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Mr Crustacean posted:Literal ravens. I don't think so. It's the line where ten ravens raked down her face? That's her clawing at her own face.
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Capsaicin posted:I don't think so. Youre right. I read it again with that in mind and it read much more naturally. The mothers madness that she was always accused of having finally struck her.. Thank you :] [edit] gently caress me this book is fantastic. JOFFREYS DEAD! Veg fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Dec 26, 2011 |
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Veg posted:Youre right. I read it again with that in mind and it read much more naturally. The mothers madness that she was always accused of having finally struck her.. Enjoy it, it's all downhill from here.
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Dec 26, 2011 12:02
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Hey, I just finished SoS two nights ago and I had a question: If Lysa was the one to poison Jon for Littlefinger, why were Cersei and Jamie so concerned with it? Now, I don't want a complete answer honestly, but I just want to know if this is explained/answered. If it is in books 4 or 5, I'd just like a "Yep, it's answered" response. If I'm dumb and missed something completely in the first 3 that explains this, please do call me dumb.
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GonSmithe posted:Hey, I just finished SoS two nights ago and I had a question: Jon was still looking into the whole incest thing so I imagine they're at least worried that he told someone before he died.
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Dec 26, 2011 20:02
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I watched the first season of the HBO series and I really enjoyed it. Would I be missing out on a lot by starting on the second book or should I start on the first?
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Dec 28, 2011 05:20
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supersteve posted:I watched the first season of the HBO series and I really enjoyed it. Start with the first. The show stays faithful for the most part, but the book expands a lot on the whole universe and there are characters and incidents that have been edited and cut. It is not essential, but it will further your enjoyment of it, and it will make a second watch of the TV show even better now that you a have a better understanding of who the minor characters are.
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Dec 28, 2011 05:27
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supersteve posted:I watched the first season of the HBO series and I really enjoyed it. You miss out on the beginnings of book twos major story.
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Dec 28, 2011 05:29
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The first it is, then. Thanks!
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Dec 28, 2011 05:38
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supersteve posted:I watched the first season of the HBO series and I really enjoyed it. However faithful they may be, watching a tv series or movie is usually not a good replacement for actually reading the book that it is based on. I don't remember all of the differences between the book and show (nor will I mention them in this thread), but they are there. Most notably I think the order of some of the chapters got flipped around, but that's not terribly important. It's a good read either way, so you may as well read it.
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Dec 28, 2011 10:08
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I finished A Storm Of Swords 2. Dat ending.
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Dec 28, 2011 11:09
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GRRM just announced a new chapter from Winds of Winter was just put up on his website. Since I haven't started Feast For Crows yet, I won't be looking but I hope its good.
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Gimmedaroot posted:GRRM just announced a new chapter from Winds of Winter was just put up on his website. Since I haven't started Feast For Crows yet, I won't be looking but I hope its good. http://georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html Here it is. BOOK 6 SPOILERS, if I actually need to say that. This website was designed in a far away time when Gurm's heart valves worked properly.
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Dec 29, 2011 11:24
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Veg posted:Im about 150 pages into SOS part 2. Ha, I had that one accidentally spoilt for me by my mum. I felt terrible for hours even before I read it.
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Octy posted:Ha, I had that one accidentally spoilt for me by my mum. I felt terrible for hours even before I read it. It's like watching a baseball game and rooting for your home team, and then someone on the opposing team fires an RPG into your home team's dugout.
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Conduit for Sale! posted:and then someone on the opposing team fires an RPG into your home team's dugout. And you knew about it in advance but you couldn't tell anyone about it and you just had to suffer in silence but also not worry anyone either!
