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I've never used a shield, but has anyone ever tried rain-x? It might sound stupid, but I use it on the inside of my car windshield and it doesn't fog when it rains anymore. edit: I just googled this and apparently this is the worst decision. Please do not do this anyone.
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I've had great luck using Rain-X on my eyeglasses. Sometimes they fog a tiny bit but it clears up as soon as I start skating again. No condensation whatsoever. Rain-X doesn't cling to plastic too well though, I only get one skate before I have to reapply. Soon as I clean them off with the shirt, they fog up again. No idea what the strange chemicals are doing to my body though! 
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Jan 9, 2012 19:40
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just use a cage, problem solved
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Jan 9, 2012 20:18
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I was using a cage for the last few years, but I thought I'd give the visor-cage a go. I actually like the visibility I get from it when it isn't fogged up so I'm hoping I can make it work.
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Jan 9, 2012 20:25
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sellouts posted:just use a cage, problem solved BUT MY VISION!!!!!
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Jan 9, 2012 20:38
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Rain X makes an anti-fog that works pretty good on plastic mirrors. Unfortunately, this and all other anti-fogs wear out when exposed to too much moisture over time. All my experiences from this poo poo was from wearing goggles for airsoft. I've used scuba diving anti-fog, regular dish soap, shaving cream, spit, and whatever else. They all work as well as they can. All of them will fail, given enough time. Bring a towel, keep wiping, or keep moving. Find a way to get your visor out of the way of your sweat vapor if you're not moving or find a way to get air moving through your visor. Wipe your forehead/face/inner helmet too.
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Jan 9, 2012 20:41
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Dude is talking about a visor-cage combo and these comments still happen? Jesus.
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Jan 9, 2012 20:43
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Gio posted:Dude is talking about a visor-cage combo and these comments still happen? Jesus. I think the problem is that people get visors for improved vision but complain about fogging. They don't realize that its a three way tradeoff and you cant have everything. Visors take a lot of upkeep with fogging etc. I found that visors are terrible for inline in my experience. At least with ice, it can cool down and wont fog as much, but when I play roller in a non-air conditioned space, I expect massive fogging. No Visor - and get improved vision with minimal safety Visor - to get minimal safety and great vision but you get fogging Visor/cage combo - great safety and pretty good vision but you get fogging, sometimes more than just a standalone visor. Cage - for decent vision and maximum safety. Most modern cages with the silvery/gray color seem to be 1000 times better than older cages. You have to figure whether Safety or Vision is more important to you because there is no perfect solution to everyone though there are the folks who would prefer to lose a puck here and there to vision for improved safety, but then you have the crowd who prefers the performance boost of being able to see versus losing their teeth or an eye during a game. Personally it doesnt matter to me what other people prefer. I wear a cage for safety sake but I would like to try a visor/cage combo, it just fogs too much for inline and requires removing your helmet to wipe the visor. Verman fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jan 9, 2012 |
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Jan 9, 2012 20:51
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So last night I had a 1 on 1, look up and notice I have top right corner.. I use the D as a screen and snipe topshelf. A goal this sweet will never happen to me again
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Jan 9, 2012 20:52
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Anyone in these parts use or heard anything about hockeyot.com? I ran across it and it seems like a curious thing, but there are virtually no reviews or discussion about it that I can find with google. I wouldn't expect it to turn anyone into a pro athlete or anything, but if it helps with focus and getting more benefit out of time spent at the gym, it might be worth a shot. The only red flag is that I can't find any forum discussion about it.
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Jan 9, 2012 21:09
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poser posted:So last night I had a 1 on 1, look up and notice I have top right corner.. I use the D as a screen and snipe topshelf. A goal this sweet will never happen to me again This is my bread and butter shot since I can't stickhandle by anyone. Been working on stickhandling drills in my garage at night though and it's gotten a little better.
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Jan 9, 2012 21:46
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poser posted:So last night I had a 1 on 1, look up and notice I have top right corner.. I use the D as a screen and snipe topshelf. A goal this sweet will never happen to me again sup, opposite end of the spectrum buddy  Scored what was probably the ugliest goal ever in my short short hockey career. Our D-man carried the puck in behind their net, wrapped around, passed it to me in the slot. I went to one-time it, but my skates slipped out from underneath me and I caught the puck with the toe of my blade as I fell over. It was one of those 3mph change-ups that somehow found its way into the lower corner of the net. Just happened to catch the goalie sliding the other way and snuck in between his toe and the post. I blame it on my new flat-bottom cut. I made the mistake of getting a brand new cut and not trying it out at stick time first.
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Jan 9, 2012 22:08
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Does anyone use special insoles in their hockey skates? I've never had them in my skates, but I use them in my snowboard boots, and they make a lot of difference for comfort. I'm just wondering if there are added benefits of having them in hockey skates as well. Also, has anyone tried Blade Tape? http://www.bladetape.ca/index.php/ Willie Mitchell uses it so it must be good, right?
