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apparently hutts are hermaphrodites and swell up when they're pregnant. e. this is the most EUist top of the page post. 
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Feb 9, 2012 19:10
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Dave Syndrome posted:I was pretty sure they used the Episode I CGI model (slightly retextured) for the Episode 4 scene, so there shouldn't really be a weight difference. Really? Guess I was thinking of the one from 1997 because in my mind Jabba was pretty drat thin.
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Feb 10, 2012 06:09
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Decius posted:I also like the battle on Naboo itself, the Jar-Jar antics aside. The problem is rather Jar-Jar, who is simply annoying the Gungans, the Jedi and the audience. The most memorable things about the Naboo battle to me are the music when the droid army takes position and a scene where one of the shield generators that is mounted on random dinosaurs explodes, and the dinosaur is just standing there, not giving a gently caress. I liked the music, but the reaction of the dinosaur to the shield generator on his back being blown up was pretty much my reaction to the entire scene.
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Feb 10, 2012 16:43
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Paragon8 posted:apparently hutts are hermaphrodites and swell up when they're pregnant. So Jabba was pregnant when Leia killed him?! 
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Feb 10, 2012 18:11
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Pththya-lyi posted:So Jabba was pregnant when Leia killed him?! Just as well really, considering how retarded Zorba acted in those Jedi Prince books things would have just gotten worse from there.
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Feb 10, 2012 18:17
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Guys, we can all rest easy now. It has now been clarified: Greedo always shot first.George Lucas posted:The controversy over who shot first, Greedo or Han Solo, in Episode IV, what I did was try to clean up the confusion, but obviously it upset people because they wanted Solo to be a cold-blooded killer, but he actually isn’t. It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that Greedo is the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Han shot first, because they wanted to think that he actually just gunned him down. I don't know what I feel more: anger that Lucas is now resorting to blatant lying to justify his changes, or humor that his explanation is literally, "Greedo always shot first but I didn't have the technology to realize my vision until the special editions." Another choice quote: George Lucas posted:If you look at Blade Runner, it’s been cut sixteen ways from Sunday and there are all kinds of different versions of it. Star Wars, there’s basically one version — it just keeps getting improved a little bit as we move forward.
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Feb 10, 2012 21:25
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Saw that on Gizmodo earlier  This fucker shouldn't be allowed anywhere near his creation. He doesn't understand the charm of it in its original form. Nothing's being improved by adding terrible, out of place CGI to replace the awesome practical effects that were there in the first place.
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Feb 10, 2012 21:38
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the weird thing is that there is a huge consensus that The Final Cut of Blade Runner is the best by far, and only made improvements to the material, instead of huge terrible changes. who really suggests any of the other cuts to a new viewer?
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Feb 10, 2012 21:55
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alg posted:the weird thing is that there is a huge consensus that The Final Cut of Blade Runner is the best by far, and only made improvements to the material, instead of huge terrible changes. There's actually some legitimate disagreement in how the different cuts try to cut the divide between the debate over whether or not Deckard is a replicant. Nothing to the same level of "not getting it" as the changes to the OT and the entirety of the PT themselves demonstrate, of course.
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Feb 10, 2012 22:11
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Instead of seeing The Phantom Menace 3D in theaters tonight for opening night, I re-watched Plinkett's review of the movie on Red Letter Media. It really reinforces how much I absolutely hate this movie for not even achieving half of what it could have been, and how I have zero desire to ever watch it again.
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Feb 11, 2012 04:11
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Is the Plinkett TPM commentary track worth listening to?
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Feb 11, 2012 04:32
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Instead of seeing The Phantom Menace 3D in theaters tonight for opening night, I re-watched Plinkett's review of the movie on Red Letter Media. It really reinforces how much I absolutely hate this movie for not even achieving half of what it could have been, and how I have zero desire to ever watch it again. A few years ago a few friends and I decided to rewatch Phantom Menace for shits and giggles. When it started I got kind of caught up in nostalgia for the pre-TPM hype. And for the first 15 minutes, it was fine, and I started to think maybe it wasn't as bad as I remembered. Then literally the second Jar Jar showed up on screen, I lost all interest. One thing that really struck me is how badly the podracing scene fared. I don't know if the effects are just really dated now, or if it was really just a lot more thrilling back in 1999, but I remember when I saw it in theaters, I thought it was at least one cool part. And I remember a lot of reviewers at the time talking about how great the podracing segment was. But in that rewatch, all I could think of was how tedious and dragging it was.