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Just finished Storm of Swords last night and started Feast for Crows I had a friend tell me that (very minor spoilerish) Feast for Crows has less action and more political conflicts than the previous books, is this true? Wait, I'm confused. SOS comes in two books? The one I read had 1100+ pages and ended with (major spoiler) an Epilogue of Catelyn seemingly raised by the Red Priest condemning some random Frey to hang, also the regular book ended with Petyr Baelish pushing Lysa out of the moon door. Am I missing any story? I don't think I could take it if Arya was killed, I remember reading her getting knocked out with the axe and for a second I was scared the Hound had killed her and actually spent the next few minutes flipping through the book until I found another Arya chapter. Wizard of Wang fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Dec 29, 2011 |
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Dec 29, 2011 14:56
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Wizard of Wang posted:Just finished Storm of Swords last night and started Feast for Crows I had a friend tell me that (very minor spoilerish) Feast for Crows has less action and more political conflicts than the previous books, is this true? Oh good lord yes.
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Dec 29, 2011 14:59
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These are the types of books I'll pick up only intending to read a few chapters in the morning, and then burn through a few hundred pages until I wonder why its getting dark outside.
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Dec 29, 2011 15:24
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Wizard of Wang posted:Wait, I'm confused. SOS comes in two books? The one I read had 1100+ pages and ended with (major spoiler) an Epilogue of Catelyn seemingly raised by the Red Priest condemning some random Frey to hang, also the regular book ended with Petyr Baelish pushing Lysa out of the moon door. Am I missing any story?
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Dec 29, 2011 16:09
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Wizard of Wang posted:Just finished Storm of Swords last night and started Feast for Crows I had a friend tell me that (very minor spoilerish) Feast for Crows has less action and more political conflicts than the previous books, is this true? #1 - This is true. The book gets better on rereads but can be a bit dry your first time through after the balls-to-the-wall aSoS #2 - some Euro countries split aSoS into 2 books due to the size.
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Dec 29, 2011 16:33
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I don't know if it's just me hoping for a good turn or my man-love for Stannis but that sample chapter is loving awesome.
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Currently reading A Feast for Crows, and I hate to dogpile it, but holy cow it's a slog for me. Little parts of the ironborn chapters are kind of neat, mainly in how crazy Victarion is. I'm tired of Cersei, I feel like her chapters are mostly her sitting around thinking mean thoughts. It's boring. The Arya chapters are pretty neat, but there don't seem to be many of them. Jaime chapters are good, Brienne are pretty good. It's even worse after Christmas, because I got a big stack of books that I really want to read, so I keep having to drag myself back to FfC.
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PonchtheJedi posted:Currently reading A Feast for Crows, and I hate to dogpile it, but holy cow it's a slog for me. Yeah the book is pretty boring but at least it's pretty short compared to the others. Good news though, if you like Brienne's chapters then the book couldn't be that bad for you. I seriously don't think I've ever read more annoying/boring parts of a book then those.
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I know I'm in the minority here but I'm about 40% of the way through A Feast for Crows and actually enjoying it a ton. It doesn't hold a candle to the last 1/4 of Storm of Swords but I like the change of pace and find the settings to be a nice sort of palate cleanser for the series. Whereas almost every book prior has been pretty firmly set in the center and north of Westeros (or Free Cities/Gheskari Empire of Essos where Daenerys is concerned), the fleshing out of the Iron Islands and Dorne have been enjoyable to me. You get a chance to learn more about two kingdoms that you've always known have been heavily involved in the history of the continent but for whatever reason have not been treated centrally in the first three books. These two kingdoms are also coincidentally two that are far and away the most different in culture from the rest of the empire, at least to my knowledge, so it's nice in that it deepens the world a bit more. Of course, all of this is being said not even halfway through the book yet and I am still anticipating that some poo poo will be hitting some fans before I'm finished so maybe that suspense is part of it. I hope I'm not disappointed  Edit: Is there any significance to the Bear and the Maiden Fair song or is it just one of those annoying recurring things a la lemoncakes. In the last 2 books it's popped up something like 5 times. Mikey Purp fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Dec 30, 2011 |
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The bear and the maiden fair is like the only re-curring thing in the book that I still love. Just for being so ridiculous. Maybe it's foreshadowing for Jorah Mormont or something.
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I gorged through the first four books in about a month and now I have to buy ADWD. These books are simply amazing. The longest book to get through, for me, was A Feast For Crows, but I thought the end made up for it. Can't wait to jump back into Westeros!
