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New screenshots of Persona 4 The Golden Includes ski trip, new persona, costumes, and the 3G function.
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Jan 11, 2012 18:15
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So I finally went and got myself copies of DDS1&2 and so far I'm really enjoying it. There are a couple of things I'm a little confused about though, even though overall most of the game comes naturally to me due to its similarities to Nocturne. Firstly, how are you expected to complete Field Hunts? I've only encountered one in Manipura and when I get to confront the Ara Mitama team they just run away after a single turn, even if I pelt them with Bufu spells. In that same vein, Omoikane seem impossible to beat--even if they don't get Debilitate off right away all attacks only do 1 damage (including crits) which leads to them fleeing in short order. Also, I remember reading in the "things to know before playing" thread that there are a couple characters you aren't really supposed to use or something? Anyone know what that's about? I don't want to build a strong team only to get screwed over later due to my character choices. That was never a problem in the Persona games and I don't really have an issue rotating characters, I just don't want to waste my time.
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Jan 11, 2012 21:06
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Pomale posted:So I finally went and got myself copies of DDS1&2 and so far I'm really enjoying it. There are a couple of things I'm a little confused about though, even though overall most of the game comes naturally to me due to its similarities to Nocturne. Firstly, how are you expected to complete Field Hunts? I've only encountered one in Manipura and when I get to confront the Ara Mitama team they just run away after a single turn, even if I pelt them with Bufu spells. In that same vein, Omoikane seem impossible to beat--even if they don't get Debilitate off right away all attacks only do 1 damage (including crits) which leads to them fleeing in short order. For mitamas you want to hit their weakness until they get scared and then consume them. Omoikane are a bit different, each of them is only weak to a certain element and they'll only die (when the turn ends) when you hit them with it. I didn't have problems with character rotation but I guess your mileage may vary, just have a team that can buff/debuff, heal and do some damage and you'll be fine. Remember that some choices you make in DDS1 will affect things in 2.
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Jan 11, 2012 21:32
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I think the Omoikane are actually only weak to guns, so you have to make some of your party revert to human form. Then you have to shoot them and hope you get lucky, basically.
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Jan 11, 2012 21:58
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Oh right, I was talking about the omoikanes in DDS2. That's how you take care of them in 1.
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Jan 11, 2012 22:05
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And as for characters you aren't supposed to use, the situation is that for reasons you won't want ruined for you, Gale and Cielo are absolutely critical to keep in your party at all times once you start DDS 2. As far as game 1 goes, you can pretty much use whoever you want though.
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Jan 11, 2012 23:39
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Policenaut posted:New screenshots of Persona 4 The Golden If Atlus wants another Persona 4 spinoff, they could always do a Persona 4 x Snowboard Kids game...
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Jan 12, 2012 00:01
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mrfreeze posted:And as for characters you aren't supposed to use, the situation is that for reasons you won't want ruined for you, Gale and Cielo are absolutely critical to keep in your party at all times once you start DDS 2. As far as game 1 goes, you can pretty much use whoever you want though.
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Jan 12, 2012 01:11
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And yet Cielo is pretty much required for the super duper ultra powerful hidden boss.
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Jan 12, 2012 01:22
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Pomale posted:Also, I remember reading in the "things to know before playing" thread that there are a couple characters you aren't really supposed to use or something? Anyone know what that's about? I don't want to build a strong team only to get screwed over later due to my character choices. That was never a problem in the Persona games and I don't really have an issue rotating characters, I just don't want to waste my time. Heat is forced to leave the party twice for plot reasons, and Argilla leaves the party with him the second time. Each of these departures only lasts for the duration of one dungeon, though. As long as you keep the other party members' skills diversified enough that you aren't completely screwed without one or both of those two, you'll be fine. Heat has high Strength and crappy Magic, and Argilla is pretty much only good for Magic, so you'll inevitably end up making him focus on Phys/Hunt skills and her on high-MP magic spells. Depending on how you allocate stats, Serph could sub in for either one of them (or both, if you feed him lots of Noises and never swap him out of the active party).
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Jan 13, 2012 07:02
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I would suggest to focus on Serph's magic, once you start hitting the high level spells and their respective boost spells, its downright gamebreaking.
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Jan 13, 2012 18:09
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What the gently caress is with this mission in Overclocked, I'm supposed to stop these SDF tamers from escaping but they're getting like 2 or 3 turns to my one, I just failed for the 2nd time despite having the last one at almost no health, this is retarded.
