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Speaking of Lightroom outpacing Adobe Camera Raw... The Lightroom 4 public beta is up, and the new Process Version 2012 turns everything on its head. Enjoy!
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Molten Llama posted:Speaking of Lightroom outpacing Adobe Camera Raw... The Lightroom 4 public beta is up, and the new Process Version 2012 turns everything on its head. Enjoy! Looks like it can color grade videos! Time to finally use the
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Jan 10, 2012 08:46
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Gravitom posted:How does everyone organize their files in Lightroom? Molten Llama posted:The Lightroom 4 public beta is up http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom4 What's awesome: - rethought sliders in the Develop module - clarity is WAY more sensitive! (and less halo-happy) Finally: - RGB curves - color temperature adjustment brush - grain adjustment brush - stacks in collections Gimmicky, but I might use it: - maps & books - hide module names from the top of the screen What they didn't touch: - Give me adjustment brushes for EVERYTHING. Why is this so impossible? Aperture can do it. - An actual clone tool, not this half-assed spot removal thing. (Come on, Adobe.. this isn't difficult.) Also, it's called "beta" for a reason. I got it to crash a dozen times in 20 minutes. quazi fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jan 10, 2012 |
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Jan 10, 2012 20:01
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If I use the v4 beta, will any work that is done be compatible with the final version? Or will it be lost? I skimmed the announcement page and didn't see anything, but I think I remember that the v3 beta didn't work with the real v3.
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Jan 10, 2012 21:38
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Adobe tries to make beta catalogs upgradable to release catalogs, but they don't guarantee it.
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Jan 10, 2012 22:40
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I have to ask, as I'm installing the LR 4 beta right now, did they finally revert adjustment brushes to saving the settings between adjustment types? In LR 1 and 2, you could select exposure and set it to say +1, then go select clarity and put it at -50, and when you went back to exposure it would go back to it's previous setting of +1. In LR 3 you have to set the amount every time you switch between adjustments, and it's annoying as hell. Anyone know of a work around to that?
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Jan 11, 2012 02:55
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quazi posted:- hide module names from the top of the screen THANK YOU ADOBE. I know I should use keyboard shortcuts to move from module to module but I just don't, and I've hit the wrong module so many times 
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Jan 11, 2012 03:32
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Gravitom posted:Well space is cheap but I don't really trust local storage. I have a RAID1 but I religiously upload to an online backup service. Those RAW files do add up and when it's a friend's party I shot 3 years ago that I just through on Facebook; I don't really see much harm in deleting the RAW. For shoots that I know will only ever exist as JPGs I just shoot as JPGs. If I thought there was a reason to shoot in RAW, that's what I keep. I also organize LR by just laying out the FS in my 'camera' folder by year and then event, sometimes the event has a date, depends on the event. Each event folder is zipped and uploaded to S3 for backup as well. The current years folder of pictures are locally on my macbook, all previous years live on my NAS which is mounted and available to the macbook/LR. Would be interested to see how others manage their photo collections as well.
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Jan 11, 2012 09:25
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quazi posted:
am I missing something? You could do this in 3.x
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Jan 11, 2012 09:43
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joelcamefalling posted:am I missing something? You could do this in 3.x
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Jan 11, 2012 17:27
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Yeah, now I can hide the print/web strip that I have not used once in my three (?) years working with LR and not get angry when I accidentally click on them 
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Jan 11, 2012 19:11
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I wonder if SA has a user named "HDR" who wandered into the dorkroom one day because he likes taking photos, saw this thread and wondered why we hate him even though he's never posted here.
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Jan 11, 2012 21:09
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HookShot posted:I wonder if SA has a user named "HDR" who wandered into the dorkroom one day because he likes taking photos, saw this thread and wondered why we hate him even though he's never posted here. Sorry to kill your attempts at comedy, but no, he doesn't exist: http://forums.somethingawful.com/member.php?action=getinfo&username=HDR
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Jan 11, 2012 21:39
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xzzy posted:Sorry to kill your attempts at comedy, but no, he doesn't exist: Hey SA, I'd like you guys to meet my friend, Buzz Killington. Buzz, these are the guys.
