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FlyingCheese posted:For you goons out there with Steam accounts, the new Steam app is in a closed beta. Installing and attempting a login puts you on the beta list. Oh man I hope this is a first step to a OnLive type system for Steam. TF2 on the go = HNNNNG
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sharktamer posted:Google announces the death of the menu button, long live the action bar I think it's a pretty decent solution for the fact that people still forget the fact that they should try pressing the menu button when they don't know what to do or can't find something. It's fairly easy to implement. I'll throw it in the next version of woofi...
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Cardiovorax posted:I'm not an app developer, but I used to be a developer in general and I think it's hilariously stupid in the same way that Sony's special names for completely mundane features are stupid. My, am I ever impressed, you call the menu bar the action bar now! What a great improvement. I could swear it looks the same, but it sure can't be, it's got a completely different name, after all. ...Sony? Did you read?
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Jan 27, 2012 01:10
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hooah posted:...Sony? Did you read?
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Cardiovorax posted:...yes? Sony calls completely mundane stuff by silly names all the time. Calling stuff that has been standard for years SuperHyperWhatever, you know? I might be mixing up my manufacturers, but it's really not a new thing at all. Google doing this is really only interesting because of the irony and the "don't be evil" dogma. I think you're focusing on the wrong thing. No one thinks it is interesting because it's called an Action Bar. It's interesting because it is a different UI metaphor from what they were using before. AKA, options used to be hidden behind a menu button, now they're explicitly out there in the open.
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Thermopyle posted:I think you're focusing on the wrong thing. No one thinks it is interesting because it's called an Action Bar. It's interesting because it is a different UI metaphor from what they were using before. AKA, options used to be hidden behind a menu button, now they're explicitly out there in the open.
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Jan 27, 2012 01:24
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Thermopyle posted:I think it's a pretty decent solution for the fact that people still forget the fact that they should try pressing the menu button when they don't know what to do or can't find something. It's pretty much no effort at all to implement if your app is using the native actionbar. The menu button and this are the same thing (as is the actionbar).
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Jan 27, 2012 01:26
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Cardiovorax posted:I'm not seeing much of a difference, honestly They're not using the menu button anymore. Like you know how there's a menu button on your phone? It's not gonna be used.
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Jan 27, 2012 01:35
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Install Gentoo posted:They're not using the menu button anymore. Like you know how there's a menu button on your phone? It's not gonna be used.
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Jan 27, 2012 01:38
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Cardiovorax posted:So I've got that button? Google says I can't use it anymore, in the future. Thanks a bunch, I guess. Huge difference to just deciding it'S the ACTION BUTTON now. No, there is no button. Have you used Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich? Instead of having physical or capacitive buttons you have a bar on the screen with buttons, and the Menu button icon only shows upon apps meant for older versions. Otherwise it doesn't exist at all.
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Jan 27, 2012 01:45
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Install Gentoo posted:No, there is no button. I think he's saying he has the button (the hardware button) on his current phone and is displeased that it will no longer have a use.
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Jan 27, 2012 01:58
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Glimm posted:I think he's saying he has the button (the hardware button) on his current phone and is displeased that it will no longer have a use. It will still work in old apps. And he seems to think it's being renamed to "action button" when that's not even close to reality.
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lelandjs posted:Oh man I hope this is a first step to a OnLive type system for Steam. TF2 on the go = HNNNNG Only partially related to the thread. I love OnLive on my phone/iPad/Father-in-Law's tablet. I just wish it could hook into Steam somehow (particularly because of my level-48 hunter in Borderlands).
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Can anybody recommend a good photo editing program for applying filters/adjusting levels after taking a picture? All of the camera apps that I have only let me edit during the preview phase, I'd like to be able to go back to the old photos on my phone and edit them too. My Droid X had some basic crop/rotate tools, but this Droid charge has no such options, or anything else for that matter.  That was a lot of words to say "I want to edit my camera photos", oh well!!
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Install Gentoo posted:No, there is no button. Am I understanding correctly that you're saying there's going to be another permanent lost 80 pixels on top of the first row of missing real-estate? I mean, in the Android Police screenshot the two bars stacked are 10% of the screen. 
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Jan 27, 2012 03:32
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Are there any alarm clock apps able to tell me the weather, whatever events I have in google calendar (or Astrid) and maybe read a RSS feed?
