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Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica
From io9's latest spoiler article, the live action series has a title and plot now.

quote:

Producer and longtime George Lucas collaborator Rick McCallum dropped some key hints about the long-planned live-action Star Wars TV show - the one that supposedly has 50 scripts already written and is just waiting for the costs of visual effects to drop before moving forward. McCallum revealed the show's working title is Star Wars: Underworld, it is indeed set between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope, that "it's about that period when the Empire is trying to take things [over]", and that the show's primary focus will be on the criminal underbelly of the Star Wars universe. McCallum elaborates:

"It's underneath what's going on. It's the criminals and the gangs. The guys who are running Wall Street, basically. The guys who are running the United States."

On one hand, if it's anything like Cad Bane in the new Clone Wars series, it'll be awesome. On the other hand, expect a lot of heavy-handed, hamfisted metaphors for current events.

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SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
I welcome anything that isn't Jedi or Skywalker related these days.

Though please god, I hope there isn't any young Han/Lando stuff in it written by Lucas :gonk:.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

McGann posted:

To be fair, the second Clone Wars show has some great moments. I've only watched the first season, but there are some golden episodes in there.

I think you'd probably enjoy Rebellion , the continuation of Empire. It has "wtf" moments like every EU piece but overall I think it's pretty great for people who want more military-centric OT stuff, rather than Jedi Jedi Jedi Jedi and PT PT PT PT.

Though I might be remembering through rose-glasses, when I did my speed-run through all the EU Material I was also smoking a lot of weed.

People keep telling me "oh, Clone Wars isn't so bad!" but I don't think I could invest much time watching a series about Anakin Skywalker and Jar Jar. Even if there's a few episodes that are gems here and there, your subject matter is still poo poo... Not to mention the actual pilot of the series that was released in theaters left a REALLY bad taste in my mouth.

However, I have seen the original, 2D Animated series, and I have it on DVD. I think it's allright, but it is hugely overrated. Seriously, they're not that good. People talk about that show like it's the second coming of Christ. I guess it just looks like that, because the prequels and the EU are just that bad.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

SeanBeansShako posted:

Though please god, I hope there isn't any young Han/Lando stuff in it written by Lucas :gonk:.

Hahahahahaha, yeah this prayer is going to be unanswered.

404GoonNotFound
Aug 6, 2006

The McRib is back!?!?
Concerning the live action series, don't they still want Sam Witwer on board as Galen Marek/Starkiller? Because people still love The Force Unleashed after that second game :rolleye:

Crowetron
Apr 29, 2009

If they cast Donald Faison as young Lando, I will watch every goddamn episode.

Tumblr of scotch
Mar 13, 2006

Please, don't be my neighbor.

Crowetron posted:

If they cast Donald Faison as young Lando, I will watch every goddamn episode.
I could see Dulé Hill in the role if Psych ends (please no :ohdear:) before the SW series starts.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
I don't know why we're discussing anyone other than the Blackstar Warrior.

Ville Valo
Sep 17, 2004

I'm waiting for your call
and I'm ready to take
your six six six
in my heart

Crowetron posted:

If they cast Donald Faison as young Lando, I will watch every goddamn episode.

I believe you mean Donald Glover.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Phylodox posted:

I don't know why we're discussing anyone other than the Blackstar Warrior.

holy poo poo :stare:

crazyvanman
Dec 31, 2010
So this is probably a question that's been asked numerous times here in the thousand(s?) of pages, but I've never seen it myself, so I apologise in advance if it's getting old.

How does the geography work out, with cities, countries, districts and whatever? At first I thought about Tatooine - and I could accept that it would probably just be split up into loose areas (Bestine, Anchorhead, Eisley etc.)

But then I considered Naboo - How does that work? Theed is always spoken of as a city, but we never hear about anything bigger.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Phylodox posted:

I don't know why we're discussing anyone other than the Blackstar Warrior.