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Jan 11, 2012 21:40
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QPZIL posted:Hey SA, I'd like you guys to meet my friend, Buzz Killington. Sorry, he doesn't exist either. http://forums.somethingawful.com/member.php?action=getinfo&username=Buzz%20Killington 
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Jan 11, 2012 22:02
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Medpak posted:For shoots that I know will only ever exist as JPGs I just shoot as JPGs. If I thought there was a reason to shoot in RAW, that's what I keep. Well I still think there is benefit to shooting raw for casual stuff. Granted most of the time you won't need it but being able to push exposure has saved plenty of shots for me. I just don't keep them around for long. I'm debating having a folder tree for Lightroom full of DNGs and a completely separate one for Picasa full of JPGs that I sync to my web albums. I think that will solve all my problems with mixing the files. Does anyone do this?
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Jan 13, 2012 02:28
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Medpak posted:For shoots that I know will only ever exist as JPGs I just shoot as JPGs. If I thought there was a reason to shoot in RAW, that's what I keep.
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Jan 14, 2012 03:27
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I have one gigantic LR library because I'm dumb with computers. On the bright side, when I decide to go back and re-edit a photo, it's pretty easy to just go back 2000 photos and find the approximate date that I took the photo in and then find it from there. I also shoot in RAW 100% of the time. I've almost always got more than enough storage space and I like the flexibility it offers. I don't keep my RAWs of snapshots (except for the magic part of my computer that keeps them in my LR catalogue), though if I do a big trip/series/whatever that I think is important I always back them up before I do any post.
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Jan 14, 2012 08:58
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I'm giving the lightroom 4 beta a try. So far I like the controls very much. I think I may have to upgrade when it comes out and go over a lot of my old photos and see if I can make them look a little better. I always find myself fighting the 'over processed' look when I'm working on stuff. I suppose where that line is crossed depends a lot on the person though.
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Jan 14, 2012 17:14
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quazi posted:I guess I'm the only one who organizes everything in the folder tree instead of collections. Performance on the adjustment brushes is appalling. Want to boost clarity on a majority of the photo via adjustment brush? Be prepared to sit there and wait for 10 minutes as it applies. I'd love to just globally apply what I want and then mask out what I don't, but I don't believe LR can do that.
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Jan 16, 2012 00:54
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Cyberbob posted:Performance on the adjustment brushes is appalling. Want to boost clarity on a majority of the photo via adjustment brush? Be prepared to sit there and wait for 10 minutes as it applies. Nope, no real masking. This is the one area I think they'll shy away from so as not to eat into Photoshop, but it's a real shame. Maybe Aperture could mix it up in that area.
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Jan 16, 2012 01:17
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quazi posted:I guess I'm the only one who organizes everything in the folder tree instead of collections.
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Jan 16, 2012 04:12
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Where do I start learning how to use Lightroom and or PS? Beyond just moving sliders this way or that way, I don't know what I'm doing. Also, everything in lightroom looks brighter, then when I export to jpg, it is quite a bit darker. Why is it doing that? I just bought this book. Anything else that will help me gain some confidence with editing photos?
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Jan 18, 2012 23:47
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tijag posted:Where do I start learning how to use Lightroom and or PS? Beyond just moving sliders this way or that way, I don't know what I'm doing. Also, everything in lightroom looks brighter, then when I export to jpg, it is quite a bit darker. Why is it doing that? Go onto the Adobe website and go through some of their tutorials. A lot of the tutorials by Juliane Kost are fantastic. That's how I got going, and then it's just playing with things from there.
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Jan 18, 2012 23:55
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I got proficient with Lightroom pretty quickly from Lynda.com tutorials. http://www.lynda.com/Lightroom-3-tutorials/photoshop-essential-training/59972-2.html
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Jan 19, 2012 00:05
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tijag posted:Where do I start learning how to use Lightroom and or PS? Beyond just moving sliders this way or that way, I don't know what I'm doing. Also, everything in lightroom looks brighter, then when I export to jpg, it is quite a bit darker. Why is it doing that? could this be because Lightroom uses ProPhoto while jpgs use sRGB and AdobeRGB?
