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edit: It seems the already existing Book Barn thread wasn't for general Star Wars EU discussion so I'm going to move this into there and re-open it. Have fun.
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This thread gets moved around more then the stolen death star plans. Speaking of stolen death star plans. I have no idea if this was Zhans way of mocking the cliche or jumping head first into it, but in Specter of the past it turns out Han helped another group steal parts to one of the super lasers, and thats why he was so conviviality on Tatooine.
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Jan 24, 2012 22:45
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That was actually a reference to a story Zahn wrote that was in the Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina collection. It wasn't that Han had anything to do with the actual event, he just heard about it later (iirc, during the run-up to the assault on the second Death Star) and could therefore verify the identity and story of Shada Dukal.
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Jan 24, 2012 22:49
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Its been joked about a lot, but is there actual a terribly convoluted flow chart of the Death Star plans? I'm sure it would need a few alternate realities and continuities. Star Wars version of the Zelda timeline. I seem to remember capturing the shuttle used in ROTJ in a few different games for instance. Star Wars version of the Zelda timeline.
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Jan 25, 2012 01:30
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Bombadilillo posted:Its been joked about a lot, but is there actual a terribly convoluted flow chart of the Death Star plans? I'm sure it would need a few alternate realities and continuities. Star Wars version of the Zelda timeline. I seem to remember capturing the shuttle used in ROTJ in a few different games for instance. Star Wars version of the Zelda timeline. I always operated under the assumption that all the different "plans" from the Death Star throughout the continuity (Dark Forces and some PSP game both had Death Star plans) were all pieces or otherwise incomplete. Up until the Bothan's plans in New Hope, which finally gave them the complete schematic and a flaw to exploit.
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Jan 25, 2012 07:37
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The Bothans didn't have anything to do with the first Death Star, as far as I'm aware. They only found out about the second Death Star under construction over Endor.
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Jan 25, 2012 14:55
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Esroc posted:I always operated under the assumption that all the different "plans" from the Death Star throughout the continuity (Dark Forces and some PSP game both had Death Star plans) were all pieces or otherwise incomplete. Up until the Bothan's plans in New Hope, which finally gave them the complete schematic and a flaw to exploit. The Bothans were the ones who got the Death Star II plans. Or take credit for it. Its one of those things in the EU where they're all proud about it and stuff, even though it was a trap set by the Empire. Oh, and the whole 'many Bothans died to bring us this information' is dumb. The fight for them happens in the SOTE novel, and like a single squadron of Bothans is shot down. In a time of intergalactic war, that seems quite a petty thing to moan about.
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Jan 25, 2012 14:56
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Carnaticum posted:The Bothans were the ones who got the Death Star II plans. Or take credit for it. Its one of those things in the EU where they're all proud about it and stuff, even though it was a trap set by the Empire. That's an easy mistake to make, but Mon Mothma didn't actually say "Many Bothans." She was talking about her lover, Manuel Both-Hanz, the daring and resourceful intelligence agent.
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Jan 25, 2012 15:15
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Carnaticum posted:The Bothans were the ones who got the Death Star II plans. Or take credit for it. Its one of those things in the EU where they're all proud about it and stuff, even though it was a trap set by the Empire. Maybe there are just 50 Bothans alive in the galaxy. "Relatively many Bothans died to bring us this information" just doesn't sound as nice.
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Jan 25, 2012 15:33
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Pththya-lyi posted:That's an easy mistake to make, but Mon Mothma didn't actually say "Many Bothans." She was talking about her lover, Manuel Both-Hanz, the daring and resourceful intelligence agent. Good lord... This is a good explanation. Shame it is non-cannon (makes more sense than most EU explanations for things.) e: Grendels Dad posted:Maybe there are just 50 Bothans alive in the galaxy. "Relatively many Bothans died to bring us this information" just doesn't sound as nice. If there were whole races out there with such tiny populations, the size of the Clone Army suddenly makes sense... Animal Friend fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jan 25, 2012 |
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Jan 25, 2012 16:03
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There's only like 1 or 2 cities on any given planet, so ..
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Jan 25, 2012 16:19
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Anyone remember a graphic that was in memory of "Manny Bothans" who died getting the 2nd Death Star plans?
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Jan 25, 2012 16:28
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Carnaticum posted:The Bothans were the ones who got the Death Star II plans. Or take credit for it. Its one of those things in the EU where they're all proud about it and stuff, even though it was a trap set by the Empire. I think some more died on the planet (Kothlis?) when Vader & friends attacked it after Luke, but in comparison to the deaths around the galaxy during wartime, it would have hardly registered.
