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If there was a hatch, there would be no room on the market for a shooting brake!  We can dream...
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japtor posted:What about the 2000GT? I'm sorry, but I see more S30 Z car in this than either of the AE85 or 2000gt. From the identical kink in the window behind the b-pillar and the silhouette, to the headlights, which seem very much like a modern interpretation of the Z's tear drop ones.     Even the gas door placement is the same.   (( The Z was a hatch though. ))
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Jan 28, 2012 07:18
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Has this been posted yet: http://www.topgear.com/uk/toyota/gt-86/road-test/driven They seem to be very excited about it - so am I.
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Jan 28, 2012 13:20
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Cream_Filling posted:If there was a hatch, there would be no room on the market for a shooting brake! I would probably pay a 5k premium for a shooting brake because that is how rad shooting brakes are.
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Jan 28, 2012 14:49
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God, after reading that review I really want to test drive the Toyota. But then I'll be forced to buy it. I love having no car payments. I love having no car payments. I love having no car payments.
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Jan 28, 2012 17:57
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Traumatica posted:Has this been posted yet: http://www.topgear.com/uk/toyota/gt-86/road-test/driven Uh quote:Tada-san told me there were three key elements to the car for him, things he (together with his opposite number at Subaru, Toshio Masuda) had to fight for tooth and nail. One was to steer clear of turbocharging, the second was that it should be rear-wheel drive and the final one was to use narrow tyres. I love that. And it's not just that the 215/45 R17's aren't oversized, it's that they're not a sports tyre either. They're Michelin Primacys for heaven's sake - as fitted to the Prius. So straight out of the box they are saying that this car isn't meant to beat anyone around a track, but you're going to have fun getting the rear end loose around every corner.
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Jan 28, 2012 19:23
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I'll be the first to say I don't really belong in AI because I have no clue about what I'm talking about, but 200 bhp without a turbo doesn't exactly sound anemic.
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Jan 28, 2012 19:31
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Yeah I remember the escort cosworth coming out with a then-mind-blowing timbo'd 204hp.
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Jan 28, 2012 19:41
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Bumming Your Scene posted:Uh All it means is when you park a supercharger on top of that motor, you get to look at it all the time.
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Jan 28, 2012 19:55
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Internet Explorer posted:I'll be the first to say I don't really belong in AI because I have no clue about what I'm talking about, but 200 bhp without a turbo doesn't exactly sound anemic. 200hp isn't anemic but it's also not really anything to write home about in a sports car segment.
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Jan 28, 2012 21:12
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Bumming Your Scene posted:Uh http://www.autoguide.com/manufacturer/scion/2013-scion-frs-review-video-1809.html quote:It’s not the raw driving machine many may expect. Its not visceral like a Lotus Elise or as singular in purpose as a Honda S2000, and it won’t beat you up. In fact, it’s quite civilized. It is, however, very much a purist’s car and one that company CEO Akio Toyoda aptly remarked, “rewards proper driving technique.”
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Jan 28, 2012 21:43
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I've never driven one, but civilized and easy to drift seems to take after the 240sx/200sx the most, doesn't it?
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Jan 28, 2012 21:55
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Just got back from the Philly car show where they had a BRZ on display. Unfortunately I wasn't able to sit in it, but my first impression was extremely favorable. It looks a bit strange from the rear, but overall it's great. It's incredible how low they got the engine.
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Jan 28, 2012 22:06
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Residency Evil posted:Just got back from the Philly car show where they had a BRZ on display. Unfortunately I wasn't able to sit in it, but my first impression was extremely favorable. It looks a bit strange from the rear, but overall it's great. It's incredible how low they got the engine. Was it just too crowded, or are they not allowing people in? I'm going next week and was hoping to sit in it.
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Jan 28, 2012 22:08
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opengl128 posted:Was it just too crowded, or are they not allowing people in? I'm going next week and was hoping to sit in it. They weren't letting people in but it was only one of those cloth dividers. Maybe they'll let people sit in it during the week? It was (predictably) a zoo there today. Porsche 911 Carrera S looked incredible too.
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Jan 28, 2012 22:10
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Residency Evil posted:Just got back from the Philly car show where they had a BRZ on display. Unfortunately I wasn't able to sit in it, but my first impression was extremely favorable. It looks a bit strange from the rear, but overall it's great. It's incredible how low they got the engine. Pretty depressing interior, at least the BRZ was covered up in carbon bits. 
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Jan 28, 2012 22:26
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How does it seem size wise? The internet says it's practically identical in external size to a 370z... Does it seem so in the flesh? Residency Evil posted:Just got back from the Philly car show where they had a BRZ on display. Unfortunately I wasn't able to sit in it, but my first impression was extremely favorable. It looks a bit strange from the rear, but overall it's great. It's incredible how low they got the engine.
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Jan 28, 2012 22:47
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smooth jazz posted:How does it seem size wise? I'm sure you can look up the actual length online, but it seemed smaller and less bulbous than the 350/370z in person.
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Jan 28, 2012 22:51
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Residency Evil posted:I'm sure you can look up the actual length online, but it seemed smaller and less bulbous than the 350/370z in person. Length 166.7 in. Width 69.9 in. Height 51.2 in. (think I saw 48-49" some other places) Wheelbase 101.2 in. Track F/R 59.8/60.6 in. 370Z: Length 167.2 Width 72.6 Height 51.8 Wheelbase 100.4 Track F/R 61.0/62.8 So pretty close at the extremities, but looking at pictures of both I can see why it might look smaller in person.
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Jan 28, 2012 23:30
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Curious as to how it "sits"; the 370 is the only frame of reference I can think of at the moment. This pic floating around suggests they're pretty similar, but check out low much lower the 86s' hood sits. Pretty remarkable... 
