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compressioncut
Sep 3, 2003

Eat knuckle, Fritz!

MagicCube posted:

I don't doubt that at all, but I can't complain about my entry plan because I've done gently caress-all since August and am getting paid (the benefits of Civi-U ROTP).

I'm civi-u UTPNCM so it's like a, literally, mid career break of 3-4 years that is all pensionable. You can't imagine my ecstasy. My obligatory service expires two years before my intermediate engagement, so that's cool too. And I get paid a loooot more than a normal OCdt, but have the same responsibilities (none whatsoever). Possibly the sweetest deal in the CF.

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M. Propagandalf
Aug 9, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Yukon hat ordered back last summer arrived today. Not that I'll be able to wear it with my unit, but it is a most awesome hat, and the only article of clothing I currently own using REAL FUR.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

M. Propagandalf posted:

Yukon hat ordered back last summer arrived today. Not that I'll be able to wear it with my unit, but it is a most awesome hat, and the only article of clothing I currently own using REAL FUR.

Is it made out of seals or beavers or what?

Hizawk
Jun 18, 2004

High on the Lions.

I go back to work monday.

All pers with 5+ years in come back the following week, except for a few Mcpl's.

Basically giving us another week off!

Also, my distance learning PLQ course got jacked up... By the course WO... On the course message board.

Mr.48
May 1, 2007

Hizawk posted:

Also, my distance learning PLQ course got jacked up... By the course WO... On the course message board.

:psyduck: How the gently caress does a distance learning PLQ course even work?

M. Propagandalf
Aug 9, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

tuyop posted:

Is it made out of seals or beavers or what?

Muskrat. It also has instructions noting that any any hat care should be done by a fur specialist.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

M. Propagandalf posted:

Muskrat. It also has instructions noting that any any hat care should be done by a fur specialist.

A google maps search for "fur specialist" returned my university as a result. I wish I had gotten a minor in hat care.

Hizawk
Jun 18, 2004

High on the Lions.

Mr.48 posted:

:psyduck: How the gently caress does a distance learning PLQ course even work?

Its mods 1 to 5, after which you do residency, and the practical of teaching drill, lessons, pt. The online course is a million powerpoints followed by tests, then the homework assignments of creating lesson plans, memos, and PDRs.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

MA-Horus posted:

I'm the same way, except replace reservist with officer.

I would never rejoin as enlisted again. Ever. Or as a clerk. The amount of bullshit you deal with is simply incomprehensible.
I'm the same way, except replace officer with civilian that has nothing to do with the army. Almost two months later and I've never been happier or beardier

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

My Spirit Otter posted:

I'm the same way, except replace officer with civilian that has nothing to do with the army. Almost two months later and I've never been happier or beardier

So how did you find the career transition? Did you find work immediately?

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

tuyop posted:

So how did you find the career transition? Did you find work immediately?
I haven't started working yet. I'm going to go back to school. So I can't really help you there

Influence Device
Jan 1, 2005

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Hi CGIPs, I'm giving strong consideration to joining the military after or during going to school for my B.Sc.N. I was wondering if anyone had any comments or opinions or suggestions regarding nurses in the military or what not.

Morristron
Nov 20, 2010
I don't really know how high of an op tempo nurses and doctors have in the CF. I know the medics get worked like loving dogs.

Also, the military sucks at the best of times and now is an especially bad time to join, given budget and political issues.

Don't do it.

compressioncut
Sep 3, 2003

Eat knuckle, Fritz!
That said, as a nurse you'd be an officer and an employed person with a steady job, and a decent paycheck. I don't know what military nurses do because I can't recall ever seeing one(!).

You will probably find quite a bit of info at army.ca (not affiliated with the Forces), although their search engine sucks so try the "site:army.ca" google search trick. But for god's sake don't post over there or even go outside of the job-related forums.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.
Honestly, just get a job civilian side, where you'll actually do some good. In the military side you'll just be tending to cry-babies that don't want to do pt and people that don't want to shave, with the odd actually injured person now and again

Edit: It'll be way easier to get a job civvie side aswell

Vadoc
Dec 31, 2007

Guess who made waffles...


And getting chits so that they can request Gucchi comfortable boots.

Hizawk
Jun 18, 2004

High on the Lions.

Vadoc posted:

And getting chits so that they can request Gucchi comfortable boots.

Is this still an issue anywhere? In 2RCR if its black (or tan for tour) wear it.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Hizawk posted:

Is this still an issue anywhere? In 2RCR if its black (or tan for tour) wear it.

Did they change that particular rule CF-wide? Because I know when I got out, my unit wouldn't even let you wear Goretex boots for parades. Even though my combat boots were a size too large and constantly gave me blisters.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

MA-Horus posted:

Did they change that particular rule CF-wide?
Usually it's RSM's discretion. The RSM my old unit had before the current one abhorred any boot that wasn't CF issued and the second the new RSM came into play he basically said gently caress that guy(though not literally, they're best friends)

compressioncut
Sep 3, 2003

Eat knuckle, Fritz!
Please take a look at this thread http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,4249.200.html (that's page 9). I really doubt nurses do a lot of boot/shaving chit issuing, and it appears to be a very small occupation (around 200 people). Like I said I don't think I've ever seen a nurse in nearly 10 years. Medics, PAs and civilian doctors seem to take care of most of the day-to-day stuff. Army.ca forums user "MedCorps" appears to be a CF nurse and a reasonably active poster.