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Jan 25, 2012 18:35
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arioch posted:The Bothans didn't have anything to do with the first Death Star, as far as I'm aware. They only found out about the second Death Star under construction over Endor. The G level canon is that it was one human spy called Manny Boffins who died to find the plans. The EU added the alien species. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Manny_Boffins efb. to this joke.
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Jan 25, 2012 19:21
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arioch posted:The Bothans didn't have anything to do with the first Death Star, as far as I'm aware. They only found out about the second Death Star under construction over Endor. And Dash Rendar helped with stealing the plans (at least in the N64 game). AAm I the only one to remember this?
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Jan 25, 2012 19:55
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Pththya-lyi posted:That's an easy mistake to make, but Mon Mothma didn't actually say "Many Bothans." She was talking about her lover, Manuel Both-Hanz, the daring and resourceful intelligence agent. This is one of those links I go to click and just know its a fake one.....well gently caress me running.
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Jan 25, 2012 20:54
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Darth Freddy posted:This is one of those links I go to click and just know its a fake one.....well gently caress me running. My initial reaction was that he must have written the article up really quickly prior to posting but nope, years of history and revisions. Star Wars never stops giving.
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Jan 25, 2012 20:57
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Ashcans posted:My initial reaction was that he must have written the article up really quickly prior to posting but nope, years of history and revisions. Star Wars never stops giving. Do you honestly think I could come up with something that clever? If you knew me at all, you'd know I'm not nearly that funny. (You'd also know I'm a "she."  )
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Jan 25, 2012 21:40
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So, was there originally a "lorelol" explanation on why Jabba went from a fat dude to a man-slug of sorts?
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Jan 25, 2012 22:53
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Duckman2008 posted:And Dash Rendar helped with stealing the plans (at least in the N64 game). AAm I the only one to remember this? "Stole the Death Star plans" is basically a meme at this point.
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Jan 25, 2012 22:55
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Ashcans posted:My initial reaction was that he must have written the article up really quickly prior to posting but nope, years of history and revisions. Star Wars never stops giving. At least its from a comic book and not actually cannon. Still the idea of Mon Motha dating so little chubby midget dude makes me smile.
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Jan 25, 2012 22:56
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Pththya-lyi posted:Do you honestly think I could come up with something that clever? If you knew me at all, you'd know I'm not nearly that funny. (You'd also know I'm a "she." It just struck me that the Star Wars thread is a place where you won't get nerdbombed for being female. Oh how far we have come. All the pubecent nerds are probably discussing Mass Effect. Stupid series, has no official cannon. We've got like 4+ 
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Jan 25, 2012 23:11
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omg car crash posted:So, was there originally a "lorelol" explanation on why Jabba went from a fat dude to a man-slug of sorts? As I recall, The Secret History of Star wars has something on it, but don't remember what exactly. I do recall the author fully debunking Lucas' claim that Jabba was always going to be a slug-creature superimposed over the human actor.
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Jan 25, 2012 23:16
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Chairman Capone posted:As I recall, The Secret History of Star wars has something on it, but don't remember what exactly. I do recall the author fully debunking Lucas' claim that Jabba was always going to be a slug-creature superimposed over the human actor. The arguement was that the actor had a fully developed costume (browns on a brown backround) with props and stuff, also Han walks around back. Both these these made it extra difficult to CG over (impossible with tech lucas knew of at the time). Also the line "Jabba, you're a lovely human being" works as a badass moment but the Secret History argues it was supposed to be literal, weaker of the arguements from where I'm sitting. The fully developed costume is pretty telling. Edit: Also scripts may said he was a human, but I'm not sure on that.
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Jan 25, 2012 23:22
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Bombadilillo posted:It just struck me that the Star Wars thread is a place where you won't get nerdbombed for being female. Oh how far we have come. That sound you just heard was a 1000 thousand goons clicking on her profile. Honestly outside of "ironic" comments SA treats both members of sex the same. Wanna see the creepy stuff? Join a pubbie ST TOR guild. Jabba was suppose to be human. Just look at the original scene.  It wasn't until the finally script he went all slugo. From what I have read he was suppose to be originally a more furry character before that. Pretty much he got changed around a lot since the first script came out. Triple edit. I know what I am gona be next Halloween. http://old.boxwish.com/profiles/merchandise/fancy-dress/adult-jabba-the-hutt-inflatable-fancy-dress-costume 
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Jan 25, 2012 23:35
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Duckman2008 posted:And Dash Rendar helped with stealing the plans (at least in the N64 game). AAm I the only one to remember this? If I remember the novel correctly, Dash helped steal the plans, but failed to save some Bothans when a "diamond shielded missile" headed for the Bothans that Dash failed to take out (which got a smug Luke partly happy to see Dash taken down a peg for not being the hotshot he thought he was but also sad for not being able to save those bothans as well). It then turned out that Dash's shot was spot on, but nothing he had on board would stopped the missle. Dash Rendar was as good as advertised. I know it hasn't aged as well, but I want to say that I thought Luke's combat scenes using the force were very enjoyable.
