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LooseChanj posted:I don't see much in the way of book discussion, Just Sayin' SammyWhereAreYou posted:I'm just asking a question because I've never understood this - why does it matter? Can we have a serious answer to this please? It might not be "serious literally discussion" but it's all centered around the author and his works. Tangents never get out of hand- and the tangents are book-related. Why can't people who enjoy this series congregate in a forum called the Book Barn and complain about the author?
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There are two major schools of thought here: that the 'dead things' are either aquatic Others or just creatures that have died and the sailors' imaginations have gotten the best of them under the onslaught. I side with the latter opinion personally, as there is no previous textual evidence that Others are capable of an aquatic existence. Martin is not that sloppy in his plotting. Though there is a curious third stance: that Ramsay is the letter writer.
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Maytag posted:Can we have a serious answer to this please? It might not be "serious literally discussion" but it's all centered around the author and his works. Tangents never get out of hand- and the tangents are book-related. Maybe LooseChanj is GRRM.
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bigmcgaffney posted:There are two major schools of thought here: that the 'dead things' are either aquatic Others or just creatures that have died and the sailors' imaginations have gotten the best of them under the onslaught. I side with the latter opinion personally, as there is no previous textual evidence that Others are capable of an aquatic existence. Martin is not that sloppy in his plotting. They could be wights walking across the bottom of the bay.
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Ambiguatron posted:They could be wights walking across the bottom of the bay. At that point do they not become tautologically aquatic Others?
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bigmcgaffney posted:At that point do they not become tautologically aquatic Others? Below the surface, they perform aquatic ballets with one-eyed
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Ambiguatron posted:They could be wights walking across the bottom of the bay. With apologies to Otis Redding I'm just walkin' cross the muck of the bay, Watchin' the crows run away. Dolorous Edd is gay, Just wastin' time. Shittin' in the morning sun, I'll be shittin when this book is done. I wish Daario was nailin' my slit, Because my dragons ain't worth a poo poo. Now we're missin' a couple of Freys. But I baked a lamprey pie today. There's a fat man, who types away, Wastin' your time. But now he's sittin' there, watchin' the game, And his publisher got no one to blame. He's so corpulent he'll soon be lame, No book next time.
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You know, I hope HBO manages to get Daniel Dae Kim onto the show, just so he can brokenly stammer "UDDERS" on a beach somewhere. And the black smoke will turn out to be Bran the Builder all along.
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Jan 20, 2012 02:44
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Joramun posted:Merothers, if you will. Dear God, what have I done?
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I thought it was established that the others bring their own cold? I can't wait for whatever dany's worm baby got buried gets froze and rises and leads the others and mounts the world anyway
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Jan 20, 2012 03:07
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basx posted:With apologies to Otis Redding I tried singing this but I have to re-order your verses to make it happen and that's too much work.
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my cat is norris posted:I tried singing this but I have to re-order your verses to make it happen and that's too much work. Sing for us Norris, sing!
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Under the sea others turn into you. I know, I know, oh, oh, oh...
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IRQ posted:Sing for us Norris, sing! Are you going to suck my voice into a magical seashell if I do?  Which character in the books is most like the Disney version of Ariel (The Little Mermaid). Can't be Dany because Ariel doesn't like mustaches.
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Sansa obviously. Naive, spoiled, and deeply in *luuuurve* with someone who barely knows she exists.
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my cat is norris posted:Are you going to suck my voice into a magical seashell if I do? It is Theon. Obvious sea connection, also he spends his childhood dreaming of escaping to an unrealistic future, then he tries to make it happen on his own and trusts the wrong person and fucks it all up, only to end up trapped inside the twisted world of the person he trusted, who coincidentally ended up with what Theon wanted all along. Ursula is basically into G-rated torture porn anyway. Sansa could be compared to any hapless Disney princess because that is basically what she is, but doesn't have enough initiative to be Ariel.
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Sophia posted:It is Theon. Obvious sea connection, also he spends his childhood dreaming of escaping to an unrealistic future, then he tries to make it happen on his own and trusts the wrong person and fucks it all up, only to end up trapped inside the twisted world of the person he trusted, who coincidentally ended up with what Theon wanted all along. Ursula is basically into G-rated torture porn anyway. Also, like Ariel, ambiguous downstairs situation.
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Martin Van Buren posted:ambiguous downstairs situation  Thank you.
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Martin Van Buren posted:Also, like Ariel, ambiguous downstairs situation. Theon now has a cloaca.
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IRQ posted:Theon now has a turncloaca. fixed for you
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Sophia posted:It is Theon. Obvious sea connection, also he spends his childhood dreaming of escaping to an unrealistic future, then he tries to make it happen on his own and trusts the wrong person and fucks it all up, only to end up trapped inside the twisted world of the person he trusted, who coincidentally ended up with what Theon wanted all along.
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Ambiguatron posted:People are assuming Jon will be good when he's resurrected. Jon being good would be too easy. Jon will be the evil ice antichrist, explicitly because Melisandre should have been protecting him but is too loving stupid to use her own powers. Definitely going to ice box the poo poo out of those people who stabbed him.
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Winds of Winter leak: Stoneheart gives up her flame of life to Grey Robb. Hell yeah.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Winds of Winter leak: Stoneheart gives up her flame of life to Grey Robb. Hell yeah. Source?
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The Dead Sea Scrolls.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Winds of Winter leak: Stoneheart gives up her flame of life to Grey Robb. Hell yeah.  "Can't let you do that, Stark Fox."
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Jan 21, 2012 21:30
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Man, Grey Robb is gonna save hundreds of golden dragons on sigils.
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Did he switch to Geico?Joramun posted:
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Winds of Winter leak: Stoneheart gives up her flame of life to Grey Robb. Hell yeah. The question is: will it be Robb's body with grey wind's head or grey wind's body with Robb's head? Like which would have a better claim? I guess Wolfhead could sire an heir so that's a plus for him but I don't really want to think about that. not sure why i bothered spoiling all that.
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It's probably not real and why are you bothering with spoiler tags?
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You can't leak something that hasn't yet been written. You can, however, lactate pizza grease through your man-nipples.
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basx posted:You can't leak something that hasn't yet been written. This is why it's not real and I don't care.
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Martin Van Buren posted:Is this real? What the gently caress, man.
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Tangential ADwD talk. GRRM likes food. GRRM describes food a lot. Sometimes it sounds good. Inn at the Crossroads is a site where two women make his food. Sometimes it sounds good. My sister is a chef, I asked her to make sister's stew, which I thought sounded really good. It was a good meal to end a winter vacation before my spring semester. She even baked a black rye bread to use as a "trencher". Moral of the story is that my sister is better than yours.
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