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Waverhouse posted:Quick question: When dormmamu does his purple bullet projectile think (I think its his forward M) and he teleports, which way do I block? I can jump to avoid but it sometimes I dont have that option. 1) It's his forward H, not M. 2) Block whichever way you'd block Dormammu himself at the time the projectile would hit. So if he shoots one from the left side of the screen, and then teleports behind you to the right side, you want to hold left (blocking away from Dorm). Assists work the same way.
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Question about Doom's foot dive loop: I can do the corner loop relatively consistently, even ending with some cool finishers like Sphere Flame XF Sphere Flame, and if I have 3 bars I can actually do almost 1mil with The Chair. However I cannot seem to get the mid-screen loop down because the j.S misses sometimes and I cannot figure out why. I tried doing 2 j.Ms in a row so that I would end up higher so that the f+H xx j.S would hit but I can't do it consistently. Can anyone give me the bare-bones easiest way to land it consistently? This is the most important part of his damage output and I need to know how to not gently caress it up in a match. Thanks!
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Jan 28, 2012 23:49
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If you're talking about the Buktooth loop, you're not supposed to to j.S. You airdash down-forward after j.fH and do c.MHS, then repeat.
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Jan 28, 2012 23:51
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The reason everybody misses the midscreen loop is the S missing. You just have to really delay the two j.m's before trying to go into f.h footdive then S footdive. It's really easy to visually time it though, because Doom has to be pretty high above them before going into the footdives.
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Jan 28, 2012 23:53
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You can also do the two j.Ms as fast as humanly possible after launcher. That's what I do and I'm pretty sure it's what Clock does as well.
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Jan 28, 2012 23:55
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Krad posted:Why not add that DLC everyone's been asking for, anyway? Does Capcom not like money all of a sudden? Ultimate MvC3 sold really poorly. It wouldn't surprise me if making DLC for it at this point wouldn't even be profitable to the extent of being worthwhile.
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Jan 28, 2012 23:58
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Chocolate America posted:Question about Doom's foot dive loop: The midscreen footdive loop (or the "Clockwork loop" or whatever the hell it's actually called): You have to delay the two Ms in the air as much as you can so that you hit the footdives as high as possible. If you do it right you should be able to hit your opponent with the f.H footdive at the very top of his hitbox so that it almost looks like you're going to fly over his head. Then once you get that down be sure to input the airdash before the S hits and then whiff a normal IMMEDIATELY as soon as you're able to.
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Jan 29, 2012 00:11
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Brett824 posted:Ultimate MvC3 sold really poorly. It wouldn't surprise me if making DLC for it at this point wouldn't even be profitable to the extent of being worthwhile. Actually, it did fairly well. Leaked NPD Numbers at NeoGAF actually had it around 180K-200K in November alone across both consoles and then 70K-90K in December. Japan was at around 70-80K (Including the PSV version) according to Dengeki sales and Europe was 70-100K according to ChartTrack. Easily around the 400,000-450,000 number and still with two more versions to be released with the PSV launch. Everyone on SRK and everywhere else is using the VG Chartz numbers and theres this big massive panic of "OH GOD IT DIDN'T DO WELL NO MORE MARVEL". It's doing good numbers, just nothing braggable like the millions Call Of Duty, Saints Row, Skyrim et all did the same window or a bomb like Rayman Origins. I'm thinking it's More like it's "No DLC till Marvel panics again over the fact that Activision, THQ and Sega are releasing condensed poo poo in a box with their licences and need a Marvel game that actually sells" or "Lets wait to see how the Vita version does in the US and Europe first". Though knowing Capcom, the statement of "Oh it's impossible" is probably designed to make people more vocal and rabid about it till they "conceed" and say "We love our fans so much that we did it, just for you" over on Unity.
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Jan 29, 2012 00:13
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The Rokstar posted:Buktooth loop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yPskuh1yx8 The Buktooth is too hard for me but thanks for posting it.  Thanks for the tips on the Clock loop everyone. I'll try delaying the Ms and doing them as fast as possible and see which one works best. I got the best results from delaying them but I was probably not doing it optimally each time. I'll have to practice the rhythm. I am seriously hype about my new team. All it needed was me spending enough time in the lab with Doom to get his simplest meterless high damage combos working and BLAMMO my team just got 100% better. Literally the only drawback to Doom that I can think of is that he doesn't have a teleport, so I'll miss that but I shouldn't need it. Also I have a much better zoning/approach/combo-extending assist! 
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Chocolate America posted:The Buktooth is too hard for me but thanks for posting it.