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Jan 9, 2012 22:17
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I use yellow superfeet, but I can't really say either way whether it makes skating more comfortable or not compared to the insoles that came with the skate. I bought them when I was having sizing issues, trying to figure out what was going on, and since I laid down the money, I'm gonna use them dammit. On the upside, superfeet are made of more durable material so I can run them through the wash without issue. The poo poo foam ones the skates came with do not like a washer at all.
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Jan 9, 2012 22:20
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I really like the yellow Superfeet, very noticeable difference for me.
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Jan 9, 2012 22:24
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cenzo posted:I've never used a shield, but has anyone ever tried rain-x? It might sound stupid, but I use it on the inside of my car windshield and it doesn't fog when it rains anymore. I love the edit :P sellouts posted:just use a cage, problem solved or let your face hang free.
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Jan 9, 2012 22:46
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Awesome Animals posted:or let your face hang free. After watching Seabrook headbutt a slapshot (results of being tripped) last night, I will never step into a hockey game without a full cage.  Too much random poo poo can happen, and my insurance won't cover near enough of it if something did happen.
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Jan 9, 2012 22:48
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xzzy posted:After watching Seabrook headbutt a slapshot (results of being tripped) last night, I will never step into a hockey game without a full cage. Yea, I've only participated in Alumni games, and youth hockey practices without a cage. As much as I want to act like a hard-rear end, that cage stays in my bag for when I play real hockey.
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Jan 9, 2012 22:52
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As a filthy commie whose socialist state would pay for all of the medical attention, it's still not worth it. Full mask errday.
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Jan 9, 2012 22:53
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I switched to a visor a couple months ago, like it so far. I got a new helmet and needed a new setup and just wanted to try it out. No fogging issues so far, but I still just keep a towel and wipe it down. Breath less?
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Jan 9, 2012 23:23
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Verman posted:Visor - to get minimal safety and great vision but you get fogging Completely disagree. Visors protect in a huge way, especially if worn with a mouguard. I've taken pucks, sticks, bodychecks, and punches to the face for years and have never felt under protected with just a visor. I've also never seen an eye or tooth injury when guys are wearing them. Pucks and sticks just don't get to your eyes with a shield on. The only possibility is some fluke butt end like Charlie Conway in the corners. While cages prevent lip lacerations they've been shown to increase concussions. And this is just my feeling, but I feel like mouth guards act as a shock absorber when taking hits to the jaw. With a cage, you're probably not wearing one. Some of my worst headshots were while wearing a cage. I'd rather take a hit with a mouth guard and visor than just a cage. No visor, no mouth guard, no cage? I think that's crazy. The only case you could ever make to me not to wear something is that you make millions of dollars playing hockey and need that edge.
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Jan 10, 2012 00:06
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I've seen a guy lacerate (almost break) his nose from a clearing attempt to the face. I've seen teeth go through lips. I've seen enough blood from guys' faces to put Bonfils out of the donation business. All wearing shields. I'll stick with my cage, thanks.
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Jan 10, 2012 05:14
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My team only had 8 skaters last night. sucked hard. Usually we have 10-13 which is great. Have like 15 on the roster with a core group that has been together about 6 years now.
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Jan 10, 2012 20:11
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bigmike posted:Completely disagree. Visors protect in a huge way, especially if worn with a mouguard. I've taken pucks, sticks, bodychecks, and punches to the face for years and have never felt under protected with just a visor. I've also never seen an eye or tooth injury when guys are wearing them. Pucks and sticks just don't get to your eyes with a shield on. The only possibility is some fluke butt end like Charlie Conway in the corners. Sorry dude, but what the hell are you talking about? Pucks and sticks get under visors constantly, especially in beer league with weekend warriors that don't understand stick on ice. I've seen everything Dangerllama has in beer leagues as well -- if you skate with just a visor you're skating on borrowed time until something happens. It's a question of not if, but when. Can you link to the study that shows cages increase concussions compared to general head contact? Mouth guards act as a shock absorber and help avoid concussions, that is true. Who doesn't or wouldn't wear one under a cage? Even the "pros" wear mouthguards so there's no edge to be gained by not having one in.
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Jan 10, 2012 20:13
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Almost nobody I play with wears a mouthguard under a cage. I don't, though I feel kind of dumb about it.
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Jan 10, 2012 20:28
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To add to this, I don't feel like people wear masks or cages to avoid concussions. Most use facial protection such as a cage to keep from losing an eye, lacerating their face, losing teeth, breaking a nose, splitting their chin, keeping their orbital bones in tact etc. While a visor will certainly offer a degree of protection, trying to make them sound any safer than a cage is a little on the ridiculous side. There is a reason every hockey program from squirts to college require full cages and not visors. The fact of the matter is that visors prevent a lot of different types of injury but in no way do they protect to the same degree or more than a cage.
