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Zore posted:The joke is that he got evasion, which is a level 2 thing for Rogues and a level 11 thing for Rangers so no one ever remembers that Rangers actually get evasion. The joke seems more to be that Belkar doesn't know about anything his class does, other than two weapon fighting. Keep in mind that he can't cast spells, isn't trained in Survival, uses daggers for two weapon fighting, has presumably never used barbarian rage, and took several hundred strips to acquire an animal companion which is just a housecat.
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So does the imposter goblin have a shaved head because polymorph doesn't know what kind of hair to give a hairless creature, or do you think having hair just weirds him out, and he shaves it?
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Jan 10, 2012 16:47
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Yes! Go Redcloak, go! If a magic spell doesn't specifically say it grows hair it probably doesn't.
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Jan 10, 2012 16:51
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drat does Burlew know what he's doing with his art style. It's just a few lines and colour fills but that implosion effect conveys the idea of what's happening better than any realistic detailed drawing. Not to mention a lot of aspiring webcomic artist would probably have slapped a pinch filter on it and called it a day.
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Jan 10, 2012 16:54
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Bobulus posted:So does the imposter goblin have a shaved head because polymorph doesn't know what kind of hair to give a hairless creature, or do you think having hair just weirds him out, and he shaves it?
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Jan 10, 2012 16:55
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inthesto posted:The joke seems more to be that Belkar doesn't know about anything his class does, other than two weapon fighting. Didn't take any ranks in tracking either.
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Jan 10, 2012 16:56
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Tracking is actually a feat that allows you to use the Survival skill to track. Rangers get it for free.  Yeah, nobody ever remembers these things after you learn junk like Scrying
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My Lovely Horse posted:drat does Burlew know what he's doing with his art style. It's just a few lines and colour fills but that implosion effect conveys the idea of what's happening better than any realistic detailed drawing. Not to mention a lot of aspiring webcomic artist would probably have slapped a pinch filter on it and called it a day. Yeah, I spent some time looking at that and appreciated that it's probably exactly what a stick figure would look like imploding. I guess if you have a style you gotta go whole hog with it.
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Jan 10, 2012 17:14
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As badass as it was, I'm with whoever it was a while back wondering what the point of this part is. Given the pace of updates has been historically slow, and the resistance/elves seem to have accomplished absolutely jack poo poo.
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Jan 10, 2012 17:27
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wdarkk posted:As badass as it was, I'm with whoever it was a while back wondering what the point of this part is. Given the pace of updates has been historically slow, and the resistance/elves seem to have accomplished absolutely jack poo poo.
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Jan 10, 2012 17:37
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I think the point was to show Redcloak being a chessmaster, and to show off his new spell level. And to prove to me that even stick figures can have gruesome, cringe worthy deaths. loving Implosion, Jesus.
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wdarkk posted:As badass as it was, I'm with whoever it was a while back wondering what the point of this part is. Given the pace of updates has been historically slow, and the resistance/elves seem to have accomplished absolutely jack poo poo. He isn't worried about the pace of the updates on the site, he's worried about the pace of the book. Next book is gonna have some bonus resistance comics, watch.
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Jan 10, 2012 17:47
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The point of this scene is to show that poo poo has been progressing for this group of characters while the oots have been playing in the desert. If you can't see that you need to look up basics of screen writing/story telling.
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HKR posted:The point of this scene is to show that poo poo has been progressing for this group of characters while the oots have been playing in the desert. If you can't see that you need to look up basics of screen writing/story telling. Not really. The 'Gobbotopia' speech and surrounding comics could've happened without the Resistance and that's the real development they've had that we needed to see. Rich set up the bud guys with a very solid 'they need to search for the phylactery before they can do anything else' that explains to the reader exactly what they're up to which is satisfying right up to the point where he shows it being found.
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Yeah, this is two strips basically saying "Xykon is moving now." Two instead of one is fine, because we get Implosion art, bearded devils, demons, and betrayal.
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Jan 10, 2012 18:00
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I'm almost cheering for Redcloak over the Order anyway, he's a great character and a greater villain that is overshadowed by Xykon/Tarquin.
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I'm still not sure he'll just go ahead and tell Xykon he has the phylactery. Of course sat some point he has to go out there and finish the plan, but he was willing to use O-Chul to deceive Xykon into buying time to form Gobbtopia, he might to do something similar here. At the very least, we see (again) that Redcloak is resourceful, and a loving badass.
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The Rooster posted:I'm still not sure he'll just go ahead and tell Xykon he has the phylactery. Of course sat some point he has to go out there and finish the plan, but he was willing to use O-Chul to deceive Xykon into buying time to form Gobbtopia, he might to do something similar here. This is what I'm thinking. The only other reason I can think of for him not to have any hobgoblins in support is if he's doing the whole "Not one more life lost" thing. Except there's the poly-spy. If all Redcloak cared about was saving hobgoblin life, he could have slaughtered the rebels weeks ago when the spy first infiltrated the Resistance. That would have saved the lives of the search team and every other hobgoblin that the Resistance picked off between then and now. No, I'm pretty sure this is about making sure that Redcloak has an ace up his sleeve for when things inevitably breakdown between himself and Xykon. This way he keeps it quiet. If this wasn't about operational security, there's be no reason not to have Tsukiko and her undead along. She'd provide a lot more firepower, and he doesn't care if she dies. As Benjamin Franklin said, "Three can keep a secret if two are dead." Which doesn't bode well for the survival chances of the poly-spy, come to think of it. jng2058 fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Jan 10, 2012 |
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Wow that's grim for a stick figure comic.
