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Dr Hemulen
Jan 25, 2003

Fyrbrand posted:

GW's flickr pool is amazing.



Do you have a link to that (the flickr thing)?

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Fyrbrand
Dec 30, 2002

Grimey Drawer

HardCoil posted:

Do you have a link to that (the flickr thing)?

I didn't save the link to that particular one, sorry. But the GW Flickr pool is here/ Just search for dreadnought there and you'll find it pretty quickly.

Dr Hemulen
Jan 25, 2003

Oh I was looking for the flickr pool link, so thanks :)

Aaanyways, I've been away from this stuff for like... 5 or 6 years, but this thread and starting the Horus series is kinda drawing me back.

Do any of you guys have experience with the true/art/real scale marine conversions? They do make a lot of sense in relation to the fluff, and I really want to make some for playing around with in a homebrew skirmish rule set, not for making an entire army or some other crazy project I'll never finish.

Most of the guides online use the terminator bodies, but they suffer horribly from the deformed hip issue. Has anyone actually tried making marines that could work physiologically (assuming all the astartes stuff from the fluff). I haven't seen them described as having ultra wide hips, and thin legs.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

HardCoil posted:

Oh I was looking for the flickr pool link, so thanks :)

Aaanyways, I've been away from this stuff for like... 5 or 6 years, but this thread and starting the Horus series is kinda drawing me back.

Do any of you guys have experience with the true/art/real scale marine conversions? They do make a lot of sense in relation to the fluff, and I really want to make some for playing around with in a homebrew skirmish rule set, not for making an entire army or some other crazy project I'll never finish.

Most of the guides online use the terminator bodies, but they suffer horribly from the deformed hip issue. Has anyone actually tried making marines that could work physiologically (assuming all the astartes stuff from the fluff). I haven't seen them described as having ultra wide hips, and thin legs.

I think most truescale stuff is a huge amount of work for a miniscule payoff.

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

I personally dislike truescale immensely, so I'm with Dominion on this. Not really worth all the effort.

Dr Hemulen
Jan 25, 2003

Why do you dislike it?

Again, these will not be used for regular 40K, so effort pr. model isn't really relevant. I agree doing them for 40K games isn't a good idea, as the rules don't reflect their size and abilities as described in the novels and fluff. I just want to do a couple as a fun modelling project, and maybe gently caress around with them in a skirmish game.

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

As long as they aren't as big a tanks I wouldn't mind them in a regular brohammer 40k game. I do a lot of conversion on my models, though it usually only leaves them a few millimeters higher than their buddies.

I don't like it because it looks weird to me. Tiny, realistically proportioned versions of dudes that have been heavily stylized for decades just screams "uncanny valley" to me, and it doesn't help that a lot of true-scale conversion aren't really that good. Most of it amounts to making the arms/legs longer, not taking into account the facial features you'd have to completely redo, or how an Astartes helmet would look on a realistic head, so they're usually gigantic or super tiny. Hands are also another facet people always get wrong, and tiny hands freak me the gently caress out, so there's that. Basically it boils down to me not liking realistically proportioned versions of very unrealistic things. I also really like the somewhat-cartoony style GW has going on with their squat little dudes. it's consistent.

Also a few true-scale modellers I've seen (only ever actually met one) were huge douches and were always like "This is how they would look FOR REAL so it's obviously superior to GW inferior modelling". Not saying you're that, but it's just another thing that put me off of true-scale.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

HardCoil posted:

Why do you dislike it?

Again, these will not be used for regular 40K, so effort pr. model isn't really relevant. I agree doing them for 40K games isn't a good idea, as the rules don't reflect their size and abilities as described in the novels and fluff. I just want to do a couple as a fun modelling project, and maybe gently caress around with them in a skirmish game.

I don't like the concept of marines looking like they do in the fluff, being taller than guardsmen, etc. It's just that the vast majority of people who do it on the internet aren't good enough sculptors or artists to make it look not terrible.

Maybe you are, I dunno. And if it's for a display piece then the effort/payoff ratio isn't a problem so go for it.

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Australia cares about cunts. Including this one.

Dominion posted:

I think most truescale stuff is a huge amount of work for a miniscule payoff.

My student worker made up a truescale marine and put it on a 40mm base. The head looks kind of small, but it is pretty cool looking. :shobon:

Dr Hemulen
Jan 25, 2003

I'll give it a shot I think, worst case scenario is that you guys get something to laugh at :)
E: The point is actually just to explore how an enhanced human in power armour could realistically look. They'll probably be paired with infinity figures and other models with more realistic proportions.

