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Jan 1, 2012 19:07
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Crankit posted:However, I don't get any adverts on 4oD at all, I'm using firefox and adblock though, everyone I've heard complain about those adverts has been using chrome, can I ask if that's the case for you too?
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Jan 1, 2012 20:04
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Crankit posted:Black Mirror, I felt that the first was OK, but the second one I didn't like, it felt like a joke played against the viewers, answering the unasked question of "What if The Matrix were British, and by extension a little bit poo poo".
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Jan 1, 2012 21:00
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You think they laid on the Melodrama thick enough with Eastenders?
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Jan 1, 2012 21:12
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Graviton v2 posted:Im talking about the commercial breaks, not pop-ups or anything. Im on latest firefox but after a check i dont have adblock in yet, this is a new install. I'll stick it in and give it a try, im dubious as to whether it it do anything, how do it know? Akuma posted:What the gently caress? Explain. I may have missed something on black mirror, I freely admit I didn't give it 100% of my attention, but it seemed to be a society existing in some kind of computer controlled reality, and everyone was cycling to power the thing, he tries to escape but ends up in a higher resolution computer room.
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Jan 1, 2012 21:13
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Crankit posted:I don't get any commercial breaks on 4oD, so presumably it streams them from another server which adblock knows about? You missed something.
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Jan 1, 2012 21:15
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RIP Pat.
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Jan 1, 2012 21:15
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Ben Soosneb posted:RIP Pat. They killed Pat?!
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ConanThe3rd posted:You think they laid on the Melodrama thick enough with Eastenders? At least they didn't have a CGI ghost Frank and Pat (with Roy and Barry) looking down on Walford. Buy the car lot? you will die.
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Jan 1, 2012 21:16
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marktheando posted:You missed something. Oh cool, what did I miss?
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Jan 1, 2012 21:36
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They're not in a computer simulation, it's just a lovely world where they perform meaningless tasks to earn bullshit currency to fritter away on poo poo they don't need. OH WAIT.
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Jan 1, 2012 21:38
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Crankit posted:Oh cool, what did I miss? It wasn't a Matrix style virtual world, the whole thing was set in the real world.
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Crankit posted:Oh cool, what did I miss? The entire point. Go back and watch it again.
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Jan 1, 2012 21:38
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This "Hacks" could be pretty good. COMEDY: Hacks On: Channel 4 (4) Date: Sunday 1st January 2012 Time: 22:00 to 23:05 Channel 4's first phone hacking comedy. Written by Drop the Dead Donkey and Outnumbered writer Guy Jenkin, Hacks takes a satirical swipe at the recent momentous events surrounding the British newspaper industry. Set in a fictional paper the drive to get the story is intense - the phrase 'by any means necessary' doesn't even cover it. Phone hacking, blagging, pinging... the staff here do it all. But it's all about to unravel and in a big way... Editor Kate Loy doesn't take any prisoners and the proprietor of the tabloid she runs, Stanhope Feast demands she always gets the biggest stories first. But her moral compass went awry a long time ago - something that's about to cause her major problems. As the scandal breaks and the net closes in on her, things get funnier for the viewer as things go from bad to worse for the characters. The stellar cast includes Kayvan Novak, Nigel Planer, Phil Davis, Alexander Armstrong, Gordon Kennedy, Russ Abbott and Celia Imrie. It could also be unrelentingly poo poo like that poor mans People Like Us about the Olympics. But i'll guess we'll see.
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Jan 1, 2012 22:37
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BYE THEN PAT! Does this mean David is back?
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Jan 1, 2012 22:41
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Sherlock, was just perfect. Honestly can't think of a way they could of made it better.
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Jan 1, 2012 22:48
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Crankit posted:I don't get any commercial breaks on 4oD, so presumably it streams them from another server which adblock knows about?
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Jan 1, 2012 22:52
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Akuma posted:They're not in a computer simulation, it's just a lovely world where they perform meaningless tasks to earn bullshit currency to fritter away on poo poo they don't need. I didn't mean they were avatars, but they are confined to rooms, they can't go outside and play with cats, dogs, rivers or trees. That is what I meant by the poo poo matrix, essentially an upgraded set of VR goggles. If you're looking for an overall moral, I think it's actually about the exploitative nature of talent shows.
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Jan 1, 2012 23:18
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ukle posted:Sherlock, was just perfect. Honestly can't think of a way they could of made it better. Seconding that, really incredible bit of TV, kept making me think it could go the other way. Some really nice devices as well like the planes full of cadavers to fool terrorists. Really nicely shot as well.
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Jan 1, 2012 23:20
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DaWolfey posted:This "Hacks" could be pretty good. The only way this could live up to the actual Leveson inquiry is if they produce a massive ball of Brass Eye-style insanity and is then revealed to have actually been a documentary.
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Jan 1, 2012 23:23
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I like Doug Stanhope  Sucks that he's a Libertarian, though.
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Jan 1, 2012 23:26
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There are two types of women in Moffat's Sherlock: the cunning Irene Adler, and the regular, pathetic, unremarkable female that exists only for Sherlock Holmes to belittle.
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Jan 1, 2012 23:31
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Quanta posted:There are two types of women in Moffat's Sherlock: the cunning Irene Adler, and the regular, pathetic, unremarkable female that exists only for Sherlock Holmes to belittle. Moffat has some issues about women. Moffat posted:There’s this issue you’re not allowed to discuss: that women are needy. Men can go for longer, more happily, without women. That’s the truth. We don’t, as little boys, play at being married - we try to avoid it for as long as possible. Meanwhile women are out there hunting for husbands. The world is vastly counted in favour of men at every level - except if you live in a civilised country and you’re sort of educated and middle-class, because then you’re almost certainly junior in your relationship and in a state of permanent, crippled apology. Your preferences are routinely mocked. There’s a huge, unfortunate lack of respect for anything male. He's an excellent writer and I've really enjoyed a lot of his stuff but this attitude does show up in most of his work that I've seen.