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Jan 26, 2012 04:55
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It's been a while, but I just ran across something on Wookieepedia that actually made me say "oh for gently caress'S SAKE" out loud. This is canon. Is that a battle-droid face for his shoulder armor?
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Jan 26, 2012 08:23
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Powered Descent posted:It's been a while, but I just ran across something on Wookieepedia that actually made me say "oh for gently caress'S SAKE" out loud. It's just for a card game. I wouldn't put too much stake in it actually holding up as canon. The card games have often taken liberties with canon. EDIT: Besides, he looks kinda badass.
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Jan 26, 2012 08:40
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Esroc posted:It's just for a card game. I wouldn't put too much stake in it actually holding up as canon. The card games have often taken liberties with canon.
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Jan 26, 2012 10:59
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Gonna just leave this here:Mike Krahulik posted:If you want to read a really incredible story of a Jedi falling to the Dark Side check out the Legacy of the Force series. Despite Troy Denning attempting to ruin it with every word he writes, the rest of the writing team managed to make a great story. Karen Travis writes a fall to the Dark Side that is actually believable. You really get an idea for how seductive the Dark Side can be and how an honestly good person could give themselves over to it.
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Jan 26, 2012 16:35
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Say what you will a game mechanic where you can fall to the dark side would be awesome. I don't know if something like this exists, steering clear of TOR cause, you know kids and life and stuff. But a mechanic where you can tap into dark actions or powers with no indication of how it changes your character behind the scenes would be awesome. SW games generally have you working your rear end of building towards the dark side. Imagine a hard boss fight where the game offers to instantly unlock the highest level force lightning! Tempting, but with unknown and unstated consequences.
Bombadilillo fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jan 26, 2012 |
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Jan 26, 2012 18:09
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Oh god, I can only imagine the amount of man-babies that would be crying about how they spent so much time crafting their perfect jedi and it's not fair that they went to the dark side and they should have been warned and that they want a do-over.
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Jan 26, 2012 19:19
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Scruff McGruff posted:Oh god, I can only imagine the amount of man-babies that would be crying about how they spent so much time crafting their perfect jedi and it's not fair that they went to the dark side and they should have been warned and that they want a do-over. Good news, everyone! I've just invented a campaign that can redeem your fallen Jedi. And even better, it only costs $50 for the DLC.
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Jan 26, 2012 19:22
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Scruff McGruff posted:Oh god, I can only imagine the amount of man-babies that would be crying about how they spent so much time crafting their perfect jedi and it's not fair that they went to the dark side and they should have been warned and that they want a do-over. Please some autistic nerd would figure out on day 1 the optimum amount of "dark sided-ness" would be ideal for the most powerful Jedi ever.
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Jan 26, 2012 22:09
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RagnarokAngel posted:Please some autistic nerd would figure out on day 1 the optimum amount of "dark sided-ness" would be ideal for the most powerful Jedi ever. I have to know, are you using "autistic" because aspergers doesn't officially exist anymore?
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Jan 26, 2012 22:25
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Flagrant Abuse posted:No lie, he looks kind of horrifying. I would not cross that dude even without the lightsabre. If all gungans had been like that, the prequels would have been saved (or at least significantly closer to it). All other Gungans where like that, it's just that Jar-Jar was a total gently caress-up that happened to have the most screen time. E: its it's Constant Hamprince fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Jan 30, 2012 |
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Jan 27, 2012 19:33
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What happened to Luke's lightsaber after his hand was cut off in Could City? I assume that was the one Obi Won gave him in SW.
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Jan 30, 2012 16:48
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euphronius posted:What happened to Luke's lightsaber after his hand was cut off in Could City? Don't ask questions you don't want to know the answer to. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anakin_Skywalker%27s_second_lightsaber List of canonical owners of Anakin Skywalker's second lightsaber (I presume it means Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader Dooku Hondo Ohnaka Padmé Amidala Grievous Obi-Wan Kenobi Luke Skywalker Palpatine Luuke Skywalker Leia Organa Solo Mara Jade Skywalker Locutus of Bald fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jan 30, 2012 |
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Jan 30, 2012 16:58
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Well I read that. I seems to remember from ESB that Luke's hand falls out into the atmosphere of Bespin. But that claims a maintenance droid found it and the laser sword.
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Locutus of Bald posted:Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader I thought this was both a duplicate and a typo, but no, there is somebody actually called Luuke Skywalker. I don't think I could ever read that without hearing "LuuUUUUke" like how the cartoon dog says "CoooOOOOkie Crisp!"
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