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Bean Fried posted:To get this thread away from arguing about Zach Arnold (who is definitely flawed but is still a highly knowledgeable and insightful journalist who has made very meaningful contributions to MMA journalism as a whole), I would like to point out that Bloody Elbow is interviewing Tucker Max on MMA in a five-part series of articles. I feel a deep shame that Tucker Max is training at Relson's school here, especially since I was planning on joining in a few months. I'm actually glad someone posted a BE article for once, these are the things I need to know.
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I don't want to sound like a weirdo about this, but I bet that since most Bloody Elbow readers train martial arts, they will understand what I'm talking about... Tucker Max is an insightful man
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how does he have the name Tucker Max and not be in porn and/or jail for rape
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maffew buildings posted:how does he have the name Tucker Max and not be in porn and/or jail for rape rich parents / law degree
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Feb 9, 2012 04:02
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I can't help but feel somewhat resentful about the fact that I was drinking heavily and training mma before anyone had ever heard of Tucker Max
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fatherdog posted:I can't help but feel somewhat resentful about the fact that I was drinking heavily and training mma before anyone had ever heard of Tucker Max Convince someone at Bloody Elbow you're a semi-famous blogger or a D-List celebrity, and maybe they'll do a five-part interview with you too.
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Feb 9, 2012 04:18
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Bean Fried posted:Convince someone at Bloody Elbow you're a semi-famous blogger or a D-List celebrity, and maybe they'll do a five-part interview with you too. You better check your tone, Tucker Max is perhaps the greatest fiction writer ever for the 18-22 male demographic. Second only to James Frey, maybe.
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Feb 9, 2012 05:22
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Tucker Max should be the name of the protagonist in a frat boy serial novel like "Tucker Max And The Adventure Of The Boner Bender", not some dick I have to read about here
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Feb 9, 2012 05:26
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red19fire posted:You better check your tone, Tucker Max is perhaps the greatest fiction writer ever for the 18-22 male demographic. Second only to James Frey, maybe. Assuming "18-22" refers to IQ, I agree
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Feb 9, 2012 05:27
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red19fire posted:You better check your tone, Tucker Max is perhaps the greatest fiction writer ever for the 18-22 male demographic. Second only to James Frey, maybe. Tucker Max is frat fiction. It's so pathetic that he can become a millionaire by making up stories about girls making GBS threads on his dick.
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Feb 9, 2012 05:27
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Since CTC closed in 2010, it's been hard to get good training in Austin outside of like 2 places. Tucker Max has still managed to train with Kamal and Huerta, whom I still can't locate by gym, and Yves and Kennedy (former CTC members) despite him being in the city a scant few years. I'm guessing he just read up a roster of fighters that local gyms claimed and stamped his name along side it.
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Boregasm posted:Since CTC closed in 2010, it's been hard to get good training in Austin outside of like 2 places. Tucker Max has still managed to train with Kamal and Huerta, whom I still can't locate by gym, and Yves and Kennedy (former CTC members) despite him being in the city a scant few years. I'm guessing he just read up a roster of fighters that local gyms claimed and stamped his name along side it. Either that or he just paid them a shedload of cash. One of his books got optioned for a movie, I'm guessing he's got some bills to spare.
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Feb 9, 2012 06:00
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I don't know a lot about Tucker Max but he was pretty humble in the interviews. He talks about how all the real fighters destroyed him in training but he came away with an appreciation for what hard training teaches you about yourself.
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Boregasm posted:Since CTC closed in 2010, it's been hard to get good training in Austin outside of like 2 places. Tucker Max has still managed to train with Kamal and Huerta, whom I still can't locate by gym, and Yves and Kennedy (former CTC members) despite him being in the city a scant few years. I'm guessing he just read up a roster of fighters that local gyms claimed and stamped his name along side it. Last I heard Huerta and Kamal were training with Phil Cardella at Relson Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. That was a couple years ago, though.
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Phil is in Florida. I haven't seen Kamal nor Huerta in there in a while. Yves is still there all the time though.
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Roger lost to War Machine so I don't think he's training anywhere.
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Ever since Phil moved to Florida there has been, I don't want to call it drama, a lot of people leaving to do their own thing or to go to another camp. So really the only guys who train there consistently that I've seen or heard about are Edwards and Kennedy. Edit: They lost the Muay Thai instructor and a BJJ instructor then added a wrestling coach. Tezcatlipoca fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Feb 9, 2012 |
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Ever since Phil moved to Florida there has been, I don't want to call it drama, a lot of people leaving to do their own thing or to go to another camp. So really the only guys who train there consistently that I've seen or heard about are Edwards and Kennedy. Hm yes, fascinating.
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kreayshawns talent posted:Hm yes, fascinating. I disagree
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Feb 9, 2012 19:39
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This isn't exactly MMA Journalism, but I scanned this review/preview of some UFC game for the Sega Dreamcast back in 2000. The article was written in June 2000 for GameFan magazine.  It doesn't say who the person who wrote the article is because GameFan was a stupid magazine where all the writers used nicknames, but he says Bruce Buffer ran UFC, after Royce Gracie gave up control of it. Also since all of those rules to protect people from getting seriously hurt were put in place, the whole sport turned into a "sissy slap party"
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Feb 13, 2012 04:37
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haha the idea of maurice smith in a video game
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Holland Oats posted:I don't know a lot about Tucker Max but he was pretty humble in the interviews. He talks about how all the real fighters destroyed him in training but he came away with an appreciation for what hard training teaches you about yourself. He's not that bad overall. poo poo he saw a niche market and capitalised. People like to cry about how he's a liar or he's a bad writer or whatever, but it's kind of hard to hate a dude who gave me a few chuckles in highschool and trolled fox news anchors when he was on their show. If he wants to train MMA and talk about how it's fun or he got tooled by pro's who cares? I find it more sad that Fox still doesn't have a proper writer doing some actual breakdowns. Jay Glazer is nothing special but I'd have thought he'd be doing something similar to MMQB on SI (peter king is poo poo) after events. EDIT: I just read the article, all 5 parts. I actually agree with a lot of what he has to say about training and what martial arts can teach you about yourself as a person. I dunno, cry all you like about his career as a writer I think it's a pretty solid article for the most part. BlindSite fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Feb 13, 2012 |
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you just read a five part interview with Tucker Max and wrote a post on the internet saying Tucker Max isn't a total dingus despite his name being Tucker Max
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Feb 13, 2012 06:40
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The guy advocates a lot of what I believe. I used to be a fatty but I changed up my diet to a non-extreme similar paleo type philosophy and started training a mixed program and BJJ and I'm a lot happier in my life, fitter, stronger, healthier and learned a lot about who I am and become overall a better person. It could be any dumb motherfucker famous for any dumb poo poo. But I agree with what he's saying in this area.
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Feb 13, 2012 06:55
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news flash: eating healthy and exercising leads to happy life
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Randy Selvage posted:news flash: eating healthy and exercising leads to happy life 
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BlindSite posted:The guy advocates a lot of what I believe. I used to be a fatty but I changed up my diet to a non-extreme similar paleo type philosophy and started training a mixed program and BJJ and I'm a lot happier in my life, fitter, stronger, healthier and learned a lot about who I am and become overall a better person. you agree with Tucker Max because you're a fat kid
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i'm a fat kid and i still think tucker max is a dummy.
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Randy Selvage posted:news flash: eating healthy and exercising leads to happy life you can leave your "sarcasm" at the doorstep, buddy...as if i'm going to listen to some doctor geek (who's probably still a virgin lol) on how to live my life
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maffew buildings posted:you agree with Tucker Max because you're a fat kid I agree with tucker Max because MMA and and the path it lead me down improved my life significantly. I'm not going to blindly discount what he said in an interview because of how he gained his fame. Haters gon hate.
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Belle Isle Tech posted:It doesn't say who the person who wrote the article is because GameFan was a stupid magazine where all the writers used nicknames, but he says Bruce Buffer ran UFC, after Royce Gracie gave up control of it. Also since all of those rules to protect people from getting seriously hurt were put in place, the whole sport turned into a "sissy slap party" I know some people like this who really do hate UFC ever since they mandated gloves, rules, and rounds. It kind of bugs me. Who honestly complains that they are seeing people not beat themselves into mental deficiency? These are also the people who prefer boxing because they do not have flash KOs.
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the sport actually was a "sissy slap party" before tank abbot and don frye started wearing mma gloves as well as a <10 minute fight followed by >20 minute gas out before rounds were introduced knees on the ground is the only rule that really needs changing
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Kiwi Bigtree posted:I know some people like this who really do hate UFC ever since they mandated gloves, rules, and rounds. It kind of bugs me. Who honestly complains that they are seeing people not beat themselves into mental deficiency? These are also the people who prefer boxing because they do not have flash KOs. It's not like the general brain beatings have gotten any less severe. There's no eye gouging or ball punching. I guess you could argue that lack of knees/kicks on the ground and back of the head strikes took some of the brutality out, but it's still pretty loving raw. More importantly, the fighters are about a million times better. Anyone in the UFC at any weight class in 2012 could easily make Tank Abbot in his prime look like a big sissy baby under any historical MMA ruleset. edit: maybe not leonard garcia, who fights a lot like a tiny tank abbott.
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i also like the game reviewer's complaint that more fighters started focusing on grappling rather than standup after watching grapplers destroy strikers practically every time they were matched up in the early UFC's
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come check out tucker max's new book, A Gentleman's Retelling of a Shitload of Daterape Stories
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Paul Pot posted:the sport actually was a "sissy slap party" before tank abbot and don frye started wearing mma gloves as well as a <10 minute fight followed by >20 minute gas out before rounds were introduced I am ok with knees on the ground being illegal, they could get rather disturbing to watch. On top of that, wrestlers probably don't need another tool to ruin everything.
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MassRayPer posted:I am ok with knees on the ground being illegal, they could get rather disturbing to watch. On top of that, wrestlers probably don't need another tool to ruin everything. i heard that if the rule were changed, it would favour strikers
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mewse posted:i heard that if the rule were changed, it would favour strikers When do strikers end up in top position on a wrestler with a chance to use knees? They can already use them to counter a shot, anything else would work to their disadvantage.
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MassRayPer posted:When do strikers end up in top position on a wrestler with a chance to use knees? They can already use them to counter a shot, anything else would work to their disadvantage. i've just recently become interested in this debate so i don't want to go full internet slapfight, but i could see knees being more effective against the double leg if the person throwing the knee isn't worried that the guy attempting the takedown has his hand on the mat. e: i'm thinking about the knee that nate diaz threw against stun gun when stun gun's hand was on the mat mewse fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Feb 13, 2012 |
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mewse posted:i've just recently become interested in this debate so i don't want to go full internet slapfight, but i could see knees being more effective against the double leg if the person throwing the knee isn't worried that the guy attempting the takedown has his hand on the mat. how does one shoot a double leg with one hand
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