The guy who plays Han just screams "Guy in a Star Wars-themed porno playing Han"

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

Gammatron 64 posted:

People keep telling me "oh, Clone Wars isn't so bad!" but I don't think I could invest much time watching a series about Anakin Skywalker and Jar Jar. Even if there's a few episodes that are gems here and there, your subject matter is still poo poo... Not to mention the actual pilot of the series that was released in theaters left a REALLY bad taste in my mouth.


I never understood the love that series gets. People say it captures the magic of the OT and doesn't have any of the dumb prequel stuff. What the hell? There are drat Jar-Jar themed episodes where he saves the day through dumb clumsy luck. There are cross-dressing droids. And that Hutt.

I probably wouldn't be so drat put off by it if people weren't hyping it to high heaven saying it's what the prequels should have been.

quote:

However, I have seen the original, 2D Animated series, and I have it on DVD. I think it's allright, but it is hugely overrated. Seriously, they're not that good. People talk about that show like it's the second coming of Christ. I guess it just looks like that, because the prequels and the EU are just that bad.

I was bored to death during it but then again anime has no appeal to me.

WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jan 11, 2012

Arschlochkind
Mar 29, 2010

:stare:

WhyteRyce posted:

I was bored to death during it but then again anime has no appeal to me.

Wait, there's an anime Star Wars cartoon?

Darth Freddy
Feb 6, 2007

An Emperor's slightest dislike is transmitted to those who serve him, and there it is amplified into rage.

Arschlochkind posted:

Wait, there's an anime Star Wars cartoon?

Not so much anime but it was done by the same people who did samurai jack.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Ville Valo posted:

I believe you mean Donald Glover.

To be fair, they are really similar actors in terms of style (and no, I not because they are Black!).

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

crazyvanman posted:

So this is probably a question that's been asked numerous times here in the thousand(s?) of pages, but I've never seen it myself, so I apologise in advance if it's getting old.

How does the geography work out, with cities, countries, districts and whatever? At first I thought about Tatooine - and I could accept that it would probably just be split up into loose areas (Bestine, Anchorhead, Eisley etc.)

But then I considered Naboo - How does that work? Theed is always spoken of as a city, but we never hear about anything bigger.

When we hear about USA over here in Europe we also mostly just hear "New York" and "Washington", pretty much no mention of states, unless California is loving up again. I assume it's the same way we get Naboo presented: We don't care about the lower levels of organisation, so they aren't mentioned. I doubt wookiepedia has anything about it, but I imagine it like the government in Washington and similar answering to the planetary government, which then answers to the republic or the local sector or something.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Rick McCallum posted:

It's underneath what's going on. It's the criminals and the gangs. The guys who are running Wall Street, basically. The guys who are running the United States.

Oh good, since all the political commentary worked so well in the prequels.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

Grendels Dad posted:

Oh good, since all the political commentary worked so well in the prequels.

If you're not with me

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Locutus of Bald posted:

From io9's latest spoiler article, the live action series has a title and plot now.


On one hand, if it's anything like Cad Bane in the new Clone Wars series, it'll be awesome. On the other hand, expect a lot of heavy-handed, hamfisted metaphors for current events.


In the Coruscant Justice System, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. The Stormtroopers who investigate crime, and the Sith Lords who loving waste the offenders.

These are their stories.

:doink:

There's a photoshop thread in this I think...

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

WhyteRyce posted:

People say it captures the magic of the OT and doesn't have any of the dumb prequel stuff.

You've said this before but I think literally no one thinks this.

TheCommodore07
Sep 24, 2007

Scallywags on the larboard side! Open Fire!

Mister Roboto posted:

If you're not with me

The prequels were full of this. Lucas came up with Nute Gunray as an amalgamation of Newt Gingrich and Ronald Reagan. Ray-gun...gun-ray...

And Terence Stamp had this to say about Chancellor Valorum: "I said, 'What's he like, the president of the universe?' And George Lucas said, 'He's a good man but he's beleaguered—a bit like Clinton.' That was before Clinton was as beleaguered as he is now, of course."