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Jan 28, 2012 23:34
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smooth jazz posted:Curious as to how it "sits"; the 370 is the only frame of reference I can think of at the moment. Yeah this is what really struck me when I saw it in person. I think what allows it to do so is the engine sitting so low in the bay. Definitely looks better than the Z, although I've always thought the Z looks like a muscular fat kid.
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Jan 28, 2012 23:54
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Interesting, it just occurred to me that the Toyobaru is 2 inches wider than my 07 Leggy... PS is it an industry standard to include mirrors when measuring width? If so I guess the numbers mean nothing... japtor posted:Found these as "preliminary" specs for the 86: smooth jazz fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Jan 29, 2012 |
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Jan 29, 2012 00:34
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smooth jazz posted:Interesting, it just occurred to me that the Toyobaru is 2 inches wider than my 07 Leggy... It's usually measured at the widest point without mirrors, there's usually an asterisk or footnote when they are included.
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Jan 29, 2012 01:34
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Bumming Your Scene posted:So straight out of the box they are saying that this car isn't meant to beat anyone around a track, but you're going to have fun getting the rear end loose around every corner. That makes me excited. But then, I drive a Miata. And that is the Miata way.
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Jan 29, 2012 05:27
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Huh, they're bringing the same tire size over from the Vibe GT and the Scion TC.
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Jan 29, 2012 06:09
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Ziploc posted:That makes me excited. But then, I drive a Miata. And that is the Miata way. Loose rear end?  The more I read about this car the more I want one, we just need to know the damned price now. Has there been any news of when we should know?
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Jan 29, 2012 11:25
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Ziploc posted:That makes me excited. But then, I drive a Miata. And that is the Miata way. Oh Zippy, you need to make a trip down here sometime and see the fleet.
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Jan 29, 2012 12:03
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This is a post in which crow is eaten. My wife and I went to the Washington DC Auto Show yesterday, interested in sitting in all the current cars on the market to see if we can find anything we both fit in comfortably. We are at opposites of the height spectrum (6'7" and 4'11"), and so far we've only been able to comfortably compromise in Volvos, because their seat angles are more customizable than most other cars. We had a look at the various Minis (nothing was right), got told we were too poor to try the Evora or the FF, tried to fit in a Veloster, found out most of my head sticks out over a Miata's windshield, couldn't operate the electric controls in the 370 because the car had no power (unlike the rest of the vehicles at the show), discovered my right leg's too big for the 4-door Wrangler I've always wanted, and found out that she actually doesn't really like the seat in a C30. This last one was a big downer, and a poor capstone to the outing. What else was there to look at? Oh. Oh.  Here's a photo of the two of us, for a height comparison that always seems worse in photos than it feels. For reference, I'm 30 and she's 28.  Wait. What are we posing with, inside that velvet rope? I... I thought it wasn't going to be at this show! Well, since fellow goon Casnorf sweet-talked one of the Subaru technical folks into letting us have a bit of a closer look, let's answer the biggest burning question: will we both fit in it? Her, at 4'11" and 95 lbs:   Me, at 6'7" and 345lbs:   Not only do we both fit nicely, I suspect I might even be able to handle a clutch thanks to the telescopic tilt wheel. The seating and positioning was absolutely comfortable for both of us, which is absurd. My hair sticks up about 2 inches and was just barely brushing the headliner, so I should even be able to get a helmet on in there. I assume I don't have to explain to any of you just how great it is to say "Holy poo poo, this car; we should get one." and have my wife go "Hell yeah!" Every last one of you bastards is going to fit in this car just fine. Well, not all at once, of course; after all, it's not a hatch.  DC area goons, the show runs until the end of next weekend. You should go. As a bonus, here's me finding out that I wouldn't enjoy a Norton Commando. 
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Jan 30, 2012 01:03
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Splizwarf posted:
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Jan 30, 2012 01:39
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Haha wow that deserves its own thread.
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Jan 30, 2012 01:47
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I wasn't that interested in the BRZ until I sat in that one. It feels like sitting in my 944, with what felt like about the same visibility. I really want one now.
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Jan 30, 2012 01:54
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You need to watermark all your pictures with "NOT A PEDO - SHES JUST MY WIFE" because drat.
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Jan 30, 2012 01:55
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I really appreciate knowing that I won't have any issues fitting in the BRZ but what the hell 
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Jan 30, 2012 02:10
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Oh my. Oh. My.
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Jan 30, 2012 02:14
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The joys of being a gigantic person.  I figured I'd get some poo poo about it.
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Jan 30, 2012 02:17
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I'm actually more interested in this as a stepping stone before I get a Z06 or CTS-V or something along those lines and kill myself in the first 10 minutes because I haven't driven a RWD vehicle in 10 years. I think it would be pretty good for that.
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Jan 30, 2012 04:14
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Splizwarf posted:The joys of being a gigantic person. Haha, don't feel bad dude. I'm a tall guy, my wife is really short, and in pictures the two of us standing together looks pretty hilarious. Does your wife like standing on step stools to hug you too
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Jan 30, 2012 04:24
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Thanks a million for this. This picture should be on the front page of that f86club website. I must admit you don't look terribly comfortable, but if you say it's ok, then it's ok. I think you've answered the prayers of hundreds if not thousands of big people. Splizwarf posted:
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Jan 30, 2012 04:40
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All bitching about no turbos aside, I'm pretty excited to take this car for a test-drive, especially now that I know I will fit.
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test car (the one with the swirly camo) spotted driving around in Melbourne There is a photo but im lazy and you know what the car looks like anyway
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