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xenilk posted:I feel your pain, that happened to me when I did a shoot at -22F and felt bad for the model and screwed up royally. I think you did far better than what I did. The scenery is awesome and they do seem into it. You're being harsh on yourself, which is good but you deserve a tap on the back for your good work Yeah, it's been like +10 in Calgary all winter so of course the weekend they came down and we did this shoot, it was -22C or something. I did feel pretty rushed because of the cold, and my sister and her boyfriend were there too and I was too concerned about everyone being bored and stuff. I always say "take your time next time" and I always end up feeling rushed. Grrr.. Just keep practicing I guess. I think the major saving grace of these is the scenery, for sure. It's so gorgeous out there, and I tried to incorporate it into as many photos as I could while still maintaining a more intimate feel. Unfortunately it was snowing, windy, super overcast so everything was just white or gray, but eh, could have been worse I suppose! I like your suggestions on posing...the first shoot I did with them in the summer tended to go more that way. They just kind of did their own thing and it turned out feeling much more candid and intimate. Unfortunately it was like 2 months after I got my camera so the composition/focus/anything technical is just garbage. I am shooting some of their wedding photos so hopefully I can combine the two sessions into one super awesome session!
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CarrotFlowers posted:I like your suggestions on posing...the first shoot I did with them in the summer tended to go more that way. They just kind of did their own thing and it turned out feeling much more candid and intimate. Unfortunately it was like 2 months after I got my camera so the composition/focus/anything technical is just garbage. I am shooting some of their wedding photos so hopefully I can combine the two sessions into one super awesome session! Do it again like that and you'll see how you've progressed  And for people I don't really know I found that going for a coffee beforehand makes a nice difference when I shoot them. But I guess it's a bit harder on us guys because I mostly do that to be like "See, I'm no creep." which helps when it comes to shooting.Edit: A personnal favorite  IMG_7645 by avoyer, on Flickr xenilk fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Feb 8, 2012 |
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xenilk posted:Do it again like that and you'll see how you've progressed I go for coffee with models/clients, and they rarely call me back, or rip off the ideas we discuss. Does this mean I'm a creep?
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red19fire posted:I go for coffee with models/clients, and they rarely call me back, or rip off the ideas we discuss. Does this mean I'm a creep? I don't talk about my ideas over coffee just overall vibe of the shoot/how to dress/make up. I'd be curious as to why they don't call you back tho, do you go over rates before meeting them?
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A couple of cosplay shots which I took recently.  Kami Sama no Memo-chou: Alice by CorneliusK, on Flickr  Kami Sama no Memo-chou: Alice by CorneliusK, on Flickr We were very tired by the time we took these shots, didn't turn out as nice as we hoped but the basic idea was there.
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red19fire posted:I go for coffee with models/clients, and they rarely call me back, or rip off the ideas we discuss. Does this mean I'm a creep? Are you using Model Mayhem?
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Gazmachine posted:Are you using Model Mayhem? ...yes.  They contact me to shoot their portfolios, we meet up to plan, then I never hear from them again.
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red19fire posted:...yes. Yeah that might be (and probably is) the problem, MM is flaky as hell. I go with friends/people in agencies/contacts that are studying in fashion school. Another way that works is asking people blatantly, if you have somewhat of a portfolio to back you up it's pretty easy to pull off people that way.
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Whenever I feel discouraged by trying to shoot with agencies I'll check out model mayhem to cheer myself up immensely. Obviously there are some good people there but you have to do a lot of legwork. It's weird that someone would commit to meeting up for coffee but then not show up to a shoot. Do they give off a weird vibe at all?
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I got bored of Model Mayhem really quickly after some girl chatted ideas with me and then promptly went elsewhere to try said idea out. Poorly. Can't be hosed with time wasters.
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Gazmachine posted:I got bored of Model Mayