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osukeith161
Dec 19, 2004

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Since Cooking Channel is fair game, I cannot stand Jeffrey Saad. I could go an entire day with Guy Fieri before 3 hours with that guy. They have the same obnoxious this is the best thing i've tasted, you are blowing my mind! schtick to them, but at least Guy seems like he could possibly be somewhat like how he is in real life (which to many, could be even scarier) as opposed to Jeffrey.

I feel like people maybe made fun of his last name as a child, and he had to make up for it by being extra exuberant so he didn't come off as sad. I get the feeling he is just one bad take away from pulling out a gun, shooting the film crew, and screaming "if I have to pretend one more sub-par taco has the perfect balance of sweet, savory, acidic, umami, salty, and rainbow one more time, I will burn this place to the ground!" Either that, or he is permanently taking cocktails of xanax/klonopin/low-dose ecstasy.

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gyrobot
Nov 16, 2011

raditts posted:

Bourdain is no doubt rich, but he doesn't give off the "rich chef" vibe and he seems to prefer obscure hole-in-the-wall joints to "expensive high-class food." And if that was when Food Network started doing it with him, it certainly ended with him too; I sure don't remember it ever being a trend.

Over in Asian TV, food travel shows were focused on exotic locales (as far as we know) and going to the expensive places rather than the hole-in-the-wall joints.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

Sneeing Emu posted:

Was it Great Chefs? I absolutely loved that show. Just one chef, doing one dish. I'm not surprised it didn't last, but it was great while it did.

That sounds right. But I'd say that with 700 episodes, according to Wikipedia, it lasted quite long. Apparently it began life as PBS show before moving to the Discovery Channel. The production company that made it was in Louisiana, which explains the southern sounding narrator.

gyrobot
Nov 16, 2011

raditts posted:

When did they start doing that?

Now when you think about, why don't chefs in food network go to more expensive places? I remember this show about a well renowned chef in Hong Kong who travels with two fine ladies (which was taken from an earlier series with a rather corpulent journalist who had wine and dined at some of the finest locales) to places around the world to show them a few of the local specialties.

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

They're showing a marathon of Chopped All-Stars right now.

One of the appetizer ingredients is haggis, Anne got hot oil in her eye, and Claire has a bloody glove about halfway through round 1.

This is only gonna get better. :allears:

e: Robert dropped the carrots! :derp:

iastudent fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Dec 29, 2011

Kung Fu Jesus
Jun 20, 2002

lol jews gonna get fucked.

Sneeing Emu posted:

Was it Great Chefs? I absolutely loved that show. Just one chef, doing one dish. I'm not surprised it didn't last, but it was great while it did.

Definitely Great Chefs. It ran for a while, if I remember and showed the chefs cooking in their own restaurant kitchens while the woman with the soothing voice narrated.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
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Kung Fu Jesus posted:

Definitely Great Chefs. It ran for a while, if I remember and showed the chefs cooking in their own restaurant kitchens while the woman with the soothing voice narrated.

This sounds like the "How It's Made" of food.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

iastudent posted:

They're showing a marathon of Chopped All-Stars right now.

One of the appetizer ingredients is haggis, Anne got hot oil in her eye, and Claire has a bloody glove about halfway through round 1.

This is only gonna get better. :allears:

e: Robert dropped the carrots! :derp:

God, Robert Irvine can go die in a fire. He's such a tool. I'm glad he has no recognition over here in the UK I'm glad to say.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

The_Doctor posted:

God, Robert Irvine can go die in a fire. He's such a tool. I'm glad he has no recognition over here in the UK I'm glad to say.

Is this really true, I heard he was knighted...

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Toffile posted:

Is this really true, I heard he was knighted...

Uh no, he faked most of his history and thought he'd get away with it.

Debbie Metallica
Jun 7, 2001

The_Doctor posted:

Uh no, he faked most of his history and thought he'd get away with it.

He more or less did. When the scandal broke and his restaurant in FL or wherever tanked, they pulled him off Dinner: Impossible for a bit, then reintroduced him and now it's like nothing even happened.

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.
They gave Dinner: Impossible to Michael Symon...and then took it away from him. Poor Symon.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

TheBigBudgetSequel posted:

They gave Dinner: Impossible to Michael Symon...and then took it away from him. Poor Symon.

To be fair...Symon wasn't very good at it (though he was more fun to watch). Symon also said that when they handed the show to him it was going to be a temporary thing so he knew what he was getting into.

