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Well that was a boring and pretty poorly played game but that's three wins in a row with one of them being on the road down a man. It's a good string of results and I really don't think the B team from 2-3 years back would have been able to hold out for the win like we did tonight. Either way, Sapong should be playing more as he actually knows how to hold the ball up it seems.
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Rabbi Tupac posted:Well that was a boring and pretty poorly played game but that's three wins in a row with one of them being on the road down a man. It's a good string of results and I really don't think the B team from 2-3 years back would have been able to hold out for the win like we did tonight. Yep. CJ is gonna have a breakout year for us this year (both for the US and Wiz)
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Jan 26, 2012 05:22
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D-man, did you go to Barrett's? I couldn't make it. Haven't gotten to a match there since I moved up here/AO Omaha came about
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Jan 26, 2012 05:37
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Jan 26, 2012 05:57
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XyrlocShammypants posted:A bunch of foreigners discussing why Landon Donovan stays in the US instead of going abroad without mentioning: Landycakes is poo poo, and its a shame hes the (second) best we have to offer.
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Jan 26, 2012 06:40
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Reek posted:Landycakes is poo poo, and its a shame hes the (second) best we have to offer. Uh, right. Must be why he's consistently been the best player on the pitch for Everton since he's been back. Landon makes way more money in the US. The paycut he'd have to take to play for Everton full time is just ridiculous.
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Jan 26, 2012 11:46
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Games minus Donovan when we're playing our A-TEAM you always notice he's gone, and it's even more terrifying when he's playing and he's anonymous. Furthermore, as good as Dempsey is it seems like without fail during USMNT game he's either falling or being knocked over constantly. It's become a running joke since the World Cup between my friends and I "Oh where's Dempsey heh he's on the ground" and more often than not he is. He still owns though and can Score a Goal and he's doing very well at Fulham this season.
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80085 posted:Uh, right. Must be why he's consistently been the best player on the pitch for Everton since he's been back. Seeing as he wasn't the first or second best player for the Galaxy this past season, all this tells me is that Everton is true poo poo. (or he's finally motivated again)
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Jan 26, 2012 17:09
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He was totally our second best player last year. Omar edged him out but slightly, but he was still better than everyone else.
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Jan 26, 2012 18:02
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Well, I'll say he's the second best still on your squad. I really think Juninho was better than him this year.
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80085 posted:Uh, right. Must be why he's consistently been the best player on the pitch for Everton since he's been back. Also he would have to live in England and I don't think he wants to.
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cheese posted:Also he would have to live in England and I don't think he wants to. If he could have figured his poo poo out in Germany we could be talking about a top 25-50 player in the world in Donovan. Instead he decided to go back to SoCal and let his development stagnate, and be the big fish in a small pond in MLS.
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Mafiostasso posted:Well, I'll say he's the second best still on your squad. I really think Juninho was better than him this year. He wasn't. Juninho was great, but Donovan was way more valuable to us. Donovan's stints in Germany were terrible because he was in terrible environments. Every single team he played for simply gave no fucks about his development and would actively stymie his attempts to play. If he had stayed at Leverkusen, he would be just another Sal Zizzo, Preston Zimmerman, etc. Coming back to the US saved his career and made him the player he is today along with the attitude adjustment he received when he came back.
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Shrapnac posted:If he could have figured his poo poo out in Germany we could be talking about a top 25-50 player in the world in Donovan. Instead he decided to go back to SoCal and let his development stagnate, and be the big fish in a small pond in MLS. Pretty sure this is 100% false. I don't think he would have developed at all in Germany. I completely agree with B.B. Rodriquez's assessment.
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B.B. Rodriguez posted:He wasn't. Juninho was great, but Donovan was way more valuable to us. While I agree that Germany probably would have been bad for his development (mostly because of his issues with being out of America) I really do not feel he developed much further than where he was in the US. There is little difference between 2010 WC Donovan and 2002 WC Donovan. One is a bit slower but smarter and takes better set pieces. In reality, I really think Donovan's growth would be stunted no matter what he did.
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B.B. Rodriguez posted:Donovan's stints in Germany were terrible because he was in terrible environments. Every single team he played for simply gave no fucks about his development and would actively stymie his attempts to play. If he had stayed at Leverkusen, he would be just another Sal Zizzo, Preston Zimmerman, etc. Coming back to the US saved his career and made him the player he is today along with the attitude adjustment he received when he came back. I kind of agree with you, but that doesn't make Donovan sound any better in the Donovan/Dempsey debate. It's not like Dempsey had it any better with Fulham where each year saw a new manager come in and say "Yeah, I know you were one of our leading scorers, but I'm going to start these other guys over you because they HAVE to be better than you- they're from Europe while you're just from Texas".
