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ttam posted:Anyone have a recommendation for a Canon EF to Sony E-mount lens adapter? I have a NEX-5N and a pile of Canon lenses I would like to use but the only reviews I find for adapters are uniformly terrible. Unless you like shooting wide open all the time, you're probably not going to be super happy with an EF-to-NEX adapter because EF lenses have no external aperture controls. There are adapters with a sort of aperture built in to them but it's not a proper aperture setup so you can get some wicked vignetting with them.
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HPL posted:The new Canon G1X is out. Imagine a G12 with a sensor almost as large as an APS-C sensor. I think it's cool except for the lens. 28-112mm F2.8-5.8 isn't terribly impressive. I think they should have either gone for a fast pancake prime like the X100 or an f/2-2.8 type of zoom like the X10. An f/2-2.8 type of zoom to match X10 would have to be absolutely massive in size, considering that the G1X sensor is six times larger than the X10 sensor.
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Jan 9, 2012 17:06
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HPL posted:Unless you like shooting wide open all the time, you're probably not going to be super happy with an EF-to-NEX adapter because EF lenses have no external aperture controls. There are adapters with a sort of aperture built in to them but it's not a proper aperture setup so you can get some wicked vignetting with them. I understand that, and these won't be the primary lenses on the camera. I am looking for something else to mess around with as long as the price isn't out of control.
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Jan 9, 2012 17:09
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ttam posted:I understand that, and these won't be the primary lenses on the camera. I am looking for something else to mess around with as long as the price isn't out of control. I'd recommend an M42-to-NEX adapter then because M42 lenses are plentiful because so many companies made them and the M42 mount is super simple mechanically so it's cheap to make. You can probably get an M42 adapter and lens for the same price as an EF-to-NEX adapter alone.
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Jan 9, 2012 17:16
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HPL posted:The new Canon G1X is out. Imagine a G12 with a sensor almost as large as an APS-C sensor. I think it's cool except for the lens. 28-112mm F2.8-5.8 isn't terribly impressive. I think they should have either gone for a fast pancake prime like the X100 or an f/2-2.8 type of zoom like the X10. I was intrigued till I read that the sensor size is gutted by the way slower lens, and at the long end, wide open, the slower lens ends up with the same DoF as on the X10 because of it's much faster lens speed. Not to mention that the VF on the G1X still looks like unuseable poo poo compared to the nice large bright one of the X10 Unless the G1X sensor is revolutionary with noise, I'd still pick the X10 over it.
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Jan 9, 2012 17:27
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Press blurb for the G1X http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/09/CanonG1X_Preview Blimey.
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Jan 9, 2012 17:31
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poopinmymouth posted:I was intrigued till I read that the sensor size is gutted by the way slower lens, and at the long end, wide open, the slower lens ends up with the same DoF as on the X10 because of it's much faster lens speed. Not to mention that the VF on the G1X still looks like unuseable poo poo compared to the nice large bright one of the X10 I think the G1X is a good first step, but I wouldn't buy it. It sets the table for a potentially interesting second generation product. I like the idea of an intermediate sensor between m43 and APS-C. Given that APS-C sensors today can crank out performance exceeding full frame sensors of yesterday, and given the relatively impressive performance of m43 sensors today, I think it's the right thing to do for a compact camera. Things like lenses and viewfinders can be worked out. They have established a good foundation to build on.
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Are "X" and "1" the only cool letters and numbers these days?
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Jan 9, 2012 18:13
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detailed specs for the fuji xpro 1 is revealed: http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/01/09/detailed-fuji-x-pro-1-specs/
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Cacator posted:Are "X" and "1" the only cool letters and numbers these days? In Japan, yes. At least we're finally over the "GP"/"GT" hump.
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Jan 9, 2012 18:52
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I await the canon 800D's announcement with baited breath.
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keyframe posted:detailed specs for the fuji xpro 1 is revealed: Big boner here. If it looks as good after Fuji makes the announcement and the price actually lands where it is rumored, I am pulling the trigger on it.
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poopinmymouth posted:I was intrigued till I read that the sensor size is gutted by the way slower lens, and at the long end, wide open, the slower lens ends up with the same DoF as on the X10 because of it's much faster lens speed. Not to mention that the VF on the G1X still looks like unuseable poo poo compared to the nice large bright one of the X10 I don't know about that. If you do the math, G1X still has noticable better DOF control and low light performance than the X10. Now id you prefer Fuji color is a different story. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jan 9, 2012 |
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Clayton Bigsby posted:Big boner here. Boner dissipating at the expected 1700USD price for body only.