Dr Hemulen fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Feb 10, 2012

PaintVagrant
Apr 13, 2007

~ the ultimate driving machine ~
Not many goons do it, but there are tons of tutorials on warseer/dakka/whatever other 40k forum cesspools you feel like jumping into.

When I made some "true scale" dudes I just straightened out one leg by cutting a chunk of the back of knee ribbing out and resculpting it, and then putting a small piece of plasticard between the torso and legs. It made them just a bit more straight postured, which actually made them a lot more imposing imo.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro
Just make an entire army out of the Inquisitor-scale marine.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

The current miniatures are truescale, it's just that Space Marines are horribly deformed monsters.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

Ashcans posted:

The current miniatures are truescale, it's just that Space Marines are horribly deformed monsters.

Yeah, but they're supposed to be 8-foot tall horribly deformed monsters, and instead they are the same height as a random army dude.

Waynebo
May 18, 2004

Look at that subtle off-white coloring.
The tasteful thickness of it.
Oh my god. It even has a watermark.

Dominion posted:

Yeah, but they're supposed to be 8-foot tall horribly deformed monsters, and instead they are the same height as a random army dude.

They should be the height of the Ogres from WFB. That's loving weird though.

Miles O'Brian
May 22, 2006

All we have to lose is our chains
True truescale would be taking the guardsmen and making them smaller. Space Marines are officially in scale already.

Checkmate.

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

poo poo, smaller guardsman = faster painting.

Truetruescale is kinda nice.

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
Space Marines are "only" 7ft tall:



Note that he's floating a foot over the ground for some reason.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


He's not really a foot off the ground, it's just bad perspective. That dark grey is floor. Not that it really matters. :)

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
The soles of his feet are at the 1' mark for no reason.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Oh, you meant the markings, I didn't see that. Yeah, that's odd.

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?
Welp problem solved; Soak clogged nozzle in a cup of nail polish remover for an hour > All clean and sprays like a dream.

However when spraying the primer it did get a bit cloudy. I don't have much space in my apartment so my spray box is pretty much a big taped together cardboard box, and I have some simple dust masks for protection, what kind of respirators should I be looking at so I don't end up with an iron lung?

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

As long as it's relevant to painting/sculpting, are we cool on posting "concept art" here? I want to do another sculpt, to make a dude as a stand-in for Marbo that matches my army's theme. Like a ninja-nomad sort of dude, but I want goon feedback before I go in and make something balls-to-the-walls stupid.

I only want mildly stupid, here.

boxcarhobo
Jun 23, 2005

I guess this is relevant to painting so I'll ask it here,

Is there any way to get most if not all of the p3 paints in a large bundle deal? I don't see anything on the PP site, and the only other one I can find is the battlefoam kit that is $450.

Miles O'Brian
May 22, 2006

All we have to lose is our chains
PV, which paint did you use to get the sick jade green on your Skorne? Decided to steer clear of purple DE after all and go with black/jade.

Can you repost the Skorne whilst you're at it? :v:

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

boxcarhobo posted:

I guess this is relevant to painting so I'll ask it here,

Is there any way to get most if not all of the p3 paints in a large bundle deal? I don't see anything on the PP site, and the only other one I can find is the battlefoam kit that is $450.

They do sets of 6 paints for each of the warmahordes armies, I think that might be the best you're gonna do.

PaintVagrant
Apr 13, 2007

~ the ultimate driving machine ~

Miles O'Brian posted:

PV, which paint did you use to get the sick jade green on your Skorne? Decided to steer clear of purple DE after all and go with black/jade.

Can you repost the Skorne whilst you're at it? :v:

VGC scurf green. Dont have image links to the pics, they are all imgur. This thread has em all tho

http://www.focusandfury.com/forum/index.php?topic=2547.0

Miles O'Brian
May 22, 2006

All we have to lose is our chains
Sweet. Thanks. How did you get the cold gold, whilst we're at it? :v:

I may have asked this before and forgotten.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Dominion posted:

Yeah, but they're supposed to be 8-foot tall horribly deformed monsters, and instead they are the same height as a random army dude.

This has changed a lot over time. The old beakies are about a head shorter than current marines as I recall, and the original all-metal Imperial Army sculpts are have hilariously weird proportions. Old monsters are even worse - the original Great Unclean One model is about as tall as a current Terminator.

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

Fuegan posted:

So for this battalion challenge I'm taking part in I have to convert a general for my army using only pieces from the box and also representing any magic items they might have. This is my attempt at a Slaughtermaster with Hellheart and Greedy Fist! The apron is made from a modified Ogre banner, while the Hellheart is a spare section of arm with a bit of green stuff to tidy up. I added the chef's hat and massive cheeks and double chin just to give him some more character.



