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Proletarian Mango
May 21, 2011

So I've been following the development of the Icenhancer ENB 2.0 mod for some time now and the guy behind it is very near release. His latest batch of screenshots from it are pretty loving rad. Naturally it's catered to those with super computers from future space. Also, he's been doing some work to make it compatible with version 1.0.07, but don't expect it to be as pretty as the 1.0.04 version. You can check out his Facebook page for the latest info on it. I promise I'm not the guy making this. I'm just hoping he resumes work on his Skyrim version once 2.0 is released.





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Sir Xiphos
Dec 11, 2008

Upmarket Mango posted:

So I've been following the development of the Icenhancer ENB 2.0 mod for some time now and the guy behind it is very near release. His latest batch of screenshots from it are pretty loving rad. Naturally it's catered to those with super computers from future space. Also, he's been doing some work to make it compatible with version 1.0.07, but don't expect it to be as pretty as the 1.0.04 version. You can check out his Facebook page for the latest info on it. I promise I'm not the guy making this. I'm just hoping he resumes work on his Skyrim version once 2.0 is released.







As a console gamer, this makes me weep.

Mice Everywhere
Sep 7, 2007

I love animal porn! So F* you if you don't accept that!
The first one could almost pass for a real photo if it weren't for the poorer quality people standing around.

Proletarian Mango
May 21, 2011

Mice Everywhere posted:

The first one could almost pass for a real photo if it weren't for the poorer quality people standing around.

Yeah, they could really do with a texture lift. The guy working on the mod said he'd do it if he could but he's in no way a character artist.

ExplodingSquidx2
Oct 20, 2010

That's a DAMN fine cup of coffee.
So I finally finished GTA 4 on both endings after getting the Playstation for Christmas. I really enjoyed the game, not sure why it got so much hate.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
:monocle:

Forget Crysis, that really does look real.

The NPCs looked photoshopped into a real photo. It's insane how potential GTA4 had in it.

Wish I had the time to make my install into something other than a soupy, grainy mess.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

ExplodingSquidx2 posted:

So I finally finished GTA 4 on both endings after getting the Playstation for Christmas. I really enjoyed the game, not sure why it got so much hate.
Besides all the 10.0 ratings at launch?

I couldn't enjoy it until I learned to ignore all the optional phone calls.

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

teethgrinder posted:

Besides all the 10.0 ratings at launch?

Well deserved 10s imo, it was a truly stunning achievement. Now I'm just mega pumped for the second GTA5 trailer.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

mistermojo posted:

Well deserved 10s imo, it was a truly stunning achievement. Now I'm just mega pumped for the second GTA5 trailer.

The tech might have deserved 10s (well, not the part that included Niko's turning radius) but the game itself had deep flaws and certainly did not.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Sir Xiphos posted:

As a console gamer, this makes me weep.

That's only fair. Now you know the pain of PC-owners on every GTA release day.

Bloopsy
Jun 1, 2006

you have been visited by the Tasty Garlic Bread. you will be blessed by having good Garlic Bread in your life time, but only if you comment "ty garlic bread" in the thread below

Cliff Racer posted:

The tech might have deserved 10s (well, not the part that included Niko's turning radius) but the game itself had deep flaws and certainly did not.

To me it's a 10 even with "deep flaws" because it was fun as hell when it came out 4 years ago, and it's still just as fun and impressive to me today.

For the record i've purchased this game for 360/PS3 a total of 4 times since it's release.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
10 means perfect, if the game has deep flaws that means it should get a 9 or 8. But then I played on the PC so I had to deal not only with Social Club (and lacking internet the day I got that game, that was rage enduing) and ridiculous frame-rate issues due to the engine not being properly optimized. I actually gave up pretty quickly the first time through and went back to SA for a bit.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
GTAIV is a game I'd rate in the area of 7-ish, which unfortunately for the mainstream gaming press translates to "loving awful".

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot
GTA4 is really pretty, has improved controls, more detailed physics and... that's about it. Niko is the worst GTA character, the plot is stupid and terrible, there's a dramatic lack of progression and customization, the world is incredibly bland and samey, for the first time there are dramatically fewer kinds of vehicles, driving is the least fun, the side content is largely awful, there are almost no random events, the radio stations are nowhere near as good as the previous games, the game runs like rear end on every platform, and there are none of the innovations other games have introduced like replaying missions/cutscenes and having an actually good UI for selecting stuff that you own.

GTA4 is a good game, but Rockstar can do and have done far better. Even TBOGT fixed a lot of the poo poo that was wrong with GTA4, but I hope that GTA5 is more than one step forward and two back.

K8.0 fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Feb 13, 2012

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

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A huge step forward: Let me keep my loving hats and glasses on :argh:

or at least be able to pick them back up gently caress!

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



MeinGott posted:

A huge step forward: Let me keep my loving hats and glasses on :argh:

or at least be able to pick them back up gently caress!