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Feb 11, 2012 04:46
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Saw it tonight with a goonette friend of mine, plenty of snide remarks throughout. At one point we thought we were watching a comedy, since we already knew when all the "wacky" parts were coming, particularly with Jar Jar. Still a fun ride though. And does anyone else feel like there were twice as many podracing scenes added? I feel like they gave screen time to every single podracer when I don't think they did in the original. Also there's a part where Anakin's pod gets disconnected from his starboard engine and he's spinning around and has to use a claw thingy to reconnect...or was that in the original and I don't remember it?
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Feb 11, 2012 09:37
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Saw it tonight with a goonette friend of mine, plenty of snide remarks throughout. At one point we thought we were watching a comedy, since we already knew when all the "wacky" parts were coming, particularly with Jar Jar. The extended podrace scenes have been in there since the dvd release, but weren't in the original or vhs release.
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Feb 11, 2012 11:06
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alg posted:the weird thing is that there is a huge consensus that The Final Cut of Blade Runner is the best by far, and only made improvements to the material, instead of huge terrible changes. I've only ever seen Blade Runner once in my life, so I'm really not the expert, but if I'm not mistaken one of the huge differences is that the original version (and several in between) are freely available on various box sets.
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Feb 11, 2012 11:59
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Suenteus Po posted:Is the Plinkett TPM commentary track worth listening to? It's not a commentary track, more sort of a video rant or a very weird kind of documentary. And yes, a thousand times yes. Force yourself through the first five minutes to get used to the voice, the purposely crappy editing and over the hurdle of the "I'm a creepy old man who chains up hookers in his basement and killed his wife" persona shtick, and there's a real wealth of revelations in there by a guy who obviously knows his stuff about movies.
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Feb 11, 2012 12:03
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alg posted:the weird thing is that there is a huge consensus that The Final Cut of Blade Runner is the best by far, and only made improvements to the material, instead of huge terrible changes. This argument works in favor of Lucas though, because he is fully convinced that the next batch of changes will turn the Special Edition movies into the beautiful butterflies he always intended them to be, and then finally people will understand and agree that this is the best version like they did with Blade Runner.
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Feb 11, 2012 12:04
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Grendels Dad posted:This argument works in favor of Lucas though, because he is fully convinced that the next batch of changes will turn the Special Edition movies into the beautiful butterflies he always intended them to be, and then finally people will understand and agree that this is the best version like they did with Blade Runner. There is, however, a small group with the opinion that having the film show that Deckard is a replicant undermines most of the themes established throughout. For those people it is possible to quite easily obtain the original cut and watch that - they're not forced to hook up an ancient VCR and watch tapes released in 1996 or track down a laserdisc edition and a working player just to watch the version they prefer. Even if people do wind up preferring the Star Wars: Global Hyperfighting Edition EX or whatever it gets called, not making the originals available is some combination of arrogance, stubbornness and rank stupidity on Lucas' part.
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Feb 11, 2012 12:13
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The best fix for the prequels would be just to make Naboo into Alderaan.
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Feb 11, 2012 14:06
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Paragon8 posted:The best fix for the prequels would be just to make Naboo into Alderaan. With the rest of the plot remaining unchanged? I really don't see how that would fix anything.
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Feb 11, 2012 14:07
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Dave Syndrome posted:It's not a commentary track, more sort of a video rant or a very weird kind of documentary. I was asking about the new one, which is definitely a commentary track.
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Feb 11, 2012 14:28
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Suenteus Po posted:I was asking about the new one, which is definitely a commentary track. My bad, but thanks for bringing this to my attention! I didn't know he had a new one.
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Feb 11, 2012 14:38
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draize_train posted:With the rest of the plot remaining unchanged? I really don't see how that would fix anything. It just adds a better sense of context. It doesn't automatically make them better movies. They're terrible but it does fix some things. For people seeing 4-6, having Naboo be Alderaan immediately gives it some weight and ties back into the narrative of the original trilogy rather than just being a coy reference that Lucas otherwise went for. It makes the narrow plot of the Trade Federation squeezing a planet out better because it introduces us to a planet we all know about but has little backstory. For people new to star wars, it gives them emotional weight in episode 4 when they see a planet that they have spent a trilogy involved with being blown up. It also just fixes up some things like it makes more sense for Leia to go to a family on the same planet her mom is from rather than just a random senator from a planet we'd not had mentioned until then. Finally it means all the Gunguns die. Obviously it's not going to fix everything or really that much, but it is such a simple thing that I have no idea why Lucas didn't go with it to begin with.