One definite downside versus civilian nursing is that you certainly don't get overtime pay. I'm not sure if CF nurses are compensated salary wise due to that, pay guides are available online. Another downside that you may not have considered is the generally lovely, lovely locations of most bases in the CF, particularly the major ones (I'm looking at you Gagetown).

stevobob
Nov 16, 2008

Alchemy - the study of how to turn LS1's into a 20B. :science:


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stevobob fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Aug 16, 2017

Hizawk
Jun 18, 2004

High on the Lions.

stevobob posted:

SWATs kick so much rear end. Not one blister after my last BFT with them.


Garrison boots though, they have no durability, walk through a few rivers and they are ruined forever.

Barrakketh
Apr 19, 2011

Victory and defeat are the same. I urge you to act but not to reflect on the fruit of the act. Seek detachment. Fight without desire.

Don't withdraw into solitude. You must act. Yet action mustn't dominate you. In the heart of action you must remain free from all attachment.
I'm very partial to lowa boots. Very partial.

M. Propagandalf
Aug 9, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
For SQ, the platoon sergeant had us do a land seal crawl on asphalt. I had new boots that had just been issued at the time, and in the span of five seconds, the pre-owned Mark IIIs I had became my best pair of boots. I haven't used the "newer" set since, and I've been trying to swap it for something that's not Mark IIIs, which are the only boots I own.

This video makes me lust for new boots. Presented by Research Indicates.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.
You'd best not be poo poo-talkin' mk. IIIs, boy

Fraser CDN
May 16, 2009
MORON
I seem to be the only one who liked the GP boots. I wasnt too big on my gortex boots but I loved my GP's. In my short time in I put enough miles on them that they had almost no tread.

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe

Barrakketh posted:

I'm very partial to lowa boots. Very partial.

They're the best, and you get what you pay for. Fortunately I got what the government paid for.

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003

by Radio Games Forum

Ruse posted:

Hey, but we left our rink, enjoy that.

Yea that's pretty sweet. The only use it's been seeing is some really uncoordinated TCNs using it as a soccer ball kicking pen.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
I had a pair of Lowas that got eaten by phase three.

I really like my OTB junglelites now though. Rivers are no longer a problem because my feet will dry in like ten minutes regardless of how wet they get.

Desi
Jul 5, 2007
This.
Changes.
EVERYTHING.
That forces.ca website is a real roller-coaster of emotion. I've been waiting for them to open up pilot applications for a little while now and every once in a while I'll pop over to that site on the off chance that they've decided to take applications prior to the new fiscal year. About a month ago I got super excited when I saw the little green checkmark pop up beside Pilot and marched my rear end down to the recruiting centre bright and early the next morning only to be told that it was a fluke as they had been taking ROTP apps and hadn't gotten around to taking it off yet and that DEO Pilots aren't expected any time before April. I have been waiting for April anyways so it wasn't a huge let down but I had gotten myself excited over nothing. Now at least a month later, that checkmark is still there, taunting me.

So yeah. Nothing to add really, just a bit of ranting. :)

Fraser CDN
May 16, 2009
MORON
Dont trust forces.ca. Just call the recruiting center and ask. Alot of the stuff on that site is wrong or was wrong last time I checked.

Barrakketh
Apr 19, 2011

Victory and defeat are the same. I urge you to act but not to reflect on the fruit of the act. Seek detachment. Fight without desire.

Don't withdraw into solitude. You must act. Yet action mustn't dominate you. In the heart of action you must remain free from all attachment.
If it makes you feel any better it took me 2 years to get through every hurdle when I first enlisted.

The following years have only affirmed my belief that recruiting is where you exile the truly incompetent and dangerous morons.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
Yeah it took me three years to join the reserves. Lost paperwork all over the place. This is normal.

Desi
Jul 5, 2007
This.
Changes.
EVERYTHING.
Yeah, I'm taking the website as just loose guidance and referring to the recruiting centre for the most accurate info. It is a reassuring that it took you guys a while to get in. If its any consolation to anyone else, its not just the CF that are like this. I work in the federal core public service right now and it took 8 years of applying every year to get an interview/job. After that I spent two years on 90-day contracts and then was finally bridged in. Oh, and HR took about 2 months to figure out they are supposed to pay me. 'Tis bureaucracy I guess; can't deal with it now, surely won't be able to deal with it on the inside.

I'm just viewing this waiting period as a opportunity to strengthen my application. Physically, I'm a different person already from who I was a year ago when I decided I wanted this. I've also taking hyper-intensive language training to get my French levels up (also kindof needed for my current job). In the next couple of weeks I'm going to start volunteering at the foodbank and see if I can get in with Habitat for Humanity. I figure I'm applying to be an officer, and as a pilot, I may as well give it my 110%. Anyone got any more ideas of what I can get myself involved in to reinforce the community/leadership aspect of my application?

