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bobkatt013 posted:Ravens is a rip off of Come out and play I thought it was Come as you are?
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It's actually "Come as As You Are", which is actually ludicrously fitting given the flock. Jericho had an "Even Flow" rip off and that's the extent of my Jimmy Hart rip off WCW knowledge. Jimmy Hart is a master of copying just enough to not get sued. WWE seems to mostly be original - only Jimmy Hart version I think they had Johnston do is Tommy Dreamer, who had a really close knock off of "Man in a Box". It has value, it ties a wrestler to a popular song and people hear it, it keeps wrestling in their heads.
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Jan 17, 2012 03:11
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Wheresmy5bucks posted:It's actually "Come as As You Are", which is actually ludicrously fitting given the flock. Jericho had an "Even Flow" rip off and that's the extent of my Jimmy Hart rip off WCW knowledge. Austin and D-X's themes come from Johnston admitting he was re-working a Rage Against the Machine song. I remember him and Austin mentioning that Austin wanted something that sounded like "Bombtrack" for his theme.
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Jan 17, 2012 03:15
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Lone Rogue posted:I thought it was Come as you are? Ah I thought that was just a rip off of his ECW theme.
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Jan 17, 2012 03:18
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The idea of Steve Austin listening to Rage Against the Machine is so 
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Wheresmy5bucks posted:It's actually "Come as As You Are", which is actually ludicrously fitting given the flock. Jericho had an "Even Flow" rip off and that's the extent of my Jimmy Hart rip off WCW knowledge. If we want to get REALLY nerdy about it, Raven's theme is a blend of "Come As You Are" and Lynyrd Skynyrd's "That Smell," which I think is where the solos come from. In any case, it fit Raven perfectly and Hart's WWF stuff wasn't boring and interchangeable like all Johnston's post-Attitude themes have been.
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Jan 17, 2012 03:46
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I personally liked Raven's TNA version of Come as You Are more than the WCW one. Well, I thought it fit his character better. That is about all the nice things I can say for TNA themes though. I remember being assaulted by the Beautiful People's "theme" so often during one episode of Impact that my ears wanted to bleed.
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Jan 17, 2012 03:49
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Wheresmy5bucks posted:It's actually "Come as As You Are", which is actually ludicrously fitting given the flock. Jericho had an "Even Flow" rip off and that's the extent of my Jimmy Hart rip off WCW knowledge. The FBI/Nunzio's theme was a pretty obvious ripoff of No Sleep Till Brooklyn. And I know there are instances of the same basic song being re-used/redone for other wrestlers (like Sid Justice/Crush).
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Jan 17, 2012 04:15
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Suben posted:The FBI/Nunzio's theme was a pretty obvious ripoff of No Sleep Till Brooklyn. And I know there are instances of the same basic song being re-used/redone for other wrestlers (like Sid Justice/Crush). WWE is notorious for re-using themes. Hell, they are doing it right now with Funkasaurus! The best would be Patriot/Angle and the toot horn for Tugboat/Steve Regal/U.N.I.O.N.
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Jan 17, 2012 04:56
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someone needs to bring back a real man
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Lone Rogue posted:WWE is notorious for re-using themes. Hell, they are doing it right now with Funkasaurus! The best would be Patriot/Angle and the toot horn for Tugboat/Steve Regal/U.N.I.O.N. Oh I know about re-using themes. I meant more re-using them with small changes or something. Like making JHVs of their own themes... although the Sid/Crush one is the only one that really jumps out at me right now.
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Jan 17, 2012 05:22
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Wheresmy5bucks posted:It's actually "Come as As You Are", which is actually ludicrously fitting given the flock. Jericho had an "Even Flow" rip off and that's the extent of my Jimmy Hart rip off WCW knowledge. Well, there's DDPs 'Teen Spirit' rip off theme, too.
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Jan 17, 2012 05:54
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A ton of the music ripoff songs you're talking about we're made by Jimmy Hart but came from the Turner library.
