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furry drum circle
Aug 7, 2007

Dear... God...

Selane posted:

Honestly the best part of this race is all the scrublords whining in chat about how it's too hard. "omg how do u do dotskip!!!"

To be fair Cosmo did hype this up a lot as a beginner friendly goal, and people are doing brand new any% wr routes and RBA and I'm now watching players 100 times better than me get hosed up by Stalfos after an hour of setup that would have taken me at least three times as long.

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Selane
May 19, 2006

furry drum circle posted:

To be fair Cosmo did hype this up a lot as a beginner friendly goal, and people are doing brand new any% wr routes and RBA and I'm now watching players 100 times better than me get hosed up by Stalfos after an hour of setup that would have taken me at least three times as long.

Oh, that's pretty lame if he did that because it does look really hard. He was probably just doing that to get as many people as possible to sign up.

evilalien
Jul 29, 2005

Knowledge is born from Curiosity.

Selane posted:

Oh, that's pretty lame if he did that because it does look really hard. He was probably just doing that to get as many people as possible to sign up.

That or he is just really out of touch on what constitutes a difficult challenge in this game since he has been running it for so long. Either way this is certainly not beginner friendly.

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

Nah all he said during hype was that the only real trick you need to know is Door of Time skip. Which is still true. The players with more knowledge will do the harder tricks obviously

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


Japan wins! Izu is the first to finish the race. There's also something like 16 people who have forfeited for various reasons.

Spincut
Jan 14, 2008

Oh! OSHA gonna make you serve time!
'Cause you an occupational hazard tonight.
That was pure brilliance to watch. Watching everyone die over and over to the Stalfos was crazy.

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


Oh wow, Japan gets first and second, with sva coming in a couple minutes behind izu.

furry drum circle
Aug 7, 2007

Dear... God...

The Shaman of Cum posted:

Nah all he said during hype was that the only real trick you need to know is Door of Time skip. Which is still true. The players with more knowledge will do the harder tricks obviously

He also specifically said that "doing child dungeons would be a waste of time" and that "it's not a puzzle goal". Without other tricks you would need to get zelda's lullaby and saria's song to get strength in order to move the blocks in forest temple without RBA'ing gauntlets, which is a massive diversion. You'd also have to beat all the child dungeons to get song of time to move a SoT block unless you do a specific giant's knife clip which is normally never done in runs. Many people didn't know this til they got there and 'oh poo poo do I need song of time' was the FAQ of the race chat.

My guess is the point of the goal was to laugh at people getting hosed up by Stalfos as they clod around and not to be fun or engaging for all but the best players. I don't really care because I don't take OoT seriously and it IS pretty entertaining to watch, but it was definitely misleading.

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

oh whoops

canoshiz
Nov 6, 2005

THANK GOD FOR THE SMOKE MACHINE!
I finished 25th, just under the 3 hour mark. I did pretty decent I suppose, though a lot of it was because I was reading the chat where Jiano was posting some solutions. The red goo room, for example, was intended to be done using a bomb jump/damage boost which made it a lot easier. I also realized after doing the standard non-RBA opening that I probably should have set up RBA, essentially forcing me to restart 30 minutes or so into the race. It probably saved a little bit of time in the long run, though. More of that time was spent fumbling around using RBA trying to figure out why bombs wouldn't drop after I had RBA'd the bomb bag. The temple itself went okay though, only died to the Stalfos once. I was missing a key for a really long time but I got it eventually.

I thought the goal was a lot of fun, but I can see how it would be very frustrating for people who don't play the game often. Some people did finish using all natural route, so that was a possibility that worked, though obviously the people who used RBA finished much faster than they did.

katkillad2
Aug 30, 2004

Awake and unreal, off to nowhere
Funkdoc is speedrunning Final Fantasy Mystic Quest! Just started a few minutes ago.

http://www.twitch.tv/srkfunkdoc

Katana_Warrior
Dec 25, 2009

Got in the top 40 and I was a huge fan of the goal. I definitly consider it beginner friendly, because you could pretty much do anything to prepare for the forest temple. For example, I had 4 extra hearts (child dungeons and a few on the way) and two bottles, so the stalfos went down on the second try each time i fought them. As long as you didn't overestimate how well you can fight the stalfos, you would have had a fairly decent experience.

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


Funkdoc's doing runs of Bad Street Brawler right now: http://www.twitch.tv/srkfunkdoc?format=html

Vakal
May 11, 2008
I wonder how many times Siglemic has seen the intro cinematic to Mario 64.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Cosmo is speed running SM64 right now lol.

Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005
And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.
Here is a new TAS of Oracle of Seasons that just came out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSb8J3sghxo

I'm surprised the Gameboy Zeldas aren't really speedrun that much, and hopefully this will help, the same authors are working on Ages too. I'm surprised it's more efficient to skip rings entirely, I would have guessed that manipulating a L-2 Power Ring would have been worth it.

Konstantin fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Jan 28, 2012

canoshiz
Nov 6, 2005

THANK GOD FOR THE SMOKE MACHINE!
Speaking of Zelda TASes, keep your eyes peeled for SwordlessLink's OoT MST TAS coming up very soon... It's already completed and is just awaiting encoding and poo poo which apparently takes a long time with Mupen. The time is 2:04:45. SwordlessLink has been posting WIPs in the Zelda speedrunning IRC channel and they have all been really really cool to watch.

edit: okay apparently it takes a really really long time to encode, we are looking at 1-2 weeks before it's done :ohdear:

canoshiz fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Jan 27, 2012

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Konstantin posted:

Here is a new TAS of Oracle of Seasons that just came out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSb8J3sghx

I'm surprised the Gameboy Zeldas aren't really speedrun that much, and hopefully this will help, the same authors are working on Ages too. I'm surprised it's more efficient to skip rings entirely, I would have guessed that manipulating a L-2 Power Ring would have been worth it.

Bad link, you forgot the "o" on the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSb8J3sghxo

hcreight
Mar 19, 2007

My name is Oliver Queen...
For lack of a better place to put this (not sure it warrants a new thread): the Mario Marathon guys are doing some sort of mini-marathon donation drive kickoff event until noon tomorrow. Thus far they're playing Zelda:Four Swords and screwing around with their new equipment.

http://www.mariomarathon.com/

furry drum circle
Aug 7, 2007

Dear... God...

hcreight posted:

For lack of a better place to put this (not sure it warrants a new thread): the Mario Marathon guys are doing some sort of mini-marathon donation drive kickoff event until noon tomorrow. Thus far they're playing Zelda:Four Swords and screwing around with their new equipment.

http://www.mariomarathon.com/

what the hell is going on here? this is the most confusing stream I've ever seen. Why is the game so tiny? what happens on june 22? why is that man wearing a mining light. Why is shao kahn's giant speech bubble covering the entire gameplay screen. who is the filipino cutout man. what
wh

stay depressed
Sep 30, 2003

by zen death robot
That's not a very nice thing to do.

hcreight
Mar 19, 2007

My name is Oliver Queen...

furry drum circle posted:

what the hell is going on here? this is the most confusing stream I've ever seen. Why is the game so tiny? what happens on june 22? why is that man wearing a mining light. Why is shao kahn's giant speech bubble covering the entire gameplay screen. who is the filipino cutout man. what
wh

They run a Mario Marathon to raise money for Child's Play every June. So far as I can tell they wanted to use tonight to test out new equipment and features for the next marathon, and decided to stream it live, without any set itinerary. So yeah, there's random poo poo happening.

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


Josh the Funkdoc is doing a little Castlevania 3 running tonight: http://www.twitch.tv/srkfunkdoc

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
Another day, another horrific TAS humiliation of Super Mario World.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd5t6Vsucqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ILL-kN7v4

And here's a new Super Demo World TAS that uses these tricks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8FLjZvYl8s

limbohead
Jan 1, 2005
pigeons is rats with magic inside
There is going to be a Super Mario 64 120 star race starting in about an hour and a half, between Siglemic who holds the 120 star world record, and Nero who holds the 70 star record.

Watch it here: http://www.twitch.tv/siglemic/

Webbeh
Dec 13, 2003

IF THIS IS A 'LOST' THREAD I'M PROBABLY WHINING ABOUT
STABBEY THE MEANY

The Kins posted:

Another day, another horrific TAS humiliation of Super Mario World.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd5t6Vsucqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ILL-kN7v4

It's simply incredible how easily they can break the stack now that they've figured out how to overflow it.

furry drum circle
Aug 7, 2007

Dear... God...

limbohead posted:

There is going to be a Super Mario 64 120 star race starting in about an hour and a half, between Siglemic who holds the 120 star world record, and Nero who holds the 70 star record.

