more promising talent pool than it's pushing right now? How did it actually pan out?
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Lucyjin posted:Has there ever been a time when the WWE had a younger and more promising talent pool than it's pushing right now? How did it actually pan out? WWE has kinda had a young-ish talent pool for the better part of ten years, if that tells you anything.
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Lucyjin posted:Has there ever been a time when the WWE had a younger and more promising talent pool than it's pushing right now? How did it actually pan out? But there's a huge cluster of established guys from 30-35. e: And there's a very talented handful under 30. I just don't trust WWE not to gently caress them over. UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jan 1, 2012 |
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Lucyjin posted:Has there ever been a time when the WWE had a younger and more promising talent pool than it's pushing right now? How did it actually pan out? Younger? Probably not. Usually guys would be brought in to WWF/E and WCW when they were in their 30s after proving themselves in the indies, Mexico, Japan, etc. Randy Savage was 32 when he was brought in to the WWF, for example. In terms of promising...well I'm not sure I can name more than 3 or 4 people on WWE's roster that are promising. And they've pretty much ruined one of them (Barrett)
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Lucyjin posted:Has there ever been a time when the WWE had a younger and more promising talent pool than it's pushing right now? How did it actually pan out? 2000 had the Rock, Edge, Christian, the Hardys, X-Pac, Big Show, Essa Rios and Taka in their mid-late 20s. Angle, Regal, Jericho, Triple H, Eddie, JBL, Kane and Benoit were only 30-33. In 2002 all those guys were a little older but you also get Brock and Cena and Orton and all the young talent from WCW like Rey and Billy Kidman.
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Omally posted:Didn't Haku bite a man's nose off during a bar brawl? Or is that the joke? quote:This leads to the question fans have been wondering about for years. Through second hand stories and whispers, we've all heard about Haku once biting someone's nose off during a fight defending the business. Did it really happen? Was it just a tall tale? As the ClubWWI.com interview continued, James Guttman asked and expected to hear it was an exaggeration. Spoiler alert - it wasn't.
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Now he's a car spa manager.  http://www.davidmaustoyota.com/dealership/staff.htm
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Bocc Kob posted:Now he's a car spa manager. Linda Cooke is baked beyond comprehension... Also, a smiling Haku still looks like he is going to kill someone.
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poo poo, I want a job there. Everyone's a manager.
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Nut Bunnies posted:Younger? Probably not. Usually guys would be brought in to WWF/E and WCW when they were in their 30s after proving themselves in the indies, Mexico, Japan, etc. Randy Savage was 32 when he was brought in to the WWF, for example. Punk, Bryan, Ziggler, Swagger, Sheamus, Cody, Barrett, Ryder? How is Barrett ruined? He's on the up.
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Szmitten posted:Punk, Bryan, Ziggler, Swagger, Sheamus, Cody, Barrett, Ryder? How is Barrett ruined? He's on the up. He's being pushed as a toward-the-top kind of guy now and it's great but imagine how much better off he'd be if the entire Nexus/Corre angle and everything that followed didn't make him look like a total schmuck
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Karmine posted:He's being pushed as a toward-the-top kind of guy now and it's great but imagine how much better off he'd be if the entire Nexus/Corre angle and everything that followed didn't make him look like a total schmuck Agreed. It's hard to give kudos to the WWE for doing a good job repairing something they never should have broke. Barrett might not be ruined but even with his recent super push, isn't anywhere near as over as he could have been.
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For perspective: For one night (I guess the week after the attack on Cena), wasn't Wade Barrett treated by the crowd as "the ace" top heel?
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Barrett and the Nexus were amazingly over after the attack on Cena. If you have archives, go read the Raw GDT thread from that episode - he was immediately treated like a big deal. Personally, I wanted Barrett to win the title immediately after that.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Barrett and the Nexus were amazingly over after the attack on Cena. If you have archives, go read the Raw GDT thread from that episode - he was immediately treated like a big deal. That was a classic WWE gently caress up. Orton v. Barrett with Cena as referee. If Barrett doesn't win the title Cena gets fired. Barrett doesn't win, Cena doesn't (really) get fired. That was one of my big "Why do I watch this poo poo?" moments. poo poo. Barrett main evented a Pay-Per-View. That's how hot he was.
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