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404GoonNotFound posted:But they adopted, that doesn't answer anything! The elves are like the Arcturians, it doesn't matter.
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And unless he remarries sometime in the future, he's not going to have a mate to go home to, either, given their divorce.
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Wahad posted:And unless he remarries sometime in the future, he's not going to have a mate to go home to, either, given their divorce. I'm kind of reminded of Dwarves from Discworld, honestly. Keeping your gender private seems to be a cultural thing. That, or it's just a complete non-issue.
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Feb 5, 2012 12:24
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S/he has expressed her opinion that it's 'obvious' what gender he is, and that it's unimportant besides. The only person who's ever asked flat out is Belkar, and V finds him a repulsive little goblin.
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Feb 5, 2012 12:30
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I'm pretty sure V's supposed to have been female from the start: See; http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0123.html
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Affi posted:I'm pretty sure V's supposed to have been female from the start: I've always interpreted Vaarsuvius saying "As you wish" there to indicate it's not obvious s/he would be sleeping in Haley's room.
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Not this poo poo again, jesus christ. No, that comic (or a ton of other comics where various characters believe V to be male/female) does not tell us anything about V's actual gender. Can we talk about alignments again, instead? I'm hankerin' for a good old-fashioned alignment slapfight. Like, I think Miko is actually Neutral Evil and Belkar is Lawful Neutral what is everyone's opinions on this???
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Ashenai posted:Not this poo poo again, jesus christ. No, that comic (or a ton of other comics where various characters believe V to be male/female) does not tell us anything about V's actual gender. My opinion is that you are a terrible person.
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I feel your pain, Ashenai, but I never had one of these, can I go just a few posts? Please? Pretty please with sugar on top?  (And hey, still better than playing apologetic vs. those guys from the webcomics thread!) Affi posted:I'm pretty sure V's supposed to have been female from the start: All right - my money, for what it's worth, is on him having been originally intended as male, for two reasons: (1) You don't need to be a classical scholar to associate the -us name ending with males. (2) In #9, Roy calls Vaarsuvius "V-man". That strip was almost certainly written before Rich got the idea of making V's sex a running gag, since (a) there isn't the smallest joke about V and a Girdle of F/M; (b) as soon as the gag started, Roy will be established as not knowing and not holding any definite opinion regarding V's sex (including in the in-universe timeline, via Origin of PCs); (c) it's strip number fuckin' nine.
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Cuchulain posted:V's gender should be the very last thing in the last panel of the comic. If this is a Clue reference, you are now my favorite poster for today.
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Endless Mike posted:Even if they count as gifts, you can only have $500 worth of exempted gifts, I believe. I am not a tax person, but the IRS seems to be saying here that you can received up to $13,000 from someone as a gift in a year. Also that the person giving the gift is the one responsible for any taxes on it.
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Ashcans posted:I am not a tax person, but the IRS seems to be saying here that you can received up to $13,000 from someone as a gift in a year. Also that the person giving the gift is the one responsible for any taxes on it. quote:What is considered a gift?
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Think of it like NPR, you aren't paying 120 for a totebag and best of "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me" cd, it is a gift for donating.
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greatn posted:Think of it like NPR, you aren't paying 120 for a totebag and best of "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me" cd, it is a gift for donating. NPR's a non-profit organization and the donations are tax-deductible. Pretty sure OOTS isn't a 501(3). And if you donate $120 and get a CD in return, you can't deduct the full $120, you can only deduct the $120 minus the value of what you received in return.
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Yeah you're absolutely correct. Tell me why again anyone cares about the tax implications here?
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NihilCredo posted:
That's close but not entirely accurate. I would have to dig up the exact quote from Rich but V's gender became ambiguous after the first 4 or 5 strips. All I remember it was one of the first few strips. It really is impossible to know V's gender.
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Tax code discussion is a lot more interesting the alignment debates, but only slightly.
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greatn posted:Yeah you're absolutely correct. Tell me why again anyone cares about the tax implications here? We're all worried that Rich get busted for tax evasion and that his 15 year prison sentence could have an effect on regular updates.