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Feb 11, 2012 14:58
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Chairman Capone posted:Guys, we can all rest easy now. It has now been clarified: Greedo always shot first. Sweet Space Jesus, this is 'Bagdad Bob' level of denying the historical record.
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Feb 11, 2012 15:55
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Paragon8 posted:Finally it means all the Gunguns die. For you SWTOR fans, how much better would it be if not only was Naboo actually Alderaan, but we can replace gungans with House Thule?
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Feb 11, 2012 20:11
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Suenteus Po posted:I was asking about the new one, which is definitely a commentary track. Yes it is. It's sort of a weird hybrid between a Plinkett review and a riff track. He does go on bizarre tangents and sometimes the review goes quiet, but it's very funny. I got more than $1.99 worth of entertainment out of it.
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Feb 11, 2012 21:51
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Man, those movie journalists are so soft, you know, no bite or anyth...The Toronto Star posted:Star Wars: The Phantom Menace 3-D review: A sucker is reborn every minute ...  Well, that's one one way to put it. What do you think about that now, George? Was it worth it? Do you feel you got your artistic vision across?
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Feb 12, 2012 08:37
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Paragon8 posted:For people new to star wars, it gives them emotional weight in episode 4 when they see a planet that they have spent a trilogy involved with being blown up. These two cancel each other out.
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Feb 12, 2012 09:49
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Cross-posting from the comic megathread. I like the little AT-AT pilot helmet in the corner.
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Feb 12, 2012 20:08
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I managed to get a free ticket to the Phantom Menace thanks to a friend, and saw it at 4:15 yesterday afternoon. The theater was a little over 1/3 full (MAYBE approaching 1/2, but everybody was spread out) and I'd say it was 90% parents there with kids under the age of 10. I only went because it was free, and it still wasn't really worth it. The 3D depth in some scenes was admittedly pretty neat, and I'm actually looking forward to being able to see the OT on the big screen again (not particularly happy about the circumstances, but oh well), but walking out of the building I felt like I had entered a time machine just to remind myself what it was like to have George Lucas punch 13 year old me in the balls all over again. Edit: Is there some new post-credits thing added to this version? I read something earlier that made it sound like there's something other than the sound of Vader breathing like in the original release. I left almost as soon as it ended so I didn't stay for the entire credit sequence. Arschlochkind fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Feb 13, 2012 |
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Feb 12, 2012 21:54
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Ouch... After hearing how the Vow and Safe House were going to dominate, I figured based on Friday's performance that TPM 3D would still be third, so they could start the whole, "See the #1 3D MOVIE in America!" adverts. But thanks to Journey 2 beating it out, it can't even do that. Maybe they'll do, "See the #1 STAR WARS MOVIE IN 3D in America!", instead. Technically, that's not a lie.
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Feb 13, 2012 00:27
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Journey 2 beat TPM? 
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Feb 13, 2012 01:16
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Suenteus Po posted:I was asking about the new one, which is definitely a commentary track. I wish I'd known about it before I went to the movie theater.  Oh well, at least it was an okay movie date.
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Feb 13, 2012 13:35
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I saw a free industry screening of TPM3D last week. It hurt my brain so much I spent most of the second half of the movie mentally planning this 'shop: http://imgur.com/nXBRh Fool me once, Lucas...
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Feb 13, 2012 13:51
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megapuppy posted:I saw a free industry screening of TPM3D last week. It hurt my brain so much I spent most of the second half of the movie mentally planning this 'shop: http://imgur.com/nXBRh drat, I had erased what Gungans look like from my brain but gently caress, that poster makes me angry and sad again. My Star Wars
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Feb 13, 2012 17:16
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I just saw this on Tumblr. I'm so sorry you had to see that.
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Feb 17, 2012 04:03
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That makes no sense. How would she have learned to forceghost?
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Feb 17, 2012 08:40
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I like the look of mild annoyance on her face myself. Lady your son started a career as Space Himmler with killing a bunch of kids, betraying his friends and buddying up with Space Hitler.
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Feb 17, 2012 16:31
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You know, I've been ruminating lately that Star Wars needs to be more terrible. I'm not sure why I feel this way. Maybe it's because I'd rather see the franchise put out of its misery than continue to watch it wallow like an 800 lb leperous gorilla in the room. Bring Back Karen Traviss! 
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Despite their avowed liking of Karen Traviss's poo poo and ... SWTOR's storytelling ... I do heartily agree with their core assertion here: http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/hope-springs-eternal-4th-panel Sith-of-the-Week is still worse. And Darth Andeddu has been there since near the very beginning of the modern EU.
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