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Jan 29, 2012 01:01
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If I can do the Buktooth, then anybody can. It's the first loop combo that I've been able to get down in one of these games, and I'm the guy that played Wolverine in vanilla and Wesker in ultimate because my execution is laughable.
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Jan 29, 2012 01:07
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The Rokstar posted:IMO the Buktooth loop is actually easier. You can make things a bit easier on yourself for the second loop if you only do one (two-hit) M before the first footdive and then only do c.H, S on the ground instead of doing the c.M too. That gives you a hair more hitstun to play with although you still have to hit the guy pretty low in the first loop. Yeah I never do the c.M after landing, I always do the s.H instead and I only let it hit once, sacrificing damage for hitstun so subsequent reps are easier. Keeping it simple is best for me.
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Jan 29, 2012 01:15
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The Rokstar posted:Buktooth loop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yPskuh1yx8 Whoa, thanks for the video. I kept missing the second c.M when I tried and I just thought I wasn't inputting j.M fast enough. Groghammer fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Jan 29, 2012 |
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Jan 29, 2012 01:37
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Chocolate America posted:Thanks for the tips on the Clock loop everyone. I'll try delaying the Ms and doing them as fast as possible and see which one works best. I got the best results from delaying them but I was probably not doing it optimally each time. I'll have to practice the rhythm.
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Jan 29, 2012 01:53
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The Rokstar posted:Buktooth loop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yPskuh1yx8 Is there any way to get a super on the end of this combo?
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Jan 29, 2012 02:26
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PalmTreeFun posted:Is there any way to get a super on the end of this combo? I don't know which one you mean but you can get a super at the end of the Buktooth by airdashing forward after j.fH, then doing j.M into air Photon Array.
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Jan 29, 2012 02:55
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Groghammer posted:I don't know which one you mean but you can get a super at the end of the Buktooth by airdashing forward after j.fH, then doing j.M into air Photon Array. Yeah, Buktooth. Thank you.
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Jan 29, 2012 03:02
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I find doing the footdive pushes them back too far and you don't get many hits on the super, doing MM xx dash forward M super is better IMO.
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Jan 29, 2012 03:03
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TheTofuShop posted:Off of a beam hit you can do ground normals into a rekka string ending in QCF+H, then wavedash forward and otg wit QCB+M xx QCB+L xx QCF+H xx QCF+PP, as long as you have the wallbounce still, you can even combo after Iron Rage by catching them with cr.H B+H xx DP+PP for more damage. It's not the most efficient string, it will work in the corner but at some midscreen distances it is harder to connect with.  Chocolate America posted:I can do the corner loop relatively consistently, even ending with some cool finishers like Sphere Flame XF Sphere Flame, and if I have 3 bars I can actually do almost 1mil with The Chair. I still mess up Buktooth on occasion, so whenever I see them too high up for a c.M or c.H, I just relaunch them immediately with a f.H. If you have to do that you probably won't be able to recover the loop entirely, but it will at least set you up to finish with another air section into super.
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Jan 29, 2012 03:26
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Metrohunter posted:Well they also said that spectator mode was impossible so I've stopped taking Capcom's words on what they can or cannot put into their own games at this point. At this point, I think it's all misdirection. Say "we can't do that", that way people will be really excited when it comes out in the DLC/next version.
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Jan 29, 2012 03:34
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Positively grueling grand finals just wrapped up on Spooky's stream. God drat, Morrigan's nonsense turns the game from a fighter into Ikaruga. Still, lots of great down-to-the-wire play from a lot of folks; hopefully people catch it on archive.
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Jan 29, 2012 08:20
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wesker facerolls an entire team in 10 seconds = fair and balanced, quit crying scrublord morrigan keepaway = holy gently caress, worst character ever capcom can we nerf this boring dumb slut bitch please!! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jan 29, 2012 08:39
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darealkooky posted:wesker facerolls an entire team in 10 seconds = fair and balanced, quit crying scrublord drat, that's quite an edgy opinion you have.
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Jan 29, 2012 08:42
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Metrohunter posted:Well they also said that spectator mode was impossible so I've stopped taking Capcom's words on what they can or cannot put into their own games at this point. Why do people say dumb poo poo like this? Capcom never said it's "literally impossible" to add spectator mode or Frank West or unplanned DLC, people just took phrases like "very difficult" or "nearly impossible" and immediately started crying about it instead of reading between the lines. Game development budgets are not infinite; from now on, if you see something like "Spectator mode couldn't be done," just assume it means: "Spectator mode could theoretically be done in a magical wonderland wherein we have infinite time and money to continue adding modes and features and characters to our hearts' content, until our entire player base is happy. In the real world where release dates are determined by very specific windows and we have limited resources at our disposal, getting Frank West to work and writing additional network code to make Spectator mode feasible lost out to including characters who didn't present technical issues and ensuring that the content that was there was fully functional by our release date." As soon as they had more time and money to work on the game further, they added Frank West and spectator mode. Capcom does some dumb poo poo, but how people come up with these stupid rear end theories about misdirection and the like is beyond me.
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Is this actually worth learning as a replacement for Doom's typical corner combo or is there some reason why it is not practical? I've never seen it in a real match.
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Brosnan posted:As soon as they had more time and money to work on the game further, they added Frank West and spectator mode. Capcom does some dumb poo poo, but how people come up with these stupid rear end theories about misdirection and the like is beyond me. I agree with and endorse this entire post.
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Nate405 posted:Is this actually worth learning as a replacement for Doom's typical corner combo or is there some reason why it is not practical? I've never seen it in a real match. It does about 70-80K more damage than his traditional loop and looks way harder to do. While adding that damage would let him kill a lot more characters fresh, its probably way safer to do the easy as hell current corner loop and go for a reset/chip/lvl 3 (which compared to ending his current loop with lvl 3, the new loop would only kill Nemesis, She-Hulk, Hulk, Haggar, and Tron, which Doom should have no trouble hitting with a single plasma beam sometime before or after he hits the loop) afterwards. If you trust your execution there's basically no reason not to use it though, unless it ends up being character specific.
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Countblanc posted:drat, that's quite an edgy opinion you have. looks like someone hasn't watched a stream in the last month
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Countblanc posted:drat, that's quite an edgy opinion you have. He's right. As a mostly stream watcher, every time wesker pops up I usually turn it off or do something else. It's loving boring and not even fun to watch
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I actually thought those grand finals were a blast to watch and was really impressed by the Morrigan play.
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Jan 29, 2012 13:23
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It got a bit boring 6 games down the line. I only enjoyed it because MarlinPie won in the end.
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Jan 29, 2012 13:30
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Brosnan posted:Why do people say dumb poo poo like this? Capcom never said it's "literally impossible" to add spectator mode or Frank West or unplanned DLC, people just took phrases like "very difficult" or "nearly impossible" http://iplaywinner.com/news/2011/3/5/interview-with-mvc3-producer-ryota-niitsuma-on-why-spectator.html But it's not a huge deal to me since we have it now, I'm just left wondering why the console versions doesn't have replay functionality but the Vita one does. v  v
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Metrohunter posted:But it's not a huge deal to me since we have it now, I'm just left wondering why the console versions doesn't have replay functionality but the Vita one does. v Because it's impossible, of course.
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Jan 29, 2012 20:40
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darealkooky posted:looks like someone hasn't watched a stream in the last month My point was that everyone hates watching wesker as much as they hate watching morrigan, not that he isn't played.
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Jan 29, 2012 20:41
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Metrohunter posted:I don't know, saying that they "couldn't add in a spectator mode" because of technical issues sounds to me like they were saying it was impossible. I'm sure it has to do with Sony buying Vita exclusive features. If there were to be one thing added as DLC I'd like replays with hitbox display.
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Jan 29, 2012 21:11
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People that hate watching Morrigan don't deserve to watch fighting games. I love that Touhou poo poo. It's like the lamest thing I've ever seen and it rules.
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Jan 29, 2012 23:48
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Brosnan posted:I actually thought those grand finals were a blast to watch and was really impressed by the Morrigan play. Totally agreed. Not only do I love it when a zoning team does well, I love seeing how mad people get about zoning. I'm also torn on the outcome too. As much as I would have loved to see ChrisG win just as a troll on the haters, I also have the utmost respect for MarlinPie because of how smart he played and how he eventually figured it out and came back to win. You could actually see his thought processes play out and his play style adapt as the sets went on. It was glorious to watch.
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Anybody have a link to this stream? MarlinPie and ChrisG are some of my favorite guys to watch.
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What I found kind of funny was how quickly and how hard Ammy solar flare shut down Morrigan's shmup game. Pretty much the instant solar flare came out ChrisG went from throwing soul fists to trying to go in.
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The Rokstar posted:What I found kind of funny was how quickly and how hard Ammy solar flare shut down Morrigan's shmup game. Pretty much the instant solar flare came out ChrisG went from throwing soul fists to trying to go in. I found that funny too and I also found it funny that ChrisG didn't think to just spam Hidden Missiles. I'm almost certain they come down too high to get reflected by Solar Flare.
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