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kreayshawns talent posted:Also lol what is this goony nonsense he follows on twitter? https://twitter.com/Tanukipdx/ It's a food place that doesn't allow kids, which sounds like a good idea to me.
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kreayshawns talent posted:
I really dont think that tweet sounds like animosity, it just sounds like playful ribbing to me.
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platero posted:It's a food place that doesn't allow kids, which sounds like a good idea to me. A food place which retweets @AynRandBot, no thanks.
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kreayshawns talent posted:Did you guys see this subtle jab at Tony Millionaire? https://twitter.com/achewood/status/155077306774331392 Yeah these are two cartoonists who really don't seem like they'd get each other at all. I can't even remember why they started working together. This strikes me as a joke as opposed to a jab.
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Feb 6, 2012 23:07
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I saw this pic / description and totally Achewooded...  Poor little guy
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mysterious frankie posted:Changing the text counts as an update. He's off the hook for the next 20 days. poo poo, Chris; don't make this joke a reality.
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Jerusalem posted:This strikes me as a joke as opposed to a jab. Tony Millionaire helped with nib tricks (alt-text) and did a guest-strip. Jesus, people, read a little less into Words on The Internet. that said, post part three, Chris, goddddddddddddddd. You don't even LIKE sports.
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Onstad is Lucy van Pelt. The time he takes between updates is just to figure out how to trick us more elaborately the next time. I'll just slow down to a stop! I'll give one comic about the comic being gone and disappear! I'll give interviews and then do nothing! I'll put up notices about Achewood restarting! Twice! I'll promise a threefer, put up two, and vanish!
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Cobweb Heart posted:I'll promise a threefer, put up two, and vanish! Makes sense, this feels like the webcomic version of that prank where you release in a college campus three pigs, each numbered 1,2,4.
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Feb 9, 2012 03:02
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I would really really like to buy actual books of Achewood if I could. I am really thinking about getting some really good quality glossy paper, and make my own Achewood "Books" with alt text, for my own personal use.
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Ray's never going to get to count to twelve, dude! Onstad took him down with him like an Egyptian emperor!
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Johnny Aztec posted:I would really really like to buy actual books of Achewood if I could. Well, they're no chronological compendium, but The Great Outdoor Fight, Worst Song, Played On Ugliest Guitar, and A Home For Scared People are all excellent ways to take the edge off of your Achewood thirst. Unfortunately, the straight-forward paper-spine collections, such as this one, don't include the alt text, so DIY is probably your best bet for a satisfying product. Good luck! e: The saddest thing is Achewood's current state of affairs.
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Darthemed posted:Well, they're no chronological compendium, but The Great Outdoor Fight, Worst Song, Played On Ugliest Guitar, and A Home For Scared People are all excellent ways to take the edge off of your Achewood thirst. Unfortunately, the straight-forward paper-spine collections, such as this one, don't include the alt text, so DIY is probably your best bet for a satisfying product. Good luck! Oh hey, for some reason I thought none of the books were still buyable.
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Zefiel posted:Makes sense, this feels like the webcomic version of that prank where you release in a college campus three pigs, each numbered 1,2,4. No, see that's what they EXPECT by now. They quit the search after catching 1,2 and 4 while 3 keeps wreaking havoc. Don't know yet how to transfer this logic to achewood, though.
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Chrieger posted:No, see that's what they EXPECT by now. They quit the search after catching 1,2 and 4 while 3 keeps wreaking havoc. Don't know yet how to transfer this logic to achewood, though. Eventually, they give up and decide to stop looking...  ...Onstad.
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I'm disappointed, since I was expecting this to be a wrap-up and not a continuation. The weirdness is neat, but it doesn't feel worth the wait.
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Pope Guilty posted:Medically speaking, Ray is partying. Man if that is Chris' idea of partying, I really really hope I never get invited to one of them. Also to get back to the pig analogy, It seems like we just found out that there WAS a 3, except it died and has been rotting in a substation for a week.
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Haha, whoever asked about examples of misogyny in Achewood need only read the current update.
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Van Dis posted:Haha, whoever asked about examples of misogyny in Achewood need only read the current update. Yep, this arc is totally convincing me that Onstad believes women cannot do math. That is what we are supposed to take away from this. People with finger molecule communicators live in collapsing houses designing each other, there are electric chair toilets, laser printers with evil whisk attachements, and women can't count to 12. Good catch, mate. Never woulda noticed the creeping, all pervasive misogyny!
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Van Dis posted:Haha, whoever asked about examples of misogyny in Achewood need only read the current update. Did you know that the reason most normal people are not feminists is because they hear about people who think that Achewood is misogynist because of a page like this and think all feminism is as obnoxious as that statement.