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Does anyone see whether the twisting the lens on the G1X will control zoom or focus? I'm guessing zoom. Really wish it was focus (with an EVF). Also- I'm hoping the specs are wrong about 20cm close focus distance! This would be a great macro camera if you could get close to the subject.
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whatever7 posted:I don't know about that. If you do the math, G1X still has noticable better DOF control and low light performance than the X10. DPreview claims they did the math and where I got the quote from. F5.8 on a 4/3s sized sensor is about what the X10 at 2.8 is.
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poopinmymouth posted:DPreview claims they did the math and where I got the quote from. F5.8 on a 4/3s sized sensor is about what the X10 at 2.8 is. So G1X at wide end has about 1 step better DOF than X1 , edit: and at the tele end 1 step worst DOF control? whatever7 fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jan 9, 2012 |
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whatever7 posted:Why the hell did they convert it to m43. It should have converted to FF. Yeah about that, plus at the long end, it's lower noise is probably negated. X10 can use ISO 800 at f/2.8 where the GX1 would need ISO 3200ish to expose correctly at f/5.8
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3200 isn't too bad on Canon APS-C- this will be slightly smaller but also newer sensor.
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Clayton Bigsby posted:Boner dissipating at the expected 1700USD price for body only. Oh drat. At that price I don't think I can even consider it an option even if I sell my X100 off. I think with the release of Fuji's new camera I don't think I'm even remotely interested in getting a DSLR ever again.
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Clayton Bigsby posted:Boner dissipating at the expected 1700USD price for body only. If the AF/MF is good (this is what will make or break this cam) it will be worth it for that price imo. I wan't people to use this for a month or two and see the complaints before I hop on board with it.
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DPreviews X-Pro1 hands'on preview http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/09/FujifilmXPro1_Preview
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Mest0r posted:I think with the release of Fuji's new camera I don't think I'm even remotely interested in getting a DSLR ever again. If money weren't an issue, I would seriously consider switching over to a NEX 7 and LA-EA2 adapter for serious stuff and rangefinder or NEX lenses for travel and loving around. When you consider that the LA-EA2 isn't much larger than, say, an EF, Nikon or Pentax to NEX adapter with no electronics in them, it's a good compromise.
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The black limited edition X100 which comes with leather case, lens hood, filter and adapter ring is going to set you (me?) back $1700. gently caress! Really don't think the black paint and accessories will be worth the $600 premium over the regular one. But it is marginally sexier.
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Cacator posted:The black limited edition X100 which comes with leather case, lens hood, filter and adapter ring is going to set you (me?) back $1700. gently caress! Really don't think the black paint and accessories will be worth the $600 premium over the regular one. But it is marginally sexier. Man up. HCB painted his Leica black. You can too.
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HPL posted:If money weren't an issue, I would seriously consider switching over to a NEX 7 and LA-EA2 adapter for serious stuff and rangefinder or NEX lenses for travel and loving around. If money is not an issue, the Fuji body is still noticibly better than N7. Fuji has OVF Fuji has AF and small 28mm and 50mm lenses (equivalent) ; Sony has only one 35mm lens (equivalent). All the other Sony lenses are jokes. Why the hell did they make a 50mm APS lens? it's too long for a standard and too short for portroit. Plus they all look like soda cans. All those Voigtlander M lenses will look better on the Fuji. Also sensor is slightly better. The fuji sensor should have better high ISO and better contrast for lower resolution. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jan 10, 2012 |
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I've used both the X100 and A77 viewfinders, and I have to say, Sony's new EVF is outstanding. I would prefer it to any APS-C OVF. The X100 viewfinder is good and I like the hybrid technology however we'll have to wait to see how it will work with interchangeable lenses and zooming/etc. I would not hesitate to use the NEX-7/A77 EVF for anything though, plus it's awesome for shooting in the dark because of auto gain.
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Clayton Bigsby posted:Boner dissipating at the expected 1700USD price for body only. 1700 is absolutely in line with the market's offerings plus inflation and dollar devaluation. Seriously everyone said 1300 was too expensive for the X100 but enough people bought it anyway. I mean, sure I'd love a 1,500 kit with the 50mm equiv, but this is basically a Leica M9 at 1/7 the cost.