Irvine's skillset was custom made for that show. He's good at large scale organizing under pressure. He can produce a lot of food in little time but when he goes up against someone on a smaller scale, he doesn't even come close. Why he thought he could win on Iron Chef, or Chopped is beyond me. He lost to Guy Fieri for fucks sake.

ExiledTinkerer
Nov 4, 2009
For trumped up fancy, there really isn't anything out there like Cuisine Culture nowadays. http://cuisineculture.tv/ Well, in English at lest, I've always been curious as to what sort of food/cooking shows are out there in non-English countries and hope that one day somebody starts subtitling them or some such.

I can only get episodes on PBA on Saturday afternoons, but the ludicrously over the top intro music that is somehow reminiscent of a porno shoot, the high end dishes---it is all just bonkers and I don't know how many episodes the madness will last.

Also, the constant "Where in the world will I wind up next?" schtick, while seemingly always winding up somewhere in France or thereabouts that part of Europe as if other continents barely exist.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

axleblaze posted:

Why he thought he could win on Iron Chef, or Chopped is beyond me. He lost to Guy Fieri for fucks sake.
Any TV time is good TV time for these guys.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
I don't care what you guys say, I would eat Zakarian's food any day of the week. At least judging from other people's reactions to his cooking.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

CornHolio posted:

I don't care what you guys say, I would eat Zakarian's food any day of the week. At least judging from other people's reactions to his cooking.

I don't think anyone is saying he's a bad chef, just an rear end in a top hat who doesn't pay his staff.

gyrobot
Nov 16, 2011

ExiledTinkerer posted:

For trumped up fancy, there really isn't anything out there like Cuisine Culture nowadays. http://cuisineculture.tv/ Well, in English at lest, I've always been curious as to what sort of food/cooking shows are out there in non-English countries and hope that one day somebody starts subtitling them or some such.

I can only get episodes on PBA on Saturday afternoons, but the ludicrously over the top intro music that is somehow reminiscent of a porno shoot, the high end dishes---it is all just bonkers and I don't know how many episodes the madness will last.

Also, the constant "Where in the world will I wind up next?" schtick, while seemingly always winding up somewhere in France or thereabouts that part of Europe as if other continents barely exist.

Because food network chefs don't even match the chef on Cuisine Culture. Food Network is probably sticking strictly to homestyle cooking as most would feel alienated watching shows about chefs schmoozing with other chefs while eating really expensive food and drink.

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

axleblaze posted:

To be fair...Symon wasn't very good at it (though he was more fun to watch).

Agreed. Robert Irvine's version was about a very intense guy yelling at challenges to complete them. This worked if you cared about "Will they complete this challenge?" but it didn't work if you cared about people not being unpleasant.

Michael Symon's version was about a guy having some genuine fun trying to do some unique challenges. If you felt that challenges must be completed to an exceptional degree in order for the show to fulfill its premise, then this was a problem, but for those of use who didn't care (or enjoyed some genuine doubt that a challenge would be completed), it was nice to see someone enjoyable for a change.

Then Robert came back and they felt it needed to be MORE IMPOSSIBLE and they'd keep adding new missions during the middle of the challenge so that he could yell more. Now he's yelling at restaurants.


By the way, who else thinks it's hilarious that Alex Guarnaschelli is Geoffrey Zakarian's sous chef on Iron Chef? Well Alex, you didn't win Next Iron Chef (you didn't even get runner-up), but you still get to do all the work of an Iron Chef without any of the recognition!

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

Jamesman posted:

Agreed. Robert Irvine's version was about a very intense guy yelling at challenges to complete them. This worked if you cared about "Will they complete this challenge?" but it didn't work if you cared about people not being unpleasant.

Michael Symon's version was about a guy having some genuine fun trying to do some unique challenges. If you felt that challenges must be completed to an exceptional degree in order for the show to fulfill its premise, then this was a problem, but for those of use who didn't care (or enjoyed some genuine doubt that a challenge would be completed), it was nice to see someone enjoyable for a change.

Then Robert came back and they felt it needed to be MORE IMPOSSIBLE and they'd keep adding new missions during the middle of the challenge so that he could yell more. Now he's yelling at restaurants.


By the way, who else thinks it's hilarious that Alex Guarnaschelli is Geoffrey Zakarian's sous chef on Iron Chef? Well Alex, you didn't win Next Iron Chef (you didn't even get runner-up), but you still get to do all the work of an Iron Chef without any of the recognition!