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Dec 30, 2011 20:35
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How long is DWD compared to SOS? I know FFC was short as gently caress (larger text + bigger spacing), but it's hard to compare the hardcover DwD length with my paperback SoS copy.
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Trico posted:How long is DWD compared to SOS? I know FFC was short as gently caress (larger text + bigger spacing), but it's hard to compare the hardcover DwD length with my paperback SoS copy. They're about the same length. 973 for the US hardback of SoS and 1040 pages for the US hardback of DwD.
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Dec 31, 2011 02:52
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According to some random website found through Google, ASoS was 2k words longer than ADWD, which is like maybe 5 pages. However, the audiobook of ADWD is apparently an hour longer than ASOS. Could just be an hour of the narrator describing Dany making GBS threads water, though.
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I just noticed that the names of almost half of all the POV characters in AFFC start with the same letter... Aeron Areo Arianne Arya Arys Asha
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I'm new to fantasy fiction but I've run through all of ASoIaF books through early DwD. I've got a few pronunciation questions. Here's how I read these names: Taena Merriweather as "tay-na" House Yronwood as "ron-wood" The Y has gotta be silent, right? Illyrio Mopatis as "ill-Erie-o Mo-Pa-tees" I'm curious as to how they're pronounced on the audiobooks.
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Flew through the first book last week on vacation, about halfway through the aCoK. I'm used to reading stuff like the Wheel of Time where there is a set number of protagonists to root for, but I'm not sure how to feel about this series because I have a bad feeling that everyone I like will end up dead, given what has happened so far. I'm just going to root for Daenerys, because dragons own. . Oh and Jon. I like him.
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The Piper posted:Taena Merriweather as "tay-na" Agreed on the first one. I read the second as Ironwood, and the third as Mop-Ate-Iss.
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The Piper posted:I'm new to fantasy fiction but I've run through all of ASoIaF books through early DwD. I've got a few pronunciation questions. Here's how I read these names: I say Yronwood = Ironwood and Mopatis = Mo-pa-tiss. Also: don't trust the audiobooks; they're often grievously wrong. For example, Dotrice seems to want to pronounce every single Y as a long I sound, even in places where it's clearly just Martin's attempt at an apocryphal spelling of a modern name -- like with Petyr, which he pronounces puh-tire.
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Just pronounce it whatever way you want to pronounce it. For a large part your choices will be influenced by your native language anyway.
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I have a situation here. I'm a very, very slow reader but can generally get through most books. I made the mistake of watching Game of Thrones before finishing the first book. I really want to finish it, but I just can't stay involved now that I know the plot points. Would it be really stupid to jump into ACOK now?
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Glad this thread exists, I'm currently reading ASOS and I keep accidentally spoiling myself whenever I look up anything about any character on the Wiki of Ice and Fire  Also just want to say that I love Arya and I hope she lives forever.Kilometers Davis posted:I have a situation here. I'm a very, very slow reader but can generally get through most books. I made the mistake of watching Game of Thrones before finishing the first book. I really want to finish it, but I just can't stay involved now that I know the plot points. Would it be really stupid to jump into ACOK now? I had the same problem as you and jumped straight to ACOK with no problems. I had to look a few things up that I'd forgotten or weren't made clear in the show but it was fine. At least I think so! afgrunden fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Jan 4, 2012 |
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Jan 4, 2012 09:46
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If you really want to you can start with ACoK pretty easily. It has been mentioned before, though, that there are some things that weren't explained in the series (yet) that will already be important in ACoK. But, being aware of that, I guess it's easy enough to read up on things that don't seem to connect when you start reading ACoK. I'm a pretty slow reader as well and I read AGoT after seeing the TV series. For me it was fine and I actually got through it rather quickly because I knew the plot point. Yes, at some points I felt like just moving to ACoK but for me, personally, it was worth reading AGoT and then moving on to ACoK. In a way, it's easier to become acquainted with GRRM's writing style by reading something where you already know more or less what'll happen.
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BjornOfBorg posted:In a way, it's easier to become acquainted with GRRM's writing style by reading something where you already know more or less what'll happen. Bingo. You can picture the world youve seen in the show and associate the odd names he chooses for some things.
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