I'm fairly certain they perfected their "putting your loving hat back on" tech with Red Dead Redemption, so this shouldn't be a problem.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
I'm not going to go into another GTAIV bitch fest because unlike others I really like the game.

The problem is that once you get to a certain point, and that point being doing Packie missions, the game suddenly becomes not very fun at all.

On my recent replay I was having a loving blast, remembering all the fun I had when the game first came out. Then I get to this one specific Packie mission and it starts to go downhill from there.

I'd prefer the next GTA have maybe 20-30 story missions total, and make them all memorable and awesome as possible, in Saints Row The Third fashion. Because this plodding, wannabe-Hollywood, plot stretched out too, poorly paced crap is wearing me thin.

One of the major reasons I think both TLAD and Gay Tony are what GTAIV should have been.

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Every time a new GTA game comes out it blows me away, and I don't think I could say that about any other games. It took me several hours of playtime to finally decide that GTA4 wasn't as good as I initially thought. Really all of my complaints came down to new mechanics that didn't work as well as they could have. The shooting, cover, and walking mechanics were particularly frustrating. When Red Dead came out though, all those things were WAY better so I'm confident that GTA5 will really have the Euphoria stuff down well (I know Red Dead was a different studio, but still...).

I see it now the same way I see GTA3. At first I thought it was the greatest game ever but after a few months I started to get sick of some of its flaws. The difference is by that time, Vice City was already coming out (I went from PC GTA3 to PS2 Vice City so there was only a 6 month gap). It's been four years since GTA4 came out, so there's been more time than ever for me to analyze the "current" GTA game. Rockstar released both Vice City and SA within three years of GTA3.

GTA5 has already taken longer to come out than GTA4 did after San Andreas, which is pretty amazing when you consider Rockstar was dealing with all new tech with GTA4. You'd think that after IV came out they would have been able to crank out a sequel within 2 or 3 years and have it be good. This long dev cycle and the fact that they're making it a numbered sequel makes me think that the scope of GTA5 is going to be huge.

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

There are like 5 good SR3 missions and the rest is filler. And the GTA4 tech blows it out of the water

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
I think SR3 looks better because it's bright and colorful. GTA5 looks like a step in the right direction. Also, I liked every mission in SR3 whereas in GTA4, I'm seemingly always doing filler. Apples and oranges, but I think Rockstar would have a higher quality product if they focused making a couple dozen tight missions with infinite replay value and a lot of side content, rather than 90 so-so story missions and poor replay value with little if any side content.

But I don't want this to be a SR vs GTA thing, it's really a quality thing. I can't stand the padding of Rockstar games. GTA3 and Vice City were the perfect length.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
Red Dead Redemption was pretty long but I never really felt the story dragged unnecessarily like GTA4's did. For me the most annoying part of 4 was the way most of the characters would just appear and disappear. Longer and more consistent plot arcs like in RDR would be a great thing in GTA5.

AngryCaterpillar
Feb 1, 2007

I DREW THIS

webmeister posted:

Red Dead Redemption was pretty long but I never really felt the story dragged unnecessarily like GTA4's did. For me the most annoying part of 4 was the way most of the characters would just appear and disappear. Longer and more consistent plot arcs like in RDR would be a great thing in GTA5.

The number of characters in IV that fit the description of "organised criminal that you work for, then kill" is ridiculous.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
That and "rear end in a top hat who you decide is an rear end in a top hat and decide to stop working for" covers pretty much all of them when put together.

Sevalar
Jul 10, 2009

HEY RADICAL LARRY HOW ABOUT A HAIRCUT

****MIC TO THE WILLY***
GTA5, please no more

'I hate keeling'

*Camera pans to car moving to next destination; running over police men, old grannies, and neckbeards*

Signed,

Big fan

DarthXaos
Oct 27, 2010

simosimo posted:

GTA5, please no more

'I hate keeling'

*Camera pans to car moving to next destination; running over police men, old grannies, and neckbeards*

Signed,

Big fan

Please Rockstar, give us another amoral sociopath like Tommy Vercetti or at least a character with Blue and Orange Morality.

MikeRabsitch
Aug 23, 2004

Show us what you got, what you got

webmeister posted:

Red Dead Redemption was pretty long but I never really felt the story dragged unnecessarily like GTA4's did.

Mexico would like a word with you

SMP
May 5, 2009

Knightmare posted:

Mexico would like a word with you

Mexico was the best part of RDR :colbert:.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

SMP posted:

The poncho you get in Mexico was the best part of RDR :colbert:.

Fixed for accuracy/personal bias. :v:

A British Nerd
Jan 18, 2012

Master of the Smurfs
Chuck Fan

Alouicious posted:

Fixed for accuracy/personal bias. :v:

That's a drat good fix, that poncho was badass! Rivalled the feeling I got from donning a Perseus tux and shades in GTA IV.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

K8.0 posted:

GTA4 is a good game, but Rockstar can do and have done far better. Even TBOGT fixed a lot of the poo poo that was wrong with GTA4, but I hope that GTA5 is more than one step forward and two back.