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Splizwarf posted:Am I understanding correctly that you're saying there's going to be another permanent lost 80 pixels on top of the first row of missing real-estate? I mean, in the Android Police screenshot the two bars stacked are 10% of the screen. The screenshot is from ICS Gmail and gives an example of a "full" action bar. Rather than hiding compose, delete, etc., in a menu, they are put there. That's just one app, though. Another app, like Market, has search and settings as the only things in the action bar. It isn't a fixed set of extra buttons, but I think you're right that it will take up some screen space in most apps to get the most useful functions out from menus. Ciabatta fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Jan 27, 2012 |
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Jan 27, 2012 05:06
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Cardiovorax posted:So I've got that button? Google says I can't use it anymore, in the future. Thanks a bunch, I guess. Huge difference to just deciding it'S the ACTION BUTTON now. 1) I'm not sure why you're throwing a huge hissy fit about a name. It's got to have a name otherwise how would they document it in the SDK and other help files? "That bar at the top"? Were you this mad when Apple called video chatting Face Time? 2) Android is laid out like poo poo and the non standard use of the Menu button needs to go. By eliminating it with the use of Holo, the Action Bar and contextual Menu buttons Google hopes to unify the look and feel of apps. I can't think of a single valid complaint against any of that and I don't mind taking pot shots at Android.
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Yeah, sorry for the derail. I wasn't angry, just kind of incredulous about how silly the change looks to me, although I guess it kind of sounded like it. Nevermind me.
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Cardiovorax posted:So I've got that button? Google says I can't use it anymore, in the future. Thanks a bunch, I guess. Huge difference to just deciding it'S the ACTION BUTTON now. The action bar overflow button doesn't show up on devices which have a hardware menu button, so you'll get to play hide and seek exactly like before if you own a device without software navigation buttons. According to Pocketnow this years Sense 4.0 ICS devices will actually go with 3 hardware buttons, so you could always go with HTC from here on out if you don't like the idea of software buttons. (Or the Padfone if you want both.  )
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Jan 27, 2012 13:13
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So in the future any app that has options is going to have a visible Action Bar all the time it's in the foreground?
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:So in the future any app that has options is going to have a visible Action Bar all the time it's in the foreground? App developers can enable or disable the action bar based on the Android version of the device. I really don't see why people are getting so narky about this. If you don't have a menu button, there'll be an overflow button in ICS. If you do have a menu button, developers will either still utilise it, or improve their UI so you don't need it.
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:So in the future any app that has options is going to have a visible Action Bar all the time it's in the foreground? By default apps targetting HC/ICS and beyond automatically get an action bar without any action from the dev. However the dev is free to show no action bars, show a top and bottom action bar, only show the bottom action bar, auto-hide the action bars etc if they choose. Going by the law of least dev effort, most apps will get an action bar.
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Vagrancy posted:By default apps targetting HC/ICS and beyond automatically get an action bar without any action from the dev. However the dev is free to show no action bars, show a top and bottom action bar, only show the bottom action bar, auto-hide the action bars etc if they choose. (Thanks for the explanation)
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From reading the article, my interpretation is that Google want developers to put obvious, important, need-it-now buttons right in front of users (new email, search through email) and put the rest, lesser used buttons (options/preferences menu link, go to another mail folder) behind the [...] button. The intent is to solve the 'gently caress it, throw it all in the Menu button' problem, and make it so apps can adapt to big and small screens ('only show this, that, and the other button if there is room to')
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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gmq posted:Are there any alarm clock apps able to tell me the weather, whatever events I have in google calendar (or Astrid) and maybe read a RSS feed? I've got an app on my Touchpad that does almost all of that. https://market.android.com/details?...2h0Lm5pZ2h0Il0. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sweetmerch.www.night.night.pro&hl=en I'm not sure about the RSS part, but everything else you mentioned is there. The free one is what I'm using at the moment.
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I have lightflow. How are notifications handled when there are conflicting settings? For example, if Go SMS pro has vibration disabled, but I have vibration enabled in lightflow. Which app has priority?
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Thank you for linking to my app in the OP! I'm the developer of Beaver, which is a private browser with a built in, hidden image and bookmark vault. There's a full featured free version linked in the OP. Today we release version 2.3 after several months of development. Things have been pretty rough the last few months for developers, Google has been making big changes to the SDK and we've been scrambling to keep up with all the new documentation, libraries and standards. Our app is fully functional in ICS, but we still have some work to do to bring it up to Google's documented standards. We aren't too happy with Google's intent of getting rid of the menu button, and it really hurts anyone who develops full screen apps (like us). The general consensus in the dev community is pretty negative. At this point there's really nothing to do but wait and see how receptive the device manufacturers are to this change, so far they're all pretty  about it.Anyway, here's the changelist: * Added bookmark sorting * Added option to mute sound on startup * Added additional privacy options * Added HTTP Authentication support * Performance & security improvements * Updated user agent strings * Fixed image decoding issues (Android 3.0+) * Fixed zoom button hiding (Android 3.0+) * Reorganized settings menu * Importing images from SD is now done in alphabetical order * Improved support for 3.0+ devices including ICS We're planning on renaming the app for the next version, apparently the word "Beaver" means VAGINA everywhere in the world except for Canada. It's a shame cause beaver's are pretty loving cool, they cut down loving trees and build giant waterfront condos with them. So go ahead, suggest some names!