Mantle
May 15, 2004

tuyop posted:

Yeah it took me three years to join the reserves. Lost paperwork all over the place. This is normal.

What's up 3 years in waiting buddy? I've had to do ridiculous things like: fill out the same paperwork by hand 4 times because they said it was out of date every time I got to the next step. Go in for medical checkups multiple times because their validity only lasts for one year. Go in to an interview scheduled at 11am, wait around for the Captain until 3pm, speak to him for 10 mins then leave. Told an 8am exam should be done by noon, finish the exam at 4:30pm.

And this is before I am getting paid to waste my time.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I've been trying to get into 33 CBG as a reservist since even before I moved to Ottawa this past September. I have a current CFAT and Medical from a previous ROTP application but the process keeps dragging.

What steps can I take to be proactive? I really don't want to miss intake because I took to long or missed the deadline for a reserve trade.

compressioncut
Sep 3, 2003

Eat knuckle, Fritz!

Desi posted:

I'm just viewing this waiting period as a opportunity to strengthen my application. Physically, I'm a different person already from who I was a year ago when I decided I wanted this. I've also taking hyper-intensive language training to get my French levels up (also kindof needed for my current job). In the next couple of weeks I'm going to start volunteering at the foodbank and see if I can get in with Habitat for Humanity. I figure I'm applying to be an officer, and as a pilot, I may as well give it my 110%. Anyone got any more ideas of what I can get myself involved in to reinforce the community/leadership aspect of my application?

That is an excellent approach to getting yourself well-rounded. Most pilot applicants I meet think that the only thing they need is flying experience (PFE), which is absolutely not true. If you have some already then that's cool, if you don't, I'd just do a private pilot ground school and get your student pilot permit and radio operator license. That shows interest in aviation and gives you a bit of a kickstart in learning - it's what I did and it worked out.

They are hammering the poo poo out of guys with PFE at Portage. A guy at my university did Portage last summer, and 12 of 20 guys on his course failed, almost all, maybe entirely all, with PFE (including commercial licenses). You also lose makeup flights if you have more than a certain number of previous flying hours (I think it's 100).

Anyway, beyond the charity stuff look to get involved with some sports, preferably team sports. Even better, get involved at the organizational level instead of just playing. They like that.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Desi posted:

Yeah, I'm taking the website as just loose guidance and referring to the recruiting centre for the most accurate info. It is a reassuring that it took you guys a while to get in. If its any consolation to anyone else, its not just the CF that are like this. I work in the federal core public service right now and it took 8 years of applying every year to get an interview/job. After that I spent two years on 90-day contracts and then was finally bridged in. Oh, and HR took about 2 months to figure out they are supposed to pay me. 'Tis bureaucracy I guess; can't deal with it now, surely won't be able to deal with it on the inside.

Heh, my pay gets screwed up regularly.

I've been in for almost five years at this point, for the first four my pays varied wildly from -200 every two weeks for a 9 month stint (yeah they actually withdrew money from my chequing account), to 24 000 one time because someone placed a wrong zero somewhere. In this five year time period, I'd say there is maybe a cumulative 18 months of correct paycheques, and every issue takes weeks or months to get sorted out. Most recently I was being charged 800 dollars a month for quarters and rations that I wasn't supposed to be paying, this took two months to fix. It's spectacular.

BIG NORTH
Jul 7, 2007

I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE DEAN
For those concerned about the time to get accepted, like all others, my offer took ages to come in. Lost paperwork, closed trades, it's a tough time to get in right now. I applied in September 2010, and I just swore in last week.

CFLRS here I come.

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Desi
Jul 5, 2007
This.
Changes.
EVERYTHING.

compressioncut posted:

That is an excellent approach to getting yourself well-rounded. Most pilot applicants I meet think that the only thing they need is flying experience (PFE), which is absolutely not true. If you have some already then that's cool, if you don't, I'd just do a private pilot ground school and get your student pilot permit and radio operator license. That shows interest in aviation and gives you a bit of a kickstart in learning - it's what I did and it worked out.

They are hammering the poo poo out of guys with PFE at Portage. A guy at my university did Portage last summer, and 12 of 20 guys on his course failed, almost all, maybe entirely all, with PFE (including commercial licenses). You also lose makeup flights if you have more than a certain number of previous flying hours (I think it's 100).

Anyway, beyond the charity stuff look to get involved with some sports, preferably team sports. Even better, get involved at the organizational level instead of just playing. They like that.

I think I may have had this discussion with yourself or someone else several pages back. I actually obtained my Private Pilot's License back in December and am sitting at about 75 hours right now. I'm not flying super regularly, but I will probably go over 100 if and when I ever make it to Portage.

As for team sports, I'll look into it. I was never a very fit guy growing up so I kindof didn't pursue it. I've been whipping my rear end into shape for the past little while and something like that may be a good supplement. I'll need to investigate a bit.

The biggest, most glaring, draw back I have on my application is my education. I have a Political Science degree (which they told me is still okay) but by GPA was... not stellar.

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