Himuro posted:

One of the major reasons I think both TLAD and Gay Tony are what GTAIV should have been.
Are you guys serious? Thats like saying "GTA:SA is what GTA3 should've been."

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
The difference is that GTA III was basically the first game of its kind, so they didn't know what things would annoy people or suck during gameplay. By the time IV rolled around they had already made three games and should know that having the character be able to turn around and walk through a door without getting stuck on the sides was something people care about.

And that isn't even getting into how samey the early missions were.

Perfect Potato
Mar 4, 2009
I disliked GTA IV but after Saints Row the Third I decided to visit the GTAIV expansions and it only took a half an hour to remind me about why I loving hate the IV installment. A bunch of unlikable assholes screaming at each other over stupid bullshit as they ride down a brown and grey city road while an unfunny and tasteless "My Drunk Uncle" ad blares over the radio. It's just, the disconnect is unbelievable and all it does is make the serious bits feel less serious and more stupid and the wacky, asinine comedy bits more uncomfortable than anything else.

Perfect Potato fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Feb 13, 2012

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
But its on a whole new engine. GTA3 in retrospect is pretty rough compared to all the improvements they were able to do with the engine that they didnt know how to at that time. GTA4 is playing out the same way with the rage engine. They were able to create this awesomely detailed city but they stuck it with a barebones plot just like 3. Everyone says the episodes are better, they already created they city so they were able to focus on the story more and create new things to do, like the mission on the subway car. We cant see much of GTA5 yet but the trailer seemed bright and colorful enough so hopefully we move away from a depressing plot and get something more fun.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Cage posted:

But its on a whole new engine.

So? A new engine doesn't mean you have to relearn things like "give the missions a nice variety" or "don't make the character repeat the same actions over and over again to unlock something like with those terrible girlfriend missions in SA."

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?
The Mac versions of GTA 3/VC/SA were released on Steam today. My question is, has anyone been able to successfully run them? They all hang on launch for me.

e: I guess it wasn't just me, they released an update to fix it.

Lazyhound fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Feb 13, 2012

MikeRabsitch
Aug 23, 2004

Show us what you got, what you got

Cliff Racer posted:

So? A new engine doesn't mean you have to relearn things like "give the missions a nice variety" or "don't make the character repeat the same actions over and over again to unlock something like with those terrible girlfriend missions in SA."

The girlfriends gave you little perks in SA just like friends do in GTAIV, those who want the perks can put in the effort but it's not too difficult to avoid if you don't want to. I too am horribly offended by things in a video game not directly aimed at my tastes.

And a new engine does absolutely mean you have to relearn things like "give the missions a nice variety." As in it's directly evidenced with the DLC having a nice variety after the vanilla game. You can't just tell your guys to tighten up the mission variety on level 3.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

Cliff Racer posted:

So? A new engine doesn't mean you have to relearn things like "give the missions a nice variety" or "don't make the character repeat the same actions over and over again to unlock something like with those terrible girlfriend missions in SA."
Your problem was spending any time on the girlfriends at all. Sorry.

MZ
Apr 21, 2004

Excuse me while I kiss the sky.
I enjoyed GTAIV at the time but it certainly had its faults. Gay Tony went some way to address those and hopefully Rockstar can take bits and pieces of what they've learned from Red Dead Redemption, LA Noire, Max Payne 3 and others (yes I know they didn't develop those but they are under their umbrella) and incorporate some of that into making an incredible GTA5.

My greatest fear is that it will be just GTAIV in a different city, I really hope they change it up a bit. Of course there are some elements that will stay the same, it is a GTA game after all, but hey I can dream right?

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Knightmare posted:

The girlfriends gave you little perks in SA just like friends do in GTAIV, those who want the perks can put in the effort but it's not too difficult to avoid if you don't want to. I too am horribly offended by things in a video game not directly aimed at my tastes.

I don't think the girlfriend missions (driving in circles without going too fast/slow, watching a dinner cutscene or playing the same level of the dancing minigame over and over) appealed to anyone, at all.

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marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

MZ posted:

I enjoyed GTAIV at the time but it certainly had its faults. Gay Tony went some way to address those and hopefully Rockstar can take bits and pieces of what they've learned from Red Dead Redemption, LA Noire, Max Payne 3 and others (yes I know they didn't develop those but they are under their umbrella) and incorporate some of that into making an incredible GTA5.

My greatest fear is that it will be just GTAIV in a different city, I really hope they change it up a bit. Of course there are some elements that will stay the same, it is a GTA game after all, but hey I can dream right?

I'd be happy with GTAIV in a new city. Playing Saints Row 3 and getting bored because of how uninteresting the city is has given me a renewed appreciation of how great Rockstar are at designing cities and I can't wait to explore and mess around in Los Santos again.

GTAIV was a great game, it's just it was a bit disappointing that it was such a step back from San Andreas in a lot of ways.

And yes the phone calls were a bit annoying, but there was an option to turn them off! I'd do that all the time when I fancied just messing around.

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