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Jan 19, 2012 00:15
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tijag posted:Where do I start learning how to use Lightroom and or PS? Beyond just moving sliders this way or that way, I don't know what I'm doing. Also, everything in lightroom looks brighter, then when I export to jpg, it is quite a bit darker. Why is it doing that? Good starting point with $0 cost can be found here: http://www.lightroomforums.net/forumdisplay.php?26-Tips-Tricks-amp-The-Starter-Kit-(read-only)
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Jan 19, 2012 01:05
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Somebody school me on cloning/masking. Here is the issue: That frame impaling my friend's head needs to go. I tried creating a rough lasso-selection and then using refine Cockwhore fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Jan 25, 2012 |
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Jan 25, 2012 21:31
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Cockwhore posted:Somebody school me on cloning/masking. Here is the issue: I mask people out all the time. My process is to duplicate the background in the stack and insert a Black & White adjustment layer between the two. I use the Quick Selection Tool to select the person (use Alt to make adjustments when you need to push it back in) as best I can then create a mask. Now the person is in color and the background is in B&W, it makes it easy to see where I need to refine painting the mask. Hitting \ will show the mask but for fine details like hair I'll sometimes rely on the color vs. b&w disparity. For something like this where you have the background showing through in between the hair you will need to get in there and do some really fine mask painting. You can definitely separate her from the background with some meticulous masking. I don't know if you can reconstruct that much of the background and have it look good though.
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Jan 25, 2012 22:12
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I personally have a really hard time cloning over a wall whose color is at a gradient due to lighting. Is there a really easy method for it that I'm unaware of?
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Jan 25, 2012 22:13
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Thanks, ThisQuietReverie. So far I've always used something like a pure white background to judge the quality of the mask, but a b&w layer would be much better, as it'd allow me to see parts that are masked out. That said, my problem with zooming in and using a brush is mostly the fact that there are often single strands of hair which end up being only a few px wide; when I mask them, the brush ends up bring too hard, and it looks awkward. Part of the problem seems to be that strands of hair are often thin enough to be transparent and show parts of the background through. Do you adjust the transparency of the brush, along with its size/softness (and is there a convenient shortcut)? Also, I'll echo RangerScum's question re: gradients and cloning. My original idea was to knock out the whole background and replace it with a single color. edit: I actually meant refine edge, when I said refine mask earlier. It (understandably) struggled with the low contrast areas. VVV Cockwhore fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jan 25, 2012 |
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Jan 25, 2012 22:27
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If you have CS5 you can use the Refine Edge tool which helps with selecting hair etc http://tv.adobe.com/watch/photoshopcafe-tv/new-in-photoshop-cs5-cutout-and-refine-edge/
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Jan 25, 2012 22:39
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Yeah, it isn't going to be easy. I use the History Brush set to a very low flow to paint in Multiply or Screen with a soft brush to blend gradient lighting. I've also used the Gradient Tool to drop down some gradients in a multiply layer at an extremely low opacity to help even things out.
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Jan 25, 2012 22:48
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Topaz Remask. It will do this for you. Also, to replace it with good contents you can then do a second mask where you cut out the frame, and the girl, then select the empty space and use PS5's uncle phil to fill in the space. Since there will be no subject, and no frame, it will only be working with a color gradient and empty space. This is pretty much an ideal scenario for it's use.
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Jan 25, 2012 23:30
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I can't get my head around colour spaces On the left is a photo I'm editing in Lightroom, on the right is the same photo viewed in Chrome. I just want my drat photos to look the same in browsers as they do in Lightroom!
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Jan 26, 2012 14:14
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psylent posted:I can't get my head around colour spaces Everything I do in Lightroom looks substantially different when I look at it in Chrome later. Usually much darker. I hate it.
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Jan 26, 2012 16:45
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are you exporting to sRGB? Chrome has appalling colour management so it shits itself at any other profile than sRGB.
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Jan 26, 2012 16:57
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tijag posted:Everything I do in Lightroom looks substantially different when I look at it in Chrome later. I thought this had to do with me not using a calibrated monitor... Interesting.
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Jan 26, 2012 17:12
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Shmoogy posted:I thought this had to do with me not using a calibrated monitor... Interesting. Not necessarily, every single program can implement color in a completely unique way if it so chooses! It's far more complex a problem than is reasonable.. look up stories about how NASA processes their images for public consumption if you want to get a glimpse of that world.
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Paragon8 posted:are you exporting to sRGB? Chrome has appalling colour management so it shits itself at any other profile than sRGB. I am exporting to sRGB.
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