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Psycho Serum posted:Yep, this arc is totally convincing me that Onstad believes women cannot do math. That is what we are supposed to take away from this. People with finger molecule communicators live in collapsing houses designing each other, there are electric chair toilets, laser printers with evil whisk attachements, and women can't count to 12. Good catch, mate. Never woulda noticed the creeping, all pervasive misogyny! This, my friends is a put down. But yay, an update I guess?
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SeanBeansShako posted:But yay, an update I guess? Pretty much. It's not all that bad but it would have read better as one in a series of rapid updates, which is what I imagined Onsted planned it as. Instead we're getting drip-fed non-sequiturs. It's not surprising no-one's impressed.
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I think it's kind of weird that this is Achewood. Like, I'm not sure why Ray is a character in this arc, rather than a human or some other new person. It seems like Onstad might be happier doing an offshoot comic if it's mostly going to be creepy surrealism without banter or humor related to pre-established character personalities. But maybe that's coming later. To be fair, I guess Roast Beef was present a few strips ago, it just feels like longer due to time.
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Yeah, I'd pack it in. This isn't Achewood anymore, it's Probe The Depths Of Onstad. Whatever's bothering him is clearly showing in both his work ethic and his output. If you're looking for other good webcomics, I'd recommend: Oglaf, Gunnerkrigg Court, Rice Boy and Order of Tales, PREQUEL, Family Man, and Lackadaisy.
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Psycho Serum posted:Yep, this arc is totally convincing me that Onstad believes women cannot do math. That is what we are supposed to take away from this. People with finger molecule communicators live in collapsing houses designing each other, there are electric chair toilets, laser printers with evil whisk attachements, and women can't count to 12. Good catch, mate. Never woulda noticed the creeping, all pervasive misogyny! ChairMaster posted:Did you know that the reason most normal people are not feminists is because they hear about people who think that Achewood is misogynist because of a page like this and think all feminism is as obnoxious as that statement. Misogyny is more than men slapping women. Having a main character who defaults to misogynist stereotypes is misogynistic, even if it is ironic, because we are supposed to find it funny that Ray has poor opinions of women. What Onstad himself actually believes isn't really relevant, since his comic uses misogynistic humor.
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Van Dis posted:Misogyny is more than men slapping women. Having a main character who defaults to misogynist stereotypes is misogynistic, even if it is ironic, because we are supposed to find it funny that Ray has poor opinions of women. What Onstad himself actually believes isn't really relevant, since his comic uses misogynistic humor. The point is that Ray thinks something dumb. This is not supposed to be a sympathetic statement. You must've HATED Catcher in the Rye.
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Electric Pope posted:The point is that Ray thinks something dumb. This is not supposed to be a sympathetic statement. You must've HATED Catcher in the Rye. The vehicle for humor is a character making misogynistic statements; whether they're lampooned or in earnest doesn't bear at all on the fact that Onstad uses misogyny to construct the Achewood world and characters. Trying to extrapolate that to "Ray thinks something dumb" is pretty bad reading.
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So what do you think of the preceding mounds and mounds of racial caricature that have been nowhere near as small and particular as a wacked-out cat saying "Women can't do math"? I agree with you on Achewood not exactly being a bulwark of progressivist idealism, but there is some value to be placed in being able to laugh at these characters because they're womanizers and misogynists. They're sympathetic grotesques, but grotesques nonetheless. Honestly the race issue bugs me more; the only thing that keeps me from getting heebied out about the sort of stereotypical rap/hip hop patois Ray has is that he's not identifiable as any particular race, being a cat. And on the subject of whether or not the latest comic needs Ray, well. I recall years ago during the GOF book fanfare that Onstad mentioned wanting to turn it into a screenplay (?) with human characters (??) so assuming that wasn't some sly joke, it seems he wanted to move beyond silly animal surrealism at one point. He just... hasn't.
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H.P. Shivcraft posted:Honestly the race issue bugs me more; the only thing that keeps me from getting heebied out about the sort of stereotypical rap/hip hop patois Ray has is that he's not identifiable as any particular race, being a cat. I've said this before in this thread, but I'm 80% sure Ray is supposed to be the cat equivalent of a white dude. He's just ultra-wealthy, and cares a lot about the image he projects. The 20% unsure part is the general fluidity of Achewood's plot and universe. People use that one strip where Téodor makes fun of how Ray talks as evidence that Ray is supposed to be "black", but if you actually read it that way, Téodor comes off as a huge racist rather than a friend mocking Ray's persona. In one strip, Ray uses his French heritage as an excuse about his facial hair. His grandfather being a famous blues musician could go either way. Again, I feel like a nutcase actually analyzing and caring about the race of a character in Achewood, but I guess it is because I would feel kind of weird about some of the humor applied to Ray, were he supposed to be a black character.
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Happy Hippo posted:Jesus Christ, Achewood doing surreal poo poo is not even close to new. Doing surreal unfunny poo poo is pretty novel though.
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