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JustFrakkingDoIt posted:i was just being hyperbolic about an episode i liked when i was a kid i remember watching that episode after learning about the xenu thing in scientology a couple years ago and just being confused as poo poo
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NINbuntu 64 posted:i remember watching that episode after learning about the xenu thing in scientology a couple years ago and just being confused as poo poo it's all true if you want the full experience man up and sign on with Sea Org
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Jan 13, 2012 07:35
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JustFrakkingDoIt posted:i was just being hyperbolic about an episode i liked when i was a kid "Everyone, get down on the floor!!" - Deanna Troi
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Transporters in Trek exist because TOS didn't have a budget high enough to show people taking shuttles down to planets every week. Any attempt to make them internally consistent is doomed to failure because they were literally plot devices. I've got this paperback "making of star trek" book that was published while TOS was still on the air and it is loving fascinating, since it was before everybody started taking it so goddamn seriously.
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Jan 13, 2012 08:43
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Heresiarch posted:Transporters in Trek exist because TOS didn't have a budget high enough to show people taking shuttles down to planets every week. Any attempt to make them internally consistent is doomed to failure because they were literally plot devices. this is a dumb opinion to have because you can still make them internally consistent by outlining their functionality after their first appearance provided they dont do anything too crazy like transport a duck, a turkey, and a chicken to make a turducken
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i too have serious opinions about transporter canon
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yeah man who cares about internal consistency *car horn changes functionality each time you use it*
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NINbuntu 64 posted:yeah man who cares about internal consistency *car horn changes functionality each time you use it* i would be okay with my car horn surprising me with "la cucaracha" every now and again. i don't know how this would help me during intergalactic battles though.
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Jan 13, 2012 10:14
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fork bomb posted:i would be okay with my car horn surprising me with "la cucaracha" every now and again. i don't know how this would help me during intergalactic battles though. no, every so often the car horn would trap you in a bizarre fantasy world where everyone thinks youre dead or create an evil clone of you or create a new car out of antimatter that would destroy your car or let wesley crusher drive
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Jan 13, 2012 10:17
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JustFrakkingDoIt posted:no, a ghost mind-raped her in to being a ghost robot for the polar ghosts until they used the bdsm ray to re-rape the federation philosophy into her betazed hotbrains... pbffff I, TOO KNOW THE TERRIBLE PAIN OF LOSS. THE HOLLOWNESS ONE FEELS WHEN ONE IS JUST GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF LIFE. LIKE A LIVING GHOST, OR A ROBOT.
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Jan 13, 2012 14:37
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the holodeck is ridiculously dangerous, slightest electrical glitch or hack and it turns into a deathtrap murder room.
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NINbuntu 64 posted:yeah man who cares about internal consistency *car horn changes functionality each time you use it* you mean my make-believe scifi space car horn or my regular one?
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theflyingexecutive posted:I, TOO KNOW THE TERRIBLE PAIN OF LOSS. THE HOLLOWNESS ONE FEELS WHEN ONE IS JUST GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF LIFE. LIKE A LIVING GHOST, OR A ROBOT.
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Heresiarch posted:I've got this paperback "making of star trek" book that was published while TOS was still on the air and it is loving fascinating, since it was before everybody started taking it so goddamn seriously. please post interesting and/or funny things from it, tia.
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the holodeck owns because its basically like a piece of 32nd century technology in that it is way, WAY more advanced than everything else they have
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its like imagine watching a show about camelot and for the most part its pretty medieval, lots of knights and sorcery and such. and then king arthur is like "morgan le fey is in the barrowlands, we must capture her!" all the knights pour out of the castle and suddenly hop into jeeps and they all peel out and take off
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Computer, make me a table *wooden dining table appears* No, make it a metal table *table changes into an alien torture table* holodeck is just a plot device room with zero rules
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I can't believe they didn't just give users some kind of handheld emergency stop button they could press when holographic moriarty tried to stab them or whatever
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law abiding rapist posted:Computer, make me a table Computer, test going warp 10 *skips part that turns you into a lizard* Man, Voyager loving sucked. Woz My Neg rear end posted:I can't believe they didn't just give users some kind of handheld emergency stop button they could press when holographic moriarty tried to stab them or whatever I'm convinced that most people had no clue how they worked. Nog seemed to be the only one who had half a clue.