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Jan 10, 2012 20:29
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sellouts posted:Can you link to the study that shows cages increase concussions compared to general head contact? Cages can transfer the shock from a hit to the head straight through the jaw, which can lead to a concussion. I'm not sure if this is true or not but that's the argument. As for the other bit, do you know how hard it is to take a mouthguard in and out of your mouth with a full cage on? Sometimes you wanna talk to your teammates at the bench.
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Jan 10, 2012 20:52
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Verman posted:There is a reason every hockey program from squirts to college require full cages and not visors.
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Jan 10, 2012 21:03
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Patrick Kane can remove/insert his mouthguard with no hands. Any schlub with a cage on should be able to do the same.  That said, some kind of quick release for cages would be really drat nice.
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Jan 10, 2012 21:07
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Tank44 posted:My team only had 8 skaters last night. sucked hard.
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Jan 10, 2012 21:44
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As someone who wears a mouthguard and a cage, I'm not entirely sure what the issue is. It's not difficult to remove the mouthguard with the cage secured if you're doing the half-chew that Kane,Patrick and Versteeg,Kris are known for. Also, the cage is secured with only 2 or if you're super awesome: 1, strap(s). Once removed, the cage pivots up exposing your face, is that not quick enough?
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cenzo posted:As someone who wears a mouthguard and a cage, I'm not entirely sure what the issue is. It's not difficult to remove the mouthguard with the cage secured if you're doing the half-chew that Kane,Patrick and Versteeg,Kris are known for. Also, the cage is secured with only 2 or if you're super awesome: 1, strap(s). Once removed, the cage pivots up exposing your face, is that not quick enough? a) Get to bench, b) Find a place to lean stick so it doesn't fall over and get in people's way, c) Take off gloves, d) Find someplace to stash gloves and hope they don't roll off the bench and into a pile of someone's spit, e) Finally, unlatch cage, f) Take care of business, g) Reverse process, hopefully you're done before your next shift. It's not the most laborious process in the world, but I'd rather skip it. So I usually do everything I can to avoid dicking with my helmet unless I'm in the locker room.
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Jan 10, 2012 21:55
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wear a half visor, problem solved
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Jan 10, 2012 21:57
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xzzy posted:a) Get to bench, I guess I have to ask a dumb question, what business are you taking care of? I'm really curious. The only time I would flip my cage up in game is if my glasses got bounced around. Once you master the art of aiming your water bottle through your cage, I can't imagine any other reason to open it up.
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xzzy posted:a) Get to bench, I'm sorry to be blunt, but this is like the Legally Blonde 3 of hockey lists right here. Your glove goes under your arm. Your stick goes between your legs, with the blade on the dasher if needs be. It should take you like .04 seconds to get your cage up. I don't wear a mouthgard under my cage, though. I think that's overkill for no-check hockey.
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cenzo posted:I guess I have to ask a dumb question, what business are you taking care of? I'm really curious. The only time I would flip my cage up in game is if my glasses got bounced around. Once you master the art of aiming your water bottle through your cage, I can't imagine any other reason to open it up. to wipe the sweat off your face? its probably worse playing roller than ice but I always have to clean off my face after a shift
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Jan 10, 2012 22:11
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lazerwolf posted:to wipe the sweat off your face? its probably worse playing roller than ice but I always have to clean off my face after a shift Wear a bandana under your helmet. I just started doing this about a month ago and I rarely ever get sweat in my eyes anymore. It's glorious.
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cenzo posted:I guess I have to ask a dumb question, what business are you taking care of? I'm really curious. The only time I would flip my cage up in game is if my glasses got bounced around. Once you master the art of aiming your water bottle through your cage, I can't imagine any other reason to open it up. That's not really relevant as the conversation was about how quickly one can remove their helmet.
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It hadn't even occurred to wear a mouth guard while using a cage. If the league isn't contact it seems like kind of overkill.
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is this really what I'm hearing? A cage is more dangerous than a half visor because you can potentially get hit in the face hard enough while playing no-check hockey to be concussed than you would be versus getting hit in the open mouth/nose/chin from a stick, elbow, puck, etc? If you put 1,000,000 people into a typical no-check hockey environment, half wearing cages and the other half wearing half visors, I would be willing to say that the following. - Concussions would probably be minimal since its no check in the first place, and probably equal - Facial Lacerations would happen more with those wearing visors from flying pucks and sticks - Broken Teeth would occur with both but more with those wearing visors - Broken facial bones would only occur with those wearing visors since cages protect the entire face - Eye damage would occur more with those wearing visors as its nearly impossible to penetrate a cage. Using concussions as an argument against gages and in favor of visors in a typical no-checking environment just doesn't make any sense. Thats what you prefer and I understand that, there's nothing wrong with it, but I can't see how people are trying to say that cages are dangerous when they are infinitely safer than visors.
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