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Even though Clint is doing great, I still don't think he's better than Landon. Look at what has happened to Everton since his arrival. They were dreadful and now they are simply ok. Donovan is the best player on the field constantly. Without him and his set up play, they would have lost every game this month. He just isnt scoring because thats not his job for Everton. This stint in England has actually made him better in my eyes. In November, at the MLS Cup, I would have said what you said, but seeing him play in the EPL for a worse team than Clint and still being great is proof enough for me. And all this is coming from a Liverpool fan who finds it difficult to say nice things about Everton.
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I really don't have a dog in the hunt either way. I like Donovan's total game more than Clint's, but I respect the path Clint has traveled to get where he is more than Landon. I still think prior to this Everton run, which I totally agree has been great, Donovan's play has been subpar for him Specifically this season and about half of last. I'm not knocking him as a player really, just seems like he's been off to me.
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Jan 27, 2012 18:43
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This seems like a reasonable place to ask in regard to our national team: Why do the Olympics put age restrictions on the men's team? I don't think they have it for the women's team, or most sports in general.
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:This seems like a reasonable place to ask in regard to our national team: Why do the Olympics put age restrictions on the men's team? I don't think they have it for the women's team, or most sports in general. Because nobody gives a gently caress about the Olympics and there's already this big international tournament called the World Cup. Maybe you've heard of it?
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Shrapnac posted:Because nobody gives a gently caress about the Olympics and there's already this big international tournament called the World Cup. Maybe you've heard of it? Hey thanks for being a dick, but the existence of the world cup doesn't prevent national teams from playing on other meaningless tournaments, so why not the olympics?
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:Hey thanks for being a dick, but the existence of the world cup doesn't prevent national teams from playing on other meaningless tournaments, so why not the olympics? The Summer Olympics also conflict with the European Championships so you'd never see a Germany, Spain, Italy, Portugal, whatever representing their Olympic team because the Euros are more prestigious. I'm all for the Olympics being a U-23 tournament. It gives senior players a chance to rest during the summer and is a good shop window for up and coming talent.
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That makes sense, thanks.
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:That makes sense, thanks. It probably also has to do with FIFA and how they view the Olympics (not a money making venture for them). England also can't play in the Olympics so that might make people upset.
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:This seems like a reasonable place to ask in regard to our national team: Why do the Olympics put age restrictions on the men's team? I don't think they have it for the women's team, or most sports in general. The Olympics wants to be the most prestigious event in every sport. The World Cup will always overshadow the Olympics so they just turn into a silly U-23 tournament instead.
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Conartist posted:It probably also has to do with FIFA and how they view the Olympics (not a money making venture for them). England also can't play in the Olympics so that might make people upset. Won't the Great Britain team essentially be the England U23s though? I thought the other Home Nations had decided not to participate.
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Plus the Olympics likes to pretend they only allow amateur athletes, so it SORT OF makes sense to only use younger people... right?
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In case anyone that cares didn't already know, US Women v Costa Rica is currently in the 8th minute or so -- win and they're through to the Olympics. CONCACAF.com and Universalsports.com both have legal feeds.
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Howdy posted:In case anyone that cares didn't already know, US Women v Costa Rica is currently in the 8th minute or so -- win and they're through to the Olympics. CONCACAF.com and Universalsports.com both have legal feeds. excellent. espn3 was a bust
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joshtothemaxx posted:Plus the Olympics likes to pretend they only allow amateur athletes, so it SORT OF makes sense to only use younger people... right? I'm not sure that can really be said since the days of the Dream Team, but yeah, originally, it was all about being an amateur.
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foobardog posted:I'm not sure that can really be said since the days of the Dream Team, but yeah, originally, it was all about being an amateur. The Soviets killed that 'amateur' thing long before the Dream Team, by giving their athletes military positions that involved no military duties whatsoever.
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Lamont Cranston posted:Won't the Great Britain team essentially be the England U23s though? I thought the other Home Nations had decided not to participate.
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Jan 28, 2012 03:55
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Alex Morgan puts away the third goal in the 89th, and that's the end of the game.
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Jan 28, 2012 04:03
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Everyone loves Alex Morgan 
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cheese posted:Also he would have to live in England and I don't think he wants to. Would you?
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CPColin posted:Everyone loves Alex Morgan Hey look, still true two days later.
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This game is actually being televised on Versus if anyone gets that.
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