The references were ham-fisted, stupid, and had no place in a Star Wars film.

crazyvanman
Dec 31, 2010

BonHair posted:

When we hear about USA over here in Europe we also mostly just hear "New York" and "Washington"

Ok, yeah that makes sense. I guess someone over there too would just talk about 'London' or 'Berlin'.

It's more on things like maps though, where we literally just get a few cities and nothing else.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Phylodox posted:

I don't know why we're discussing anyone other than the Blackstar Warrior.

I think this is the best fan material to ever come out of Star Wars.

Including the entirety of the EU.

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

RagnarokAngel posted:

You've said this before but I think literally no one thinks this.

Plenty of people have said it before. If it weren't for the hype and things said here or in the TV IV thread I probably never would have paid attention to it or bought the Blu-Ray before seeing an episode. Space action cartoons don't really interest me, so I wouldn't have bothered if the Star Warsy tag wasn't thrown about.

And the praise for it is never along the lines of "it's just like the lovely prequels only it has some better parts!"

I'm still willing to give it a chance though. I have season 2 sitting unopened on my shelf :(

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
It's not bad, but it rarely, if ever, does anything to elevate itself above being simply a cartoon show for kids. It's a bit more violent, with some pretty graphic (if bloodless) deaths, but that's no more "mature" than Revenge of the Sith was. I wouldn't go out of my way to watch it or buy the DVDs, but it's something I'll watch occasionally if there's nothing else on. More than half the time I'll actually watch the whole episode.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

TheCommodore07 posted:

The prequels were full of this. Lucas came up with Nute Gunray as an amalgamation of Newt Gingrich and Ronald Reagan. Ray-gun...gun-ray...

And Terence Stamp had this to say about Chancellor Valorum: "I said, 'What's he like, the president of the universe?' And George Lucas said, 'He's a good man but he's beleaguered—a bit like Clinton.' That was before Clinton was as beleaguered as he is now, of course."

The references were ham-fisted, stupid, and had no place in a Star Wars film.

George Lucas cannot write for peanuts.

NGL
Jan 15, 2003
AssKing

SeanBeansShako posted:

George Lucas cannot write for peanuts.

Which is a shame, since that's all he should be allowed to write for.

Crowetron
Apr 29, 2009

Ensign_Ricky posted:


In the Coruscant Justice System, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. The Stormtroopers who investigate crime, and the Sith Lords who loving waste the offenders.

These are their stories.

:doink:

There's a photoshop thread in this I think...

I know you're joking, but I would watch the hell out of that show.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

crazyvanman posted:

Ok, yeah that makes sense. I guess someone over there too would just talk about 'London' or 'Berlin'.

It's more on things like maps though, where we literally just get a few cities and nothing else.

Lucas isn't like Tolkien in that he actually builds a backstory to most of his settings/people; I mean this is the guy who didn't give two shits about what a 'parsec' was and had some sperging EU lackey a decade later invent some reason why what Han was saying is true.

e: Honestly I don't mind this at all (and actually like A New Hope better without all the lovely backstory), I just think it's really funny that the most "developed" universe in the modern era is controlled by someone who really doesn't care about anything not directly connected to the story.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Crowetron posted:

I know you're joking, but I would watch the hell out of that show.

This didn't quite turn out like I intended.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

computer parts posted:

I just think it's really funny that the most "developed" universe in the modern era is controlled by someone who really doesn't care about anything not directly connected to the story.

George Lucas, can't write can't direct can waffle quite a lot.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer
http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/mon-january-9-2012-george-lucas

Dear God they made Lucas seem human....

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

WhyteRyce posted:

Plenty of people have said it before.

No offense but who? I don't mean to rag on you just you say this a lot in this thread but I've seen no evidence past "You know...people say it. You know who I'm talking about. Those kinds of people."

Duckman2008 posted:

Dear God they made Lucas seem human....

I don't think George is malevolent. Inconsiderate sure, but I think he rarely means any harm in what he does, he's just so out of touch with reality sometimes that he convinces himself that the choices he makes ARE for the best.

He's a control freak and always has been, ever since he hated the stuido system and wanted to make films without "The Man" telling him how it's done, and it's a noble intention that got warped into resisting the input of others (An idealistic notion that becomes twisted by power? Hrm...)