I like how she was not subordinate to him in anyway what so ever in their first battle together. She was basically co-Iron Chef.

Debbie Metallica
Jun 7, 2001

Get off your asses and watch Guy vs Rachael with me. :colbert:


I have to make ranch dressing from scratch!?!?!?!?!?!?

Robviously
Aug 21, 2010

Genius. Billionaire. Playboy. Philanthropist.

Ozmaugh posted:

I have to make ranch dressing from scratch!?!?!?!?!?!?

Goddamn but that face he made was almost as good as when it was tasted for the first time.

I'm actually quite interested in how this show turns out. If only to see what Coolio can come up with week in/week out.


PS~ You're an Iron Chef, you chucklefuck. You should know how much fish you need for a tartare. :frogout:

Elliot Rosewater
Feb 15, 2005
Squee!
Rachael Vs. Guy is hilariously terrible. None of the celebrities can cook, none of the celebrities are celebrities, and it looked like hardly anyone showed up to the outdoor cooking event they had. If every episode has things like the guy who adds thousand island to an attempt at ranch dressing, half the other things that happened, and Rachael and Guy trying their absolute best to find SOMETHING positive to say about the dishes they're trying, I'm going to watch every episode and then be sad when it's over.

I think I like this better than Next Iron Chef and I really liked Next Iron Chef.

Debbie Metallica
Jun 7, 2001

Robviously posted:

I'm actually quite interested in how this show turns out. If only to see what Coolio can come up with week in/week out.


Glad to see Lou Diamond Phillips redeemed. It actually wasn't as awful as I thought it was going to be, I thought they'd be really awful cooks in need of more assistance but they muddled through OK.

Elliot Rosewater posted:

None of the celebrities can cook, none of the celebrities are celebrities, and it looked like hardly anyone showed up to the outdoor cooking event they had. If every episode has things like the guy who adds thousand island to an attempt at ranch dressing

aahahha, obviously my mileage varied. HEY, thousand island is close enough!

Robviously
Aug 21, 2010

Genius. Billionaire. Playboy. Philanthropist.

I, too, thought that it would be a wonderful trainwreck and felt pleasantly surprised.

Elliot Rosewater posted:

None of the celebrities can cook, none of the celebrities are celebrities, and it looked like hardly anyone showed up to the outdoor cooking event they had.

I'm gonna humbly disagree on that. Some of the celebrities can't cook, but I think that's the point. There were a couple dishes that had my fiancee and I interested though. Fatone's shrimp and Cheech's little burrito things standing out.


150 people also will look a lot fewer when spread out over that area.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Robviously posted:

PS~ You're an Iron Chef, you chucklefuck. You should know how much fish you need for a tartare. :frogout:

None of those Food Network clowns deserve to be called Iron Chefs.

osukeith161
Dec 19, 2004

by Y Kant Ozma Post

raditts posted:

None of those Food Network clowns deserve to be called Iron Chefs.

I agree. However... Did you see this year's special episode with Flay and Cute-Girl Flayette Jr versus Morimoto (a real iron chef) and Andrew Zimmer?

Team ancho "impressed the judges with their depth of flavors: mexican and indian spices were used." and took down the favored team. Therefore, I am completely convinced that the one true cuisine must always have a flatter rollable cooking vessel, poblano/ancho/mole/chipotle sauce, crema/crem fraiche/queso fresco, and a salsa of fruits or veggies. Maybe these guys are true Iron Chefs!

Argh, I hate him so much. It isn't that I hate that cuisine. I would gladly have it once a week. The audacity of Food Network having him quote his range of flavor profiles to the viewers who know he is full of poo poo was one heck of a viewing experience. I addressed my television as if it could he hear me. I really wanted Morimoto's entire fish on the cloth prepared using different techniques.

gyrobot
Nov 16, 2011

Vakal posted:

Another Food/Educational show I would like to recommend is The Supersizers Go...

It wasn't a Food network original, but it did air sometimes in the early morning on the channel.


The premise of the show was that the two host would adopt the lifestyles of people from specific eras in the past and show how they lived and what food they ate.


It sounds boring, but it was really quite funny and entertaining. It didn't run for very long, but you can easily find the episodes on youtube.

British people even, it seem Great Britain and her official colonies(Canada) still cares about cooking more than America

ExiledTinkerer
Nov 4, 2009
I think Supersizers Go is coming on Cooking Channel sometime this week---been getting several promos alongside Paula Deen's Son's Show about De-Buttering Things or some such.