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He probably has an accountant.
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Rich seems like a smart enough guy to talk to somebody who knows how the hell he's supposed to declare his big heap of money on his tax return for 2012.
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Buffer Overflow posted:We're all worried that Rich get busted for tax evasion and that his 15 year prison sentence could have an effect on regular updates. Eh, they treat that as a white collar crime. He'll have an internet connection.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Eh, they treat that as a white collar crime. He'll have an internet connection. And plenty of spare time.
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Shugojin posted:Rich seems like a smart enough guy to talk to somebody who knows how the hell he's supposed to declare his big heap of money on his tax return for 2012. Next reward level: Accountant & Tax Attorney Of course, he probably already has one since self-employment is a tax minefield
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Cuchulain posted:V's gender should be the very last thing in the last panel of the comic. "Also, I'm bi."
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"How I miss our adopted children!"
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Soonmot posted:If this is a Clue reference, you are now my favorite poster for today. Do you know another movie that ends with that line? 
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Feb 6, 2012 14:42
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New comic! I thought the MOJO broke! http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0833.html
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Literally Sharks posted:
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Colon V posted:Is that a reference to a specific module, or is it just pretty generic "phylactery behind a bazillion traps"? Its clearly a reference to the true villain of the piece, Jirix, and his defeat of the protagonist roaches.
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Well done, Redcloak. I'm sure he expected Xykon to stash the thing somewhere else, which means that he won't notice when the spells Redcloak cast on the fake expire.
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Colon V posted:Is that a reference to a specific module, or is it just pretty generic "phylactery behind a bazillion traps"? Its the setting for the final dungeon. The party will invade it to finally destroy Xykon. We already know the big reveal, though.
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Cuchulain posted:Its the setting for the final dungeon. The party will invade it to finally destroy Xykon. We already know the big reveal, though. 
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On the one side, yay Redcloak! On the other side, 20th-level Order of the Stick taking on their final dungeon in the Astral Plane would have been a cool endgame. e: I guess that just because the phylactery isn't actually there doesn't mean the OotS isn't going to attack it. So there's hope!
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If they go there, in which eventuality Xykon of course will be alerted to it and try to stop them, what will Redcloak do? Go along with Xykon's orders and try to stop them, or tell Xykon that it's not worth it? So... when are we going to see V again? Nenonen fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Feb 6, 2012 |
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Deftly played by Redcloak there (his little victory grin is priceless). Now both he and Xykon have shifted the blame for their respective attempts to power-play each other on to Tsukiko, meaning Xykon doesn't even want her alive again since there's a chance she'd tell Redcloak about how he wanted her to steal the ritual and work it all out for him. It was pretty well-written and organic and it didn't seem like Redcloak's responses were highly dependent on certain reactions he couldn't predict in Xykon, which is something to watch for in any dialogue where a character attempts a deception. I don't think Xykon even suspects Redcloak of alternative motive, that little "...No." of his is clearly more about him wanting to cover up his attempt against Redcloak than any suspiscions of his own. In short, he put Xykon on the defensive so that he was too busy looking for the out that covered his rear end rather than looking for a lie.
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Nenonen posted:If they go there, in which eventuality Xykon of course will be alerted to it and try to stop them, what will Redcloak do? Go along with Xykon's orders and try to stop them, or tell Xykon that it's not worth it? I see it coming into play at the very endgame. Team Evil has been defeated at Kragoor's Gate, Redcloack has been killed by a not so controlled Xykon, and the OotS pursue the lich into his last stronghold. Lots of things happened on this strip. Redcloack is showing some smarts and guts by turning the conversation on Xykon so the he is the one that ends having to explain himself. And what of Jiryx? Is perfectly reasonable that he'll want to kill a demon roach, but could it be indication that he is actually evil? Or at least, evil in a way that Redcloack wouldn't aprove of? I suspect that his respect toward his "Supreme Leader" was only an act until they finally left.
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