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While we got you here, beaver man, why doesn't beaver appear in the recent app list, and why can't I set it as default action for following links? Or rather, how do I make beaver do these things? Also, I vote for keeping "beaver". eta: Also, I noticed that the url input line happily remembers the password in plaintext. Type the first letter, and it'll pop right up for everyone to see. What gives? Lawson fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Jan 28, 2012 |
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Honestly I never understood the point of a browser to hide your porn called the "Beaver Browser". Edit: Wait, whiskas, are you saying you're Canadian and therefore somehow never come across the colloquial meaning for beaver? Jesus christ. ClassActionFursuit fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Jan 28, 2012 |
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whiskas posted:We're planning on renaming the app for the next version, apparently the word "Beaver" means VAGINA everywhere in the world except for Canada. Holy poo poo, so it wasn't an intentional nudge-wink joke all along?  Oh, Canada. 
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hey santa baby posted:While we got you here, beaver man, why doesn't beaver appear in the recent app list, and why can't I set it as default action for following links? Or rather, how do I make beaver do these things? Not appearing in the recent apps list is intentional, it's one of the methods we use to cover up your tracks. If you want to have the app start where you left off then check the "keep running in background" option in the privacy & security settings. URL's are only remembered if they are typed in after you login, so you may have typed your password in after you had already unlocked your stashes. You can clear the url history by using the "clear address bar history" option in the privacy & security settings, you must be logged in to see this option. Saved URL's are never shown when not logged in. We did experiment with allowing Beaver to be set as the default browser on your device, however we found there are still some pretty big features that are missing to make it fill the gap of a primary browser, specifically, a download manager. Once Beaver can fill the shoes of a regular browser we make it settable as the default browser. LastInLine posted:Honestly I never understood the point of a browser to hide your porn called the "Beaver Browser". Splizwarf posted:Holy poo poo, so it wasn't an intentional nudge-wink joke all along? Yah I'm Canadian,  even the SA emoticon has a beaver. I honestly don't see any resemblance, whoever came up with that term must have seen some pretty nasty vaginas in their time.Shortly after releasing someone sent me this: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=beaver You can see by the ranking on urban dictionary that vagina is a more popular definition, and while being hilariously appropriate for my app, I agree it does detract from its attempt at being inconspicuous. That's why we plan on doing a complete rename/rebrand for the next release.
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For what it's worth Whiskas, I hadn't heard the term in Australia either and only knew of it from all the Americans on the internet.
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Ahahaha, oh god that made me laugh. Thank you for that (and the app! It's super useful- not that I'd have anything specific that I use it for...  )
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I'm with the people who thought this was an intentional double entendre. That must've been a revelation. You've been making a secret browser for porn all this time and suddenly you find out "Wait, beaver means vagina?  "
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Wow, Android apps come with crapware now, too? I went through a bunch of live wallpapers suggested in this thread earlier, now I suddenly have some unbranded search site linked on the phone desktop (searchonlinemobile.com), that no less emulates the tabbed look of Google web search, minus the logo. I'm suspecting that AOI Solar Winds LWP.
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whiskas posted:I honestly don't see any resemblance, whoever came up with that term must have seen some pretty nasty vaginas in their time. I believe it comes from the fact that beaver tail looks like a big hairy vagina patch.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Wow, Android apps come with crapware now, too? You mentioning a search site popping up on your desktop unbidden made me remember an article I read yesterday. . http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/29003963/0/androinica~Symantec-Warns-of-AndroidCounterclank-Always-Check-Permissions You've got yourself some malware. Start wiping and changing passwords.
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I ran Norton over it (since it's Symantec that's warning), didn't find anything. Passwords-a-changin' I guess. Also, gently caress these Android app sites that only display a QR code, but don't place a link to the market. --edit: PanoPlanet Live Wallpaper is pretty cool. Doesn't noticably slow down the home screen on my Galaxy Nexus, unlike other wallpapers, that you'd expect to be leaner in CPU usage. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jfreu.panoplanetwallpaper  
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Anybody ever had issues with exchange/activesync email on android even after using Nitro's TouchDown? I configured TouchDown and it did its initial sync and downloaded all my current emails. Now if I send a test email from another account I never receive that email. Ive waited 30-45 minutes and nothing. If I go into touchdown and actually click "synch" it receives all the emails since my last sync. I am not our Exchange admin but I do have access to check logs/settings etc. Other users are not having problems.
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