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Jan 17, 2012 19:32
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Alteisen posted:What the gently caress is with this mission in Overclocked, I'm supposed to stop these SDF tamers from escaping but they're getting like 2 or 3 turns to my one, I just failed for the 2nd time despite having the last one at almost no health, this is retarded. That was probably the worst mission in the entire game, however I found just stacking evil/chaos wave demons allowed me to snipe them pretty easily. Constrict could probably help too. e: Also try to build your demons around just bashing the head in of the tamer rather than focusing on the damage sponge demons they have. Ibram Gaunt fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Jan 17, 2012 |
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Jan 17, 2012 20:49
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Alright so I'm nearing the endgame in Persona 4 and I got a question. I read about how to get the "Normal Ending" but I understand that there's a secret ending as well. Can I get a little guidance on how to proceed with December to get the most out of it without spoiling too much?
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Jan 18, 2012 04:13
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Strange Matter posted:Alright so I'm nearing the endgame in Persona 4 and I got a question. I read about how to get the "Normal Ending" but I understand that there's a secret ending as well. Can I get a little guidance on how to proceed with December to get the most out of it without spoiling too much? Seek the truth, and not the easy answers.
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Jan 18, 2012 04:16
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It's impossible to save yourself into a situation in which you are no longer able to get the best ending, so don't stress too much about preparation.
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Jan 18, 2012 04:21
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Strange Matter posted:Alright so I'm nearing the endgame in Persona 4 and I got a question. I read about how to get the "Normal Ending" but I understand that there's a secret ending as well. Can I get a little guidance on how to proceed with December to get the most out of it without spoiling too much? If you're set up to get the Normal ending, you don't have to worry about the Best ending until the last day of the game (after you beat the final dungeon). Not related to the ending, but you want to make sure you beat the final dungeon on or before December 22, or else you'll miss the Christmas Eve event.
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Jan 18, 2012 04:30
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RedBoot posted:If Atlus wants another Persona 4 spinoff, they could always do a Persona 4 x Snowboard Kids game... I would play the poo poo out of this.  ...As long as it's based on the two N64 games and not the DS one, anyway.
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Jan 18, 2012 04:32
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I've just started up Digital Devil Saga and after reading the OP I'm still kind of confused as to which stats to grab and which mantra to unlock. I'm at the point where you pick your first mantra. The OP says to get one that is weak to your element, so does that mean I should unlock the fire mantra for Serph and the Ice one for Heat and in doing so lose all my first mantra's skills? As for the stats, I've been keeping them quite balanced after reading a few faqs but just wanted to double check with you goons that I should instead be focusing on a specific stat.
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Jan 18, 2012 05:34
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Cardboard Fox posted:I've just started up Digital Devil Saga and after reading the OP I'm still kind of confused as to which stats to grab and which mantra to unlock. I'm at the point where you pick your first mantra. The OP says to get one that is weak to your element, so does that mean I should unlock the fire mantra for Serph and the Ice one for Heat and in doing so lose all my first mantra's skills? I would honestly suggest you go full on magic for Serph, your other guys are specialized to fill a specialist role if you needed(heat is phys for example).
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Jan 18, 2012 05:41
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Strange Matter posted:Alright so I'm nearing the endgame in Persona 4 and I got a question. I read about how to get the "Normal Ending" but I understand that there's a secret ending as well. Can I get a little guidance on how to proceed with December to get the most out of it without spoiling too much?
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Jan 18, 2012 05:51
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Or you could just skip the secret ending as it is dumb jrpg garbage polluting a fine anime scooby doo mystery. Honestly you could just stop playing at finding out the who the murderer is, as the game goes rapidly downhill in quality from there.
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Jan 18, 2012 06:36
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Cardboard Fox posted:I've just started up Digital Devil Saga and after reading the OP I'm still kind of confused as to which stats to grab and which mantra to unlock. I'm at the point where you pick your first mantra. The OP says to get one that is weak to your element, so does that mean I should unlock the fire mantra for Serph and the Ice one for Heat and in doing so lose all my first mantra's skills? You don't lose skills when you switch mantras. Equipping a new mantra at the Karma Terminal just means that you're learning the new skills that are in that mantra; once you get enough Atma Points to master your current mantra, you always have the skills that you learned from that mantra. You only have a few skill slots to actually equip the skills you've learned, though the number of skills available will go up a couple times as you gain levels.
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Jan 18, 2012 06:43
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Authorman posted:Or you could just skip the secret ending as it is dumb jrpg garbage polluting a fine anime scooby doo mystery. Honestly you could just stop playing at finding out the who the murderer is, as the game goes rapidly downhill in quality from there. I disagree. If you had no problem with the rest of the game, then the true ending has nothing to offer that would make you cringe? If anything, I found the endplot to be pretty reminiscent of the P2 duology, with the idea of a game to determine mankind's fate.
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Jan 18, 2012 11:23
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Authorman posted:Or you could just skip the secret ending as it is dumb jrpg garbage polluting a fine anime scooby doo mystery. Honestly you could just stop playing at finding out the who the murderer is, as the game goes rapidly downhill in quality from there. I guess you could do that if you like plot holes and ignoring the main theme of the game.