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

RagnarokAngel posted:

No offense but who? I don't mean to rag on you just you say this a lot in this thread but I've seen no evidence past "You know...people say it. You know who I'm talking about. Those kinds of people."

This thread is 250 pages and not even the first massive SW thread. I can't name anyone just like I can't name the people who have came in and say the "I don't like the Thrawn trilogy because that I study alien art and know exactly what they'll do" complaint that has been brought up multiple times in the thread. The original 2D cartoon series came out over 5 years ago, I'm not going to remember the names of anyone who ever talked about that.

Heck in the Star Wars Clone Wars thread in TVIV has almost the same thing thing I'm complaining about in the OP
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3437081

quote:

Why to watch this series:
- It is the nearest thing we've got to the feel of the OT
- It's better than the Prequels

WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Jan 12, 2012

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

Duckman2008 posted:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/mon-january-9-2012-george-lucas

Dear God they made Lucas seem human....

You do realize that Lucas is a fat nerd just like everyone here is, right? And fat nerds tend to be bitter sociopaths who get off on the slightest bit of power--see messageboards, website admins, comic book store owners, etc.

Lucas is just like anyone here would be if given some money and influence. They'd be a gigantic manchild who thinks they are cleverer and smarter than they are.

Mister Roboto fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Jan 12, 2012

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Mister Roboto posted:

You do realize that Lucas is a fat nerd just like everyone here is, right? And fat nerds tend to be sociopaths who get off on the slightest bit of power--see messageboards, website admins, comic book store owners, etc.

Lucas is just like anyone here would be if given some money and influence. They'd be a gigantic manchild who thinks they are cleverer and smarter than they are.

Well, that is true. I don't have any money or influence and I'm already a gigantic manchild who thinks I'm cleverer and smarter than I actually am.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

Locutus of Bald posted:

Well, that is true. I don't have any money or influence and I'm already a gigantic manchild who thinks I'm cleverer and smarter than I actually am.

Hey, me too. Let's go put down those fags who don't realize a parsec isn't a unit to measure spaceship speed. Heh.

Van Dis
Jun 19, 2004
Here's why Thrawn was a cool villain, maybe the best in the whole EU. When you're 12 and you're reading Star Wars novels after having committed the OT scripts to memory you get pretty much nothing but one-dimensional characters thrown at you. Then you get to Thrawn and this guy is cool. He has class and manners and isn't just about Doing Evil, Evilly. He has hobbies. He appreciates talent whether it comes from an underling or an enemy. He knows how to lose gracefully. He's blue. When you're 12 and you've just read Kevin J. Anderson describing Moruth Doole having alien sex or some lovely Imperial commander with another superweapon or whatever, Thrawn hits you like, well, like a character who had motivations beyond Good Guy/Bad Guy. Thrawn's character isn't high literature - nothing about Star Wars is - but if you're turned off by the art psychoanalysis he does then there is nothing in the EU, in the entire Star Wars universe, for you. Unless, of course, you want alien sex a la KJA. In which case, go away.

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Decius
Oct 14, 2005

Ramrod XTreme

WhyteRyce posted:

Heck in the Star Wars Clone Wars thread in TVIV has almost the same thing thing I'm complaining about in the OP
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3437081

And I stand by it. Between TFU/TFUII, and the current stuff in the books and comics it is the nearest thing to the Star-Wars-OT feeling/atmosphere there is. Although I'd say SWTOR - for all its many, many faults - comes pretty near to the OT at times (not necessarily the "superweapon of the week"-plot of the Jedi Knight though) too. The Clone Wars is hardly the crowning achievement of Star Wars, but it is a enjoyable series with some really good episodes at times, which is pretty much more than you can say for any other Star Wars product in the last 10 years. Also some really bad ones (Force Planet arc).
And it is definitely better than the PT for the most part. Even the Lucas-mandated episodes with JarJar are far more bearable than his scenes in the PT, but that's comparing a turd with a well polished turd.

Decius fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Jan 12, 2012

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