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jng2058 posted:Which doesn't bode well for the survival chances of the poly-spy, come to think of it. Yeah, that's what i was thinking about this comic. Either Redcloak needs to kill this goblin, this goblin that has been excelling on a dangerous job for the good of Goblin civilization, or he needs to trust him with the most dangerous secret imaginable. So, here is a question: Does a Lich feel it when his Philacery is destroyed? In that case, Redcloack could break it, Xykon would assume it was the work of some sewer creature, and then head to the next gate without waiting for it to be found. Then Redcloack could craft a new one, inserting some sort of leverage magic into it. Wili fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jan 10, 2012 |
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Jan 10, 2012 20:40
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jng2058 posted:Which doesn't bode well for the survival chances of the poly-spy, come to think of it. The Poly spy is more than likely Jirix whom hasn't been seen in quite some time.
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jng2058 posted:Except there's the poly-spy. If all Redcloak cared about was saving hobgoblin life, he could have slaughtered the rebels weeks ago when the spy first infiltrated the Resistance. That would have saved the lives of the search team and every other hobgoblin that the Resistance picked off between then and now. Well consider that the rebels were probably ALSO searching for the phylacracy he made sure he would find out if they found it first.
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Redcloak has always had Xykon's phylactery around his neck. It doesn't do him any good - this gets addressed at the end of Start of Darkness.
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Wili posted:Yeah, that's what i was thinking about this comic. Either Redcloak needs to kill this goblin, this goblin that has been excelling on a dangerous job for the good of Goblin civilization, or he needs to trust him with the most dangerous secret imaginable. Thing is, Xykon can probably make a new phylactery on his own, or else get Tsukiko's help instead of Redcloak's to replace it if he requires some divine oomph. Just destroying Xykon's phylactery now would only delay things even more, since Xykon would probably go into seclusion for months while making a new one. On the other hand, if he keeps it intact and starts to dispel the various protections on it in his spare time, he can then be in a situation where he can kill Xykon permanently by trashing his body then breaking the phylactery. Or perhaps better yet, wait for the Order or the Linear Guild or Clan Draketooth to do the trashing, then break the phylactery himself.
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YouTuber posted:The Poly spy is more than likely Jirix whom hasn't been seen in quite some time. Jirix is the Prime Minister. We saw him last strip.
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YouTuber posted:The Poly spy is more than likely Jirix whom hasn't been seen in quite some time. Prime Minister Jirix who was last seen being made the peacetime leader of Gobboltopia? Highly unlikely.
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Why make this more complicated than it needs to be? Show Xykon that they found the phylactery before swapping it out with his identical looking back-up symbol. Leave the real deal behind in Azure City in a catapult aimed at the rift with orders to shoot it in if Redcloak sends the order or if the city is in danger of being overrun.
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Because rich has never put in small, incidental, almost meaningless things that have a larger payout at the end of a particular story arc. Nope.
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If Redcloak deceives Xykon again it would be very, very stupid of him. I know we haven't seen Xykon in a while and we all love Redcloak but if you need a reminder as to who wears the pants in that relationship just take a look at Redcloak's face. Xykon is officially in Done With Screwing Around mode.
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Any lie that Redcloak tells Xykon will still pale in comparison to his main lie, that the ritual will allow the people performing it to control the snarl.
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Nilbop posted:If Redcloak deceives Xykon again it would be very, very stupid of him. I know we haven't seen Xykon in a while and we all love Redcloak but if you need a reminder as to who wears the pants in that relationship just take a look at Redcloak's face. But that's also WHY Redcloak would consider betraying Xykon. Between the way Xykon treats goblins, the way he forces Redcloak to live one eye short, and the way he let's Tsukiko go around defiling goblin corpses all add up to the fact that Redcloak can't trust Xykon and he'd be stupid to think that the Big X will just roll over and do the Plan right the way Redcloak needs it to be done. Redcloak would be stupid NOT to try and get an edge, especially with his very god breathing down his neck. We should also recall that by having Tsukiko analyze the ritual for him, Xykon's been making his own preparations for a X vs Red battle as well...
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Nilbop posted:just take a look at Redcloak's face.
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Given that one of Rich's main themes is that Evil is not 'one big happy family', and what happened in Start of Darkness, I think it's a fair bet that Redcloak is looking for some way to get the upper hand on Xykon, and/or dispose of him... After the ritual is complete.
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New strip is up and it does imply very interesting things to come!
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Affi posted:New strip is up and it does imply very interesting things to come! Link for convenience. Pretty much what I expected. I'm just glad that Niu will be able to tell the others. Maybe? I don't know if anyone can use Sending scrolls.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Link for convenience.
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Affi posted:New strip is up and it does imply very interesting things to come! Ok, there's the resistance payoff that I was worrying about. Plot moves forward and Hinjo is still in the game. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Jan 13, 2012 |
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Wow, it's like Rich just tries to make every Paladin an awesome apology for Miko!
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Colon V posted:I doubt he'd give it to her if she couldn't. Being "the one for stealth" implies she took a couple levels in Rogue, which means Use Magic Device is a class skill. Ah. Yes, she multi-classed to rogue.
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