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huh posted:How is the production? If it has the event audio instead of a drum circle in the background it'll be all the production values I need.
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I won't get to see my wrestling coach for a few days and I wanted to ask here while it was fresh in my mind. I have decent sprawl, decent enough to get it most of the time on folks at my level anyway. What I'm failing at is to do anything from there. What can I do from a sprawl? Because I honestly just hold a head lock and lose the position.
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You can try to get the back you can try to go for a guillotine, or any sort of guillotine variation (anaconda, peruvian necktie etc.)
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TheKingslayer posted:I won't get to see my wrestling coach for a few days and I wanted to ask here while it was fresh in my mind. I have decent sprawl, decent enough to get it most of the time on folks at my level anyway. What I'm failing at is to do anything from there. What can I do from a sprawl? Because I honestly just hold a head lock and lose the position. Seatbelt to back control. Get a tight over-under grip and clear the arm on the side you're going to pass to, and when you're there, this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_rQ0kuir6E I also recommend the martial arts thread in A/T for technique questions, since there's a lot of jits and judo dudes there who don't post in this thread.
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TheKingslayer posted:I won't get to see my wrestling coach for a few days and I wanted to ask here while it was fresh in my mind. I have decent sprawl, decent enough to get it most of the time on folks at my level anyway. What I'm failing at is to do anything from there. What can I do from a sprawl? Because I honestly just hold a head lock and lose the position. Secret move.
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Well if I knew that, it wouldn't be a secret.
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TheKingslayer posted:Well if I knew that, it wouldn't be a secret.
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Jan 8, 2012 22:56
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Marcelo did that on Ben Askren when they were rolling if I recall correctly. It owned.
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 I will destroy them all now.
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From a sprawl you can leapfrog right into it. Even if you don't get the submission you've basically sunset flipped a dude. Oh yeah it's pretty much a neck crank so don't do it if those aren't allowed. You can modify it with a gi for non-crank chokes. The secret Ezekiel choke rules.
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I like the "half secret move to crucifix" from sprawl when I'm not going "arm-in guillotine to back"
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When did Saku release the secret move video? Was it a pre-fight promo or something?
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Julio Cesar Fatass posted:When did Saku release the secret move video? Was it a pre-fight promo or something? It's part of a humorous instructional video he put out in Japan a long time ago. A bunch of it is on youtube and I have the full one lying around somewhere. It has some real tips (in Japanese) but it's presented in a tongue-in-cheek Sakuraba way.
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I pulled off the sakuraba secret move on a guy on monday. It was hilarious and mean.
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I pulled off the Secret Move last night. My coach saw me do it and asked me not to anymore, oh well 
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TheKingslayer posted:I pulled off the Secret Move last night. My coach saw me do it and asked me not to anymore, oh well Haters gonna hate. Your coach might have asked you not to do it because of the neck crank finish, though. A lot of grappling places wisely avoid neck/spine-related submissions.
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Jan 12, 2012 18:56
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Also, if you're a whitebelt, youtube-jitsu is really frowned upon, even if the move is legitimate.
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He wants me to stick to things I learned there. Which I totally understand.
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That I don't understand. I realize that doing a neck/spine/leg lock you saw on youtube once is very dangerous, but if you are only allowed to do things you learned there you're limiting yourself.
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henkman posted:That I don't understand. I realize that doing a neck/spine/leg lock you saw on youtube once is very dangerous, but if you are only allowed to do things you learned there you're limiting yourself. If he's a six month white belt, even up into blue he doesn't necessarily have the experience to tell good from bad, and there's plenty of bad to be found out on the web.
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henkman posted:That I don't understand. I realize that doing a neck/spine/leg lock you saw on youtube once is very dangerous, but if you are only allowed to do things you learned there you're limiting yourself. If he's a six month white belt, even up into blue he doesn't necessarily have the experience to tell good from bad, and there's plenty of bad to be found out on the web.
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I've been choked so hard from youtub-itsu that I sometimes see double on the internet.
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It was meant in the context he doesn't want me to focus on anything but fundamentals yet. I'm only two months in. total scrub. But I plan to take a crack at NAGA next month.
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See that's what I get for getting fancy and using my phone, not focusing on fundamental PC posting.
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Ok, that's different then.
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Xguard86 posted:If he's a six month white belt, even up into blue he doesn't necessarily have the experience to tell good from bad, and there's plenty of bad to be found out on the web. I agree you should stick to fundamentals but I've always thought that for the last 5 minutes of rolling you should go hog wild with stuff you've been thinking of and seen. Hell it's how I learned to pull of a triangle from top of side control. I saw Marcelo do it on a video and wanted to try it, my coach corrected what I was doing wrong when he saw me trying it and I've used it ever since. Nothing wrong with trying new poo poo as long as it's safe imo.