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star trek is like a show where somehow we forgot all about theoretical physics and just decided to start testing everything practically. with human test subjects.
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NINbuntu 64 posted:star trek is like a show where somehow we forgot all about theoretical physics and just decided to start testing everything practically. i'm down with this, just make sure people sign a waiver
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duTrieux posted:i'm down with this, just make sure people sign a waiver Yeah, pretty sure when you join Starfleet you sign a form that just says "we ain't responsible for anything that happens to you"
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wouldnt it be great if the holodeck was alien technology and they didnt really understand it but everyone still used it to get they bone on?
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holodreck!!!
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the galaxy class ships were the first to be equipped with holodecks. they were literally an experiment. they make a big deal about this in TNG season one.
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Kirk posted:the holodeck owns because its basically like a piece of 32nd century technology in that it is way, WAY more advanced than everything else they have it's a pity the potential of the holodeck as a masturbation device was never fully explored in the serieses
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Bedshaped posted:it's a pity the potential of the holodeck as a masturbation device was never fully explored in the serieses Clearly you have never seen Star Trexxx
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Bedshaped posted:it's a pity the potential of the holodeck as a masturbation device was never fully explored in the serieses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lobo3c0NFg
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duTrieux posted:please post interesting and/or funny things from it, tia. It's in a storage unit at the moment and unfortunately I don't remember all that much. (It's this one, by the way, I had forgotten that Roddenbery helped write it.) One bit that I do remember is that many of McCoy's medical instruments were actually fancy salt shakers. Somebody bought a whole bunch of "futuristic" ones for a scene, but they realized that nobody would be able to tell that they were salt shakers, so they used them as medical props instead. I think pretty much every Trek nerd knows that one, though.
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Heresiarch posted:It's in a storage unit at the moment and unfortunately I don't remember all that much. (It's this one, by the way, I had forgotten that Roddenbery helped write it.) huh. in your professional opinion, is it worth ~$8.50 used from amazon?
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Heresiarch posted:I had forgotten that Roddenbery forced himself into getting credit for that
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why isn't every room a holodeck? no furniture to lug around, walls and ceilings where you want them and no bulky instruments or computer terminals. imagine the weight that could be saved when nothing that humans aren't interacting with at that moment could just be made by holograms or just disappear.
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axolotl farmer posted:why isn't every room a holodeck? no furniture to lug around, walls and ceilings where you want them and no bulky instruments or computer terminals. holodecks take a bunch of power and also the power is completely incompatible with the other power systems on the ship for no reason that makes sense.
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also when the power goes out (which is quite often) you wouldnt have anywhere to sit and that would suck
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duTrieux posted:huh. If you're the sort of person who prefers DVDs over streaming because you like watching making-of documentaries and listening to commentary tracks (like me), and you'd like to have some of that kind of material for TOS, then yes. It's been ~20 years since I read it, though.
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NINbuntu 64 posted:holodecks take a bunch of power and also the power is completely incompatible with the other power systems on the ship for no reason that makes sense. The ship runs on red electrons, the holodeck runs on blue electrons.
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so mold basic sit-shapes into the walls and floors. raised sections that are little more than basic cubes or rectangles if the power goes out, but are still functional. then paint the holograms over that, so some furniture or consoles are affixed and others aren't.
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sometimes i try to figure out how the holodeck handles multiple people using it while spread out over an area greater than the area of the holodeck and just give up because holodecks are dumb and holodeck episodes were dumb
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I enjoy the fact that some of the people here take the fiction semi-seirously.
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so it would take more energy to make some holograms than to accelerate all that furinture, terminals and bulkheads to warp speed? I think my spergbergers is flaring up, but that's maybe expected from discussing Star Trek on the internet.
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