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Jan 18, 2012 11:40
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Alteisen posted:I would honestly suggest you go full on magic for Serph, your other guys are specialized to fill a specialist role if you needed(heat is phys for example). Really? Just put all points into Magic alone or grab some Vitality for a little defense? gtrmp posted:You don't lose skills when you switch mantras. Equipping a new mantra at the Karma Terminal just means that you're learning the new skills that are in that mantra; once you get enough Atma Points to master your current mantra, you always have the skills that you learned from that mantra. You only have a few skill slots to actually equip the skills you've learned, though the number of skills available will go up a couple times as you gain levels. Oh, that's a relief then. I'm the most paranoid when playing SMT games because I just know I'm going to forget something, or fuse the wrong thing, or not have the right debuff for the next fight, and then it just starts snowballing on me till I'm on the last boss getting truck hosed. It's going to be Persona 4 all over again, I just know it.
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Jan 18, 2012 15:42
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Rinkles posted:Canada's VideoGamesPlus just put an interesting product page up. http://www.videogamesplus.ca/product_info.php?products_id=19759&osCsid=b80870d011574054414eabc0004a3adf
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Jan 18, 2012 17:04
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Gyoru posted:Canada's VideoGamesPlus just put an interesting product page up.  Still have a ton of mileage to get out of my PSP at this rate.
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Jan 18, 2012 17:07
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Haha punished by stretching the tease as long as they did. Pretty cool, always interesting to check out Japanese properties that had little western presence. And it's $30.
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Jan 18, 2012 17:10
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EBGames has it up as well so that's 2 retailers so far. http://bit.ly/zrLGyy July 24th 2012 edit: 
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Jan 18, 2012 17:20
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quote:Really? Just put all points into Magic alone or grab some Vitality for a little defense? Little bit of both. I usually went all magic, next level 2 magic one vit, or swap it around, 2 vit 1 magic, stuff like that, but I usually just focused on those 2 stats and just blazed through the whole game pretty easily.
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Jan 18, 2012 17:39
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Hopefully now this means Atlus USA can start trolling us about Persona 4 The Golden and The Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena.Gyoru posted:EBGames Oh man, late July? I'm dyin' over here Atlus! Dyin'!
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Jan 18, 2012 18:52
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Gyoru posted:It's good to know they still have a sense of humor. e: Here's the full reveal (no imgur today, hmm)  Says the game is unvoiced outside of animated cutscenes. Pity. Rinkles fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Jan 18, 2012 |
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Jan 18, 2012 18:56
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So I'm about to play Nocturne for the first time (not Maniax version). Any tips or warnings you guys can give me before I through myself into the world of Demi-Fiend?
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Jan 18, 2012 19:52
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Dogbutt posted:So I'm about to play Nocturne for the first time (not Maniax version). Any tips or warnings you guys can give me before I through myself into the world of Demi-Fiend? Focus a little bit on MA at first, its very useful near the beginning then go full bore into ST much later in the game. And never EVER erase the focus skill once you learn it.
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Jan 18, 2012 19:58
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There's going to be a digital release for this right? I mean I'd consider it to be fairly obvious but with it coming out in a Post-PSP world in July but drat after Grand Knights History being "TBA" with it I'm curious.Rinkles posted:Says the game is unvoiced outside of animated cutscenes. Pity. Eh, give that "undub" crowd a few months and they'll probably hack the VA in themselves.
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Jan 18, 2012 19:58
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Policenaut posted:There's going to be a digital release for this right? I mean I'd consider it to be fairly obvious but with it coming out in a Post-PSP world in July but drat after Grand Knights History being "TBA" with it I'm curious. Nich said this on Neogaf: NichM posted:Very probably. I can't think of a PSP game we've published that wasn't also released on PSN. So it's almost guaranteed it will.
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Jan 18, 2012 20:16
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WrightOfWay posted:I guess you could do that if you like plot holes and ignoring the main theme of the game. Um the main theme of the game is looking cool in shades and bear puns and there is zero plot holes as far as that is concerned. The other thing you're talking about hamfisted mythology/previous persona plot retread corner can get dropped like a bad penny. Better some magic and mystery left over than stupid nonsense. Iceclaw posted:I disagree. If you had no problem with the rest of the game, then the true ending has nothing to offer that would make you cringe? Then this is where we disagree then because saving the world against the capricious whims of gods through believing in the heart of the
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Jan 18, 2012 22:01
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You do realize Persona 4 is a shin megami tensei game, right? EDIT: Okay yeah the series just might not be for you if you hate mythology in your video games. Because. That's what the entire series is. Mythology. That's kinda what it does. Endorph fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Jan 18, 2012 |
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Endorph posted:You do realize Perosna 4 is a shin megami tensei game, right? This is what I was also thinking the whole time while reading this discussion.
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