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Jan 1, 2012 23:36
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marktheando posted:He's an excellent writer and I've really enjoyed a lot of his stuff but this attitude does show up in most of his work that I've seen. With that sort of attitude he may very well end up writing for Midsomer Murders.
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Jan 1, 2012 23:38
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marktheando posted:He's an excellent writer and I've really enjoyed a lot of his stuff but this attitude does show up in most of his work that I've seen. I'm not surprised at a quote like that when the sexism in Sherlock is so obvious, but it's no big loss for me. I don't like Doctor Who at all and his reimagining of Jekyll was a massive piece of poo poo.
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Jan 1, 2012 23:44
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Quanta posted:There are two types of women in Moffat's Sherlock: the cunning Irene Adler, and the regular, pathetic, unremarkable female that exists only for Sherlock Holmes to belittle. How many men does Sherlock not belittle? Are the women regular and unremarkable, or pathetic? Is there any specific reason you decided to bring this up?
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Jan 1, 2012 23:52
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Tempo 119 posted:How many men does Sherlock not belittle? This is kinda my attitude towards it as well except I'm not an unsympathetic dick about it - the problem seems to be more that every Sherlocky-type on telly is a man. Although it was a battle of emotions which Sherlock just won, it's a bit boring to see yet another "woman humbled by emotion" plot, even if it was very well done and was kinda alright on its own - it would be fine if it was in isolation, but it's not. Equally, apart from Mrs. Hudson this is the first strong woman character I can think of that's been in Sherlock (though I might be being forgetful) and Mrs. Hudson's a fairly "traditional" woman character (though that obviously can't really be helped.) I'm sure people would be much more inclined to over look it if Dr. Who regenerated as a woman next time... e: There's also the problem that every time you think of something and go "hmm, is that portrayal of a woman sexist?" that awful Moffat quote from earlier rings in your ears and you find it hard to give him the benefit of the doubt. Jonnty fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Jan 2, 2012 |
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Hacks was crap. Barely even satire really, just taking an obvious and low effort path through the events that occurred, culminating in a speech by Not Rupert that went no deeper than "I gave you what you wanted, the public - this is your fault." Let a talented bunch of writers have a go at it, and maybe it could be worked into something worthwhile.
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Jan 2, 2012 00:26
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DaWolfey posted:Hacks was crap. Yeah it was a shame, I assumed it was going to be worth watching. There were some decent laughs though considering and Kayvan Novak was pretty good.
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Jan 2, 2012 00:53
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Tempo 119 posted:Is there any specific reason you decided to bring this up? This thread is for discussing things you did or didn't like about a programme you just watched. Moffat's "belittling" of men is noticeably different to his belittling of women in the show. Holmes disparages most male characters by labelling them as stupid or clumsy, but his remarks towards women almost always involve comments about their looks, their desperation for a man or their adulterous behaviour. If I recall from the first episode of the last series, Holmes's first deduction in the murder case was that a female member of police had just given a colleague a blowjob.
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sebzilla posted:I like Doug Stanhope I liked his first bits on Newswipe or Screenwipe or whatever when I first saw them, and 'liked' his page on Facebook as a result. I very quickly unliked it, because almost everything he said on it was loving terrible.
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Tempo 119 posted:4od is completely infuriating, the only good thing about it is that you don't have to use it because everything's mirrored on Youtube. I thought the new Xbox 4OD app was ok until one of the triggers accidentally got pressed when i put the controller down. It caused the episode to skip to the end and then forcefully eject me from the video. The when I opened it up again, it forced me to sit through the loving extended love film ad again before making me have to manually track back to where I was. 3 minutes or so, all because one button was accidentally pushed.
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Jan 2, 2012 01:30
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I love the fact that Channel 4 are actually trying to get political satire and comedy on our TV screes but I just wish they would hurry up and start doing it well. I think theres one really easy way to get that happening sooner rather than later; get Mark Thomas back on board. Give him a TV show and just let him do his thing.
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Jan 2, 2012 01:44
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I was SO sure that Sherlock was going to involve Irene being in a relationship with a female royal and attempting to protect that relationship (which was more or less what happened in the Doyle story) - sort of let down that they didn't go that way, as a femme fatale falling for her target is pretty boring. She was great in the books because, while her goal was to get her man, that man WASN'T Holmes and never was. I'm just mad that Jeremy Brett hasn't played Sherlock in everything.
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Jan 2, 2012 03:01
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The only bit I didn't like in Sherlock was the very end. I would have liked if they had stuck more to the Irene that Doyle created, rather than "the woman that almost beat Sherlock Holmes, but then needed rescuing by him".
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Jan 2, 2012 11:07
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I thought the ending to Sherlock was terrible tbh. Also wasn't it inferred numerous times in the first series that Sherlock is gay?
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Jan 2, 2012 13:49
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Metrication posted:I thought the ending to Sherlock was terrible tbh. Also wasn't it inferred numerous times in the first series that Sherlock is gay?
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Jan 2, 2012 13:54
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Paperhouse posted:nope, if anything it was implied he was asexual Oh  How similar is this to Sherlock in the novels?
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Metrication posted:Oh It's pretty difficult to get a hard-on when you're coked out of your head.
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