Also it's hard to make out in this photo but I painted the veins on the heart in a deep purple. The only bit I want to work on some more is the shading on the apron's overhang but it's past 3am and I can't be bothered right now.

Totally diggin' this dude.

stabbington posted:

Blasted out a Shepherd today, static grass obviously going on post-sealant.


Fantastic color choices. I like how you went with bold colors, but desaturated everything so that it looks natural. A+

Fyrbrand posted:

My most recent painting:






Mantis Warriors Rhino I painted for a broham. In total I'll be doing ~12 Rhino chassis vehicles for him. He's doing the MW logo with a custom decal, to be added to the side hatch.

TURTLE POWER

WhiteOutMouse
Jul 29, 2010

:wom: will blow your mind.

Fix posted:

Pretty sure he was using it as a hedge to keep people who outscored him from picking your paint job before he could. I do believe we've got a hardware-assisted turbo-edition pizza hat due.
Holy poo poo! I forgot about this!

Good thing we saved my medical halo for this specific purpose! I was looking into places that would take used-specialty medical equipment for needy countries/people but I don't think they exist.

Also, that loving halo is an archaic piece of poo poo. I laid in bed (45 deg angle) and did nothing for 3.5 months and still had three out of the four bolts break though my skull and had to be replaced. One of the holes also got a staff infection, despite daily mother-TLC-quality iodine/peroxide cleanings. I couldn't imagine a poor or third world individual getting that kind of equipment 2nd hand, the amount of specialists and literal tuneups would not be available and without such support might end up doing more harm than good; though they don't deserve to just die.

Long derail short, if anyone has a clue who I should contact about this (after pizza hat & cleaning)let me know, jrs06w @ yahoo.com





:pcgaming:Now! For some first-world toys!!!:pcgaming:
Anyone want a lovely cellphone picture of a chaos unit of Death Cult Assassins with Crusader bodyguard?

I love the way the "warriors of chaos" look. and since I don't need to rank up I can turn the hands and heads to make much more dynamic poses.

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

WhiteOutMouse posted:

:pcgaming:Now! For some first-world toys!!!:pcgaming:
Anyone want a lovely cellphone picture of a chaos unit of Death Cult Assassins with Crusader bodyguard?

I love the way the "warriors of chaos" look. and since I don't need to rank up I can turn the hands and heads to make much more dynamic poses.

Thanks for making me wish I did a cultist/Coteaz/Culteaz list.

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

The best part about the GK codex is how it's infinitely more interesting as anything other than a GK codex

Red Robin Hood
Jun 24, 2008


Buglord

S.J. posted:

The best part about the GK codex is how it's infinitely more interesting as anything other than a GK codex

What? :psyduck:

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Red Robin Hood posted:

What? :psyduck:

Isn't the above a counts-as grey knights thing?

Hixson
Mar 27, 2009

First time I've actually put any effort into painting aything. They still need basing, and the helmet lenses need painted. Otherwise I'm pretty proud of them.

Tear my hard work apart!



rest here -
http://imgur.com/a/NWGRq#2N40q

Hixson fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Feb 11, 2012

Red Robin Hood
Jun 24, 2008


Buglord

S.J. posted:

Isn't the above a counts-as grey knights thing?

Okay... your previous statement makes a lot more sense now. Sorry I was confused!

Sole.Sushi
Feb 19, 2008

Seaweed!? Get the fuck out!

Hixson posted:

Tear my hard work apart!

You already said it, but base your poo poo!

Though honestly, for some reason I think for your color scheme the flat black base thing actually works in your favor. Still though, it'd be an injustice to your models and your talent to leave them on all together blank bases; maybe do something flat-ish and dark, like a tile mosaic or some-such.

EDIT: Also, is the Oath Thread tearing up people's bandwidth or is it just me? :(

Red Robin Hood
Jun 24, 2008


Buglord

Sole.Sushi posted:

EDIT: Also, is the Oath Thread tearing up people's bandwidth or is it just me? :(

I didn't even know people still cared about bandwidth... what poo poo service do you have?!

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Sole.Sushi
Feb 19, 2008

Seaweed!? Get the fuck out!

Red Robin Hood posted:

I didn't even know people still cared about bandwidth... what poo poo service do you have?!

Maybe I'm using the wrong term, allow me to elaborate:
The Oath Thread for the last couple of pages causes my web-browsing to slow down to a pace a snail would laugh at. Just that thread. No other websites or threads in the forums.

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