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I started off my jujitsu career with Eddie Bravo's Jiu-jitsu unleashed (the stunted predecessor to mastering the rubber guard), which probably wasn't the best book to devote yourself to three months into training- but the stuff it introduced me to definitely helped me in the long run, and I wouldn't trade that influence for just instruction in the basics. As a beginnner you should totally be focusing on the fundamentals, because those are what you'll build your entire game around, but like Blindsite says, going hog wild one in a while is probably good for you as well, so long as you're not going hog wild with flying neckcranks and reverse levitating triangles or whatever. Bohemian Nights fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jan 13, 2012 |
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Did my first kimura-attempt-into-sweep the other night. drat but Our Gay Sport is so much fun. It looks like my gym also has a no-gi sport sambo class that runs a couple times a week. That sounds weird enough to be really interesting.
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Even Eddie's goofy poo poo is okay. He's a legit bb with high level competitive experience. It's more a problem when someone gets on YouTube and starts practicing some random blue belt's dumb rear end secret move.
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Xguard86 posted:It's more a problem when someone gets on YouTube and starts practicing some random blue belt's dumb rear end secret move. Speaking of, I am a dumb rear end blue belt in every way but the literal one, and I've considered making some youtube instructional videos, because instructing is pretty fun and doing some video production again would probably be cool as well- But I've gathered there's a little bit of hostility to nobodies making instructional videos here. Is the idea maximum hitler from the start, or does the problem lie with unqualified people teaching complicated (or SECRET!!)techniques wrong or in a dangerous manner? I imagine I'd be sticking to basics, anyway. The videos would mostly be for people at my club, since I'll be responsible for a lot of the grappling instruction that'll be going down in the near future- also, it'd be in Norwegian, so I'm not interested in, nor would I be competing with a hundred other jits youtubers-- afaik, there aren't any Norwegian grappling technique videos, anyway.
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Xguard86 posted:Even Eddie's goofy poo poo is okay. He's a legit bb with high level competitive experience.
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Xguard86 posted:Even Eddie's goofy poo poo is okay. He's a legit bb with high level competitive experience. I watched ask of Eddie's rubber guard stuff and the half guard sweeps have actually been really useful in rolling. I'm not perfect at it, but it surprises people.
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TheKingslayer posted:I watched ask of Eddie's rubber guard stuff and the half guard sweeps have actually been really useful in rolling. I'm not perfect at it, but it surprises people. The most universally useful move I've gotten out of 10th planet is the lockdown. If you're up against someone who hasn't seen it before, it's just one of those positions that can stump people completely. I was surprised to find myself showing the move to several people who'd never seen it before at the MG academy when I first started training there. Maybe it just isn't super common in BJJ, but it's one of the first half guard positions my TJJ club shows new members. Hell, it's the first (and only) move I've ever pulled on a brown belt that didn't result in me immediatedly getting mauled. If you get good at the whip-up from the lockdown, you can easily make the half guard a very offensive position in terms of sweeps. Edit: For maximum hilarity, you can actually submit folks with the lockdown alone if they haven't experienced it before/have terrible flexibility. Bohemian Nights fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jan 13, 2012 |
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The lockdown/whip-up thing from bottom half-guard helped me a lot when I first started from getting out from under half-guard pressure.
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I can pretty much ID any who had read 10th Planet stuff by whether they look confused when the lock down happens. Though it was terrifying the first time someone blasted right through it. Then I found out he was the local 10th Planet hotbox leader.
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Lockdowns make me nervous ever since someone showed me that counter where you stand up and then sit back down again and can basically make the guy's knee explode like a party favour if you're in a bad mood.  e: this one basically: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2eaaTmLq00
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colonel_korn posted:Lockdowns make me nervous ever since someone showed me that counter where you stand up and then sit back down again and can basically make the guy's knee explode like a party favour if you're in a bad mood. I've seen passes like that before, but it seems to me that if you do the lockdown properly and extend your legs (and especially if you're working to break down his posture) he shouldn't be able to jump up like that in the first place. Although, I could be very, very wrong! E; Here's Eddie Bravo himself showing a lockdown pass!; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y0ZlWBVSU8&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLF8DB8AD672E03927 I don't do exactly what he does in that pass, but I do the bit where he grabs around both legs, and I've had a lot of success passing people's lockdown with that- but then, I've probably never met anyone (including myself) that's very good at the lockdown. Bohemian Nights fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Jan 13, 2012 |
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why do 10th planet dudes wear gi pants
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Bohemian Nights posted:Speaking of, I am a dumb rear end blue belt in every way but the literal one, and I've considered making some youtube instructional videos, because instructing is pretty fun and doing some video production again would probably be cool as well- do whatever you want. It's the viewers job to pick what to watch If there's nothing in Norwegian anyway, a basics video, even from a blue belt, is probably more a benefit than detriment.
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The lockdown can be a useful tool but focusing on it too much at lower levels can hurt your game, because it retards your ability to get up on your side which is where the vast majority of your offense is going to come from in half guard. The pass Bravo shows is a pretty standard half guard pass; Vitor Ribeiro uses it a lot. You're getting your arms low enough down his thighs that when you lock your hands and bear down with your weight through your shoulder it pins his knees together, and when you sprawl back it breaks the half-guard.
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