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Jan 17, 2012 08:54
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This is the best WCW ripoff theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzfszKuO6vA Another good one used by Hak, which made sense for him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcImqe7apBU What didn't make sense was that it was originally used by Mongo. Also Jimmy Hart wrote a number of the best WWF themes of the 80s and 90s, so he's not just a ripoff artist. Nut Bunnies fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Jan 17, 2012 |
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Jan 17, 2012 09:08
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bobkatt013 posted:someone needs to bring back a real man This never stops being great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioc5xBQPWvk
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Jan 17, 2012 14:06
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Bocc Kob posted:The idea of Steve Austin listening to Rage Against the Machine is so Little Miss RKO posted:I dream of one day debuting as a crazy cat lady in the WWE. My name will be Kitty, and I'll carry a different cat with me every show. Complete with a different story of how I acquired said cat 10 minutes ago. You know it would happen! Edit: Watching the Nitro for this week, Bret Clark doesn't look quite right. This is post the Goldburg match with that fateful kick. What's the story behind Hart still being on television, when did they realise it was the end of his career? Also, speaking of rip off themes. I think the WCW horsemen theme reminds me of something but I can't put my finger on what, the first three of four bars specifically. It's a loving sweet guitar tone too. Sue Denim fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Jan 17, 2012 |
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Jan 17, 2012 18:39
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I thought Austin's theme was Razor Ramon's theme reworked.
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Jan 17, 2012 20:17
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BillyMays posted:I thought Austin's theme was Razor Ramon's theme reworked. It is. Foley's Car Crash intro is a re-work of Razor's intro.
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Jan 17, 2012 20:19
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Which are both born from the Terminator 2 theme.
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Jan 17, 2012 20:32
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I always thought Goldberg's theme was very Terminator music-y.
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Jan 17, 2012 21:26
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Sue Denim posted:
I LIVE for bad puns. It's one of the reasons I love wrestling.
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Jan 17, 2012 23:17
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Little Miss RKO posted:I LIVE for bad puns. It's one of the reasons I love wrestling. Here is some puns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxiAe3ULuxI
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Wojtek posted:I always thought Goldberg's theme was very Terminator music-y. It's from the Iron Eagle franchise.
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Jan 18, 2012 00:44
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Austin's music is a hard version of Razor's, and Razor's is a knock off of "Those Shoes" by The Eagles. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57-bBwiIsWU
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Jan 18, 2012 03:52
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Q_res posted:Well, there's DDPs 'Teen Spirit' rip off theme, too. Yeah but when it plays on the radio or in a bar you can throw out a "SELF HIGH-FIVE!" and maybe one of your friends will laugh. Mine do.
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Jan 18, 2012 18:08
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The guitar work in Foley's theme also sounds a LOT like the Pixies "Dig For Fire".
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Jan 18, 2012 18:15
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I was amused that the WWF Superstar Line promo in 1996 used Lex Luger's WCW theme. They changed it in 1997, but it really makes me wonder why each company didn't abuse the ability to steal each others theme music that they licensed from a music house. Of course I am just assuming they didn't do a buyout on that stuff because I'd hear it tons of other places. And speaking of theme music, while watching all these old WCW Nitros, very weird seeing wrestlers come out to Goldberg's theme, or one off jobbers use future themes that would be pretty recognizable with established stars later.
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Jan 18, 2012 20:36
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I know much of this thread is dedicated to the bad things WCW did. Hell, I just got done recounting/requesting one of the more hilarious random moments I could remember. But they also did some great stuff, and not just necessarily with the awesome undercard matches of the late 90s. Basically, I have three words for you. Average carpentry skills. e: looking at the related videos sums up WCW pretty well. First, there's one that says "Curt Hennig joins The Four Horsemen, 8/25/97" and a few spots down, another video titled "Curt Hennig joins the nWo, 9/14/97" Not to mention how they hyped up a big surprise/mystery for like two months prior to the 6/30/97 Nitro, which was Hennig debuting -- and doing absolutely nothing of note. I seriously think he came out during a brawl and stood at ringside, noncommittal. nasboat fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Jan 19, 2012 |
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Jan 19, 2012 05:44
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Watching the last Nitro made me remember why I liked Double J so much as a kid, although I'm not quite sure what exactly it is that makes me enjoy him so much more than everyone else seems to or what I'm seeing that others don't. I hope we get to watch Souled out on PSP, this is from memory from over a decade ago at a much younger age but from what I remember it was actually a good PPV, it's another one of those WCW PPV's where 'card subject to change' applies heavily. Can someone tell me how and why it took so long for Hart to stop wrestling after the concussion? When/how did they realise it wasn't minor? It seems it took a long time for this conclusion to be reached.