SamBishop
Jan 10, 2003

FlamingLiberal posted:

It's also keeping The Wonder Years from ever getting a DVD release. Oddly though, both Amazon and Netflix are streaming the show now, but several songs (including the main theme song) had to be replaced to avoid the issues.

Sorry to pull this from so far back in the thread, but they changed the loving theme song to The Wonder Years? The Joe Cocker one? His version of that song is the only one that should ever be used and without it I can't even imagine watching that show. What a shame...

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

SamBishop posted:

Sorry to pull this from so far back in the thread, but they changed the loving theme song to The Wonder Years? The Joe Cocker one? His version of that song is the only one that should ever be used and without it I can't even imagine watching that show. What a shame...

It's not that far off, to be honest.

http://youtu.be/l2_2SPFs5Hc

SamBishop
Jan 10, 2003

The_Doctor posted:

It's not that far off, to be honest.

http://youtu.be/l2_2SPFs5Hc

Eh, that's a pretty big difference to me, like a bad cover of an amazing cover, but I don't want to keep pulling things off topic.

Instead, to join in the general disappointment and hate-fest of Food Network in particular, I'll just remind everyone that this is the same channel that used to sign off every night with reruns of The Galloping Gormet and after having him shoot well over 1000 episodes of Emeril Live, they unceremoniously dumped the guy who put them on the map. Well, that and Iron Chef, but that show loses so much of its soul without the Backdraft music, speaking of reworked theme music.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
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Melt
Steel Beams
Just saw a commercial for Fat Chef, a show about fat chefs losing weight.

Also saw a commercial for something on the Cooking Channel, and the url is cookingchanneltv.com. What's at cookingchannel.com? A domain parking site.

amaranthine
Aug 27, 2009
I AM A TERRIBLE HUMAN BEING

ExiledTinkerer posted:

I think Supersizers Go is coming on Cooking Channel sometime this week---been getting several promos alongside Paula Deen's Son's Show about De-Buttering Things or some such.

Just FYI, if anyone gets the Cooking Channel, watch Supersizers Go. It's a phenomenal show. Also, Sue Perkins is adorable.

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

FISHMANPET posted:

Just saw a commercial for Fat Chef, a show about fat chefs losing weight.

I've seen commercials for this too. I have no idea why the gently caress this is a show, or a show on Food Network (Though to be fair, the same could be said about 90% of FN's programming).

I've also seen commercials for a new season of Worst Cooks in America, which is probably the worst premise for a reality competition I've ever seen.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams

Jamesman posted:

I've seen commercials for this too. I have no idea why the gently caress this is a show, or a show on Food Network (Though to be fair, the same could be said about 90% of FN's programming).

I've also seen commercials for a new season of Worst Cooks in America, which is probably the worst premise for a reality competition I've ever seen.

At least it has Bobby Flay?

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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I hate that the judges on Chopped will complain about people's terminology when they make a "risotto" out of sweet potatoes or whatever, and then say things like "This dish is really unctuous in a good way," or "This chard is oversalted in way that works." Both actual quotes. Both really stupid.

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

I hate the mods I hate the mods I hate the mods! I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS! Hey wait a minute why do the mods hate me I'm contributing to the conversation I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HA

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

I hate that the judges on Chopped will complain about people's terminology when they make a "risotto" out of sweet potatoes or whatever, and then say things like "This dish is really unctuous in a good way," or "This chard is oversalted in way that works." Both actual quotes. Both really stupid.

Scott Conant is my least favorite chopped judge. You have to really try to be more unlikeable than Alex Guarnaschelli. Another thing I noticed is Chris Santos must own 100s of vests because it is rare to see him without one on this show.

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

I hate the mods I hate the mods I hate the mods! I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS! Hey wait a minute why do the mods hate me I'm contributing to the conversation I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HA
Has anyone else watched not my mamas cooking? The guy running the donut shop just said their oil is 100% fat free :psyduck:

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Kung Fu Jesus
Jun 20, 2002

lol jews gonna get fucked.

Moose Bigelow posted:

Scott Conant is my least favorite chopped judge. You have to really try to be more unlikeable than Alex Guarnaschelli. Another thing I noticed is Chris Santos must own 100s of vests because it is rare to see him without one on this show.

Scott Conant has a very rear end in a top hat way of delivering his criticisms. I don't know why he's like that since he seemed pretty cool and nice on his 24 Hour Restaurant show.

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