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I'd gladly pay an extra $1500 if it were full frame. I would love to use legacy glass on this thing, but I honestly don't get people that buy Leica M lenses to use with APS-C sensors. However, since the lenses don't seem astronomically expensive and they're making a decent selection of fast primes, it could be a decent enough system in its own right.
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Uncle Ivan posted:I'd gladly pay an extra $1500 if it were full frame. I would love to use legacy glass on this thing, but I honestly don't get people that buy Leica M lenses to use with APS-C sensors. However, since the lenses don't seem astronomically expensive and they're making a decent selection of fast primes, it could be a decent enough system in its own right. Why not? Good glass is good glass. I am glad we are not getting another overpriced full frame camera.
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Actually now that i think about it. I might sell my 5D, 35L and 85mm in order to get the Xpro1 with 35 and 60mm lenses. I bet the noise/dynamic range/resolution on the Xpro1 will match or beat the 5D with way smaller size.
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Uncle Ivan posted:The X100 viewfinder is good and I like the hybrid technology however we'll have to wait to see how it will work with interchangeable lenses and zooming/etc. Much the same way it works for any classic rangefinder, except this one won't be bound to it's widest lens quite the same way. It'll have two magnifications, one with about a 27mm perspective and at about 50 (they'll actually be slightly wider, with frame lines drawn within, close to the borders). With anything more telephoto than 50, framelines will draw down to give you accurate framing. I imagine the same deal goes for anything from 27-49. I would expect that once they introduce zoom lenses to the system (in 2013), you'll see dynamically moving frame lines as you change the focal length. You can switch between the two magnifications manually and can also enter in a series of third party lenses and their focal lengths, tell the camera which one is currently attached, and it'll give you the right framelines. My only disappointment with this camera is the EVF resolution, which doesn't really come close to what Sony is offering with the Nex-7 and 5n. Considering Fuji themselves are making an M-Mount adapter for the X-Pro, they know a huge draw of the camera is adapting manual focus lenses and while you'll be able to see framelines in the OVF with third-party lenses, users will have to use the EVF to get proper focus. That said, if you're staying entirely within the Fujinon lens system, things looks great. Focusing by wire is lame, but it's totally the way mirrorless is going. An 18mm, 35mm, 60mm, as well as future 14mm, some sort of telephoto, and at least a couple decent zoom lenses (Fuji said there are 9 more lenses coming, which is pretty stunning) is an incredibly attractive proposition from a lens maker like Fuji. They've just announced their flagship. Unless a FF is coming (please). moonduck fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Jan 10, 2012 |
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Yea the EVF of the x100 was atrocious. I am hoping they improved on it somewhat with this one.
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keyframe posted:Yea the EVF of the x100 was atrocious. I am hoping they improved on it somewhat with this one. The EVF is not atrocious, don't exaggerate.
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I'm really exited by the XPro1, though not for the typical reason - I hope it gives Sony the kick in the rear end it needs to get some small, fast NEX lenses on the market. Competition is a good thing.
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^^ We now have two big players in the mirrorless APS-C camera game and they've already expanded somewhat into that undefined space in very interesting and innovative ways. They should spur each other on quite well. Here's hoping Sony gets their lens act together, because they're going to have to go a long way to keep up with what should be expected from Fuji. poopinmymouth posted:The EVF is not atrocious, don't exaggerate. On the scale of EVFs out there, it's about average. The problem is that until very recently, EVFs have been a pretty awful way of framing your photos. Maybe Fuji has found a decent compromise with their new EVF, but the resolution numbers (1.4 million dots from what I read) aren't all that great.
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I really don't care about the resolution of the EVF. Does any one know if you can one-button zoom in with the EVF. That's crucial for MF.
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whatever7 posted:I really don't care about the resolution of the EVF. Does any one know if you can one-button zoom in with the EVF. That's crucial for MF. You can do it with the X100, so should be able to with the Pro.
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^^ Good to hear More XPro1 porn    
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X-Pro 1 sample images are up on the official site now: http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_pro1/sample_images/ Very nice, but it's not like any company would put crappy shots on their own website.  Edit: more here http://fujifilm-x.com/x-pro1/en/gallery/sample-images/index.html RustedChrome fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Jan 10, 2012 |
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