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Jan 19, 2012 12:56
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The 1997 Souled Out, the actual nWo PPV, was horrible IMO. There is no redeeming quality of it at all. The only match that ended cleanly was the ladder match between Syxx and Eddie, and even the Steiners winning the tag titles was reversed the next night.
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Jan 19, 2012 15:11
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Astro7x posted:The 1997 Souled Out, the actual nWo PPV, was horrible IMO. There is no redeeming quality of it at all. The only match that ended cleanly was the ladder match between Syxx and Eddie, and even the Steiners winning the tag titles was reversed the next night. Wasn't the ladder match at least really good, while pretty much the rest of the show was total poo poo as far as wrestling goes?
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Jan 19, 2012 15:24
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Wasn't the ladder match at least really good, while pretty much the rest of the show was total poo poo as far as wrestling goes? Scotty Riggs proved to me he wasn't a bad wrestler and might have had a career for himself if he either cut his hair or embraced a pirate gimmick to more than just an eyepatch (he seriously had pirate hair).
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Jan 19, 2012 15:29
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Sue Denim posted:Watching the last Nitro made me remember why I liked Double J so much as a kid, although I'm not quite sure what exactly it is that makes me enjoy him so much more than everyone else seems to or what I'm seeing that others don't. He would have been fine if he had not been shoved down our throats too fast. He needed a few years to cultivate more intense fan reactions before main eventing. The Jeff Jarrett MMA enthusiast and world's greatest dad we've been getting for the last few years feels a lot more natural than the Chosen One.
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Jan 19, 2012 15:56
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This is really all you need from Souled Out: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x369mp_eddie-guerrero-vs-syxx-souled-out-1_sport
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Jan 19, 2012 18:27
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Wasn't the ladder match at least really good, while pretty much the rest of the show was total poo poo as far as wrestling goes? The ladder match was pretty good for its time, but by todays standards it was pretty tame. It didn't even make the most sense storyline wise at the time. Why would the nWo agree to a ladder match on a PPV where they can't use their bias ref to prevent Eddie from retaining?
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Jan 19, 2012 20:10
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MrBling posted:This is really all you need from Souled Out: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x369mp_eddie-guerrero-vs-syxx-souled-out-1_sport Sorry but I think you made a typo and meant to post this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuCSGVUAyOY&list=ULfuCSGVUAyOY&feature=player_detailpage#t=637s
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Sue Denim posted:This is post the Goldburg match with that fateful kick. What's the story behind Hart still being on television, when did they realise it was the end of his career? His brains were too scrambled for him to realize that he needed to see a doctor, and nobody in charge of anything at WCW could recognize his symptoms so he went on being involved in things and taking bumps which exacerbated his condition. He eventually did see a doctor, who told him that he was done wrestling.
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Jan 20, 2012 01:27
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Oatgan posted:Sorry but I think you made a typo and meant to post this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuCSGVUAyOY&list=ULfuCSGVUAyOY&feature=player_detailpage#t=637s Speaking of Souled Out, are we going to watch the Souled Out from 2000?
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Jan 20, 2012 01:32
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Speaking of Souled Out, are we going to watch the Souled Out from 2000? I hope not. It has one of the stupidest moments in WCW history, Dean Malenko v Kidman first person touches the floor.
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bobkatt013 posted:I hope not. It has one of the stupidest moments in WCW history, Dean Malenko v Kidman first person touches the floor. You mean IN A DUNGEON MATCH.
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