Watch it here: http://www.twitch.tv/siglemic/

Hahah, this owns:



(from the twitch.tv blog)

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽
Sig almost had the 70 star yesterday. I think he ad 50:17 only mistake is that on secret slide he missed the jump to the entrance.

I was surprised he didn't rage quite though. He played for a few hours after that.

Also, I never thought I would enjoy watching someone play mario64 so much, but I watch it daily. I just have to turn off chat because that poo poo is terrible.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Harminoff posted:

Sig almost had the 70 star yesterday. I think he ad 50:17 only mistake is that on secret slide he missed the jump to the entrance.

There were plenty of more mistakes. He lost ~8 seconds missing a secret in Tiny Huge Island, then lost ~11 seconds missing a red coin in Tall Tall Mountain having to reclimb and get it. In addition to missing cannonless twice and that silly run into the wall going up the endless staircase (which is becoming it's own meme), there's more than enough that can be improved for a 49:xx time.*


Sig's chat is an exercise in troll recognition and schadenfreude.


*Disclaimer: I'm one of the nerds that edits the Sig tracker Google spreadsheet

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
I cannot stand Sig's chat. Why doesn't he just ban everyone?

scrooger
Feb 26, 2006

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I cannot stand Sig's chat. Why doesn't he just ban everyone?

More people watching means he gets more money from ads.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
How much money do the twitch.tv ads bring in?

And seriously, where did the Sig is a girl meme come from?

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽
drat, I was playing xbox at the time so I missed a bit. I just figured there was less mistakes because of how close the time was.

Also thanks for the spreadsheet, it's pretty awesome.

I think ad revenue is like .002 per person. So if he averages 1500, that is 3 bucks. Four ads an hour and he is making $12/hr to play mario64. Sweet life.


The meme is because of the girl in the mario costume in his profile. People asked if that was him, and the guys in chat ran with it. http://www.twitch.tv/siglemic


edit: http://www.dotallyrad.com/2011/08/twitch-tvs-partner-program-opens-up-time-to-make-six-figures-gaming-2/

That states between .002 and .005 I know the staff at twitch love sig, so I'm guessing he makes closer to the .005 per viewer.

Harminoff fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Feb 5, 2012

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Harminoff posted:

drat, I was playing xbox at the time so I missed a bit. I just figured there was less mistakes because of how close the time was.

Also thanks for the spreadsheet, it's pretty awesome.

I think ad revenue is like .002 per person. So if he averages 1500, that is 3 bucks. Four ads an hour and he is making $12/hr to play mario64. Sweet life.

It's funny how Sig will play like 10 ads in a 3 minute span after each run.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I cannot stand Sig's chat. Why doesn't he just ban everyone?

He's explained that he loves having his chat free (in addition to the ad revenue). He's bitched out mods before for banning too much.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

How much money do the twitch.tv ads bring in?

And seriously, where did the Sig is a girl meme come from?

Broadcasters usually aren't allowed to post ad numbers.

And the sig is a girl thing is a combination of a screenshot of cosmo's(?) stream that's titled "Me and my girlfriend Siglemic", the Japanese Mario cosplayer he uses as his avatar, and him one day just simply saying "im girl" to the trolls in the chat.

Brett824
Mar 30, 2009

I could let these dreamkillers kill my self esteem or use the arrogance as the steam to follow my dream

AnacondaHL posted:

He's explained that he loves having his chat free (in addition to the ad revenue). He's bitched out mods before for banning too much.


Broadcasters usually aren't allowed to post ad numbers.

And the sig is a girl thing is a combination of a screenshot of cosmo's(?) stream that's titled "Me and my girlfriend Siglemic", the Japanese Mario cosplayer he uses as his avatar, and him one day just simply saying "im girl" to the trolls in the chat.

It was Trihex's stream that had "Me and my girlfriend Siglemic" I believe.

katkillad2
Aug 30, 2004

Awake and unreal, off to nowhere
Sig is definitely not shy about hitting the ad button. I actually stopped watching his stream because of it. In 20 minutes he probably hit the ad 4 or 5 times when i was watching a few weeks ago.

piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.



I remember once that when he had a lot of mods and let people get banned he would get flooded with private messages telling him to unban them so he got fed up and stopped caring about chat, like we should.

ntan1
Apr 29, 2009

sempai noticed me
With twitch.tv, you can avoid all advertisements by setting your user agent to a linux machine :).

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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
I always hate the steam delay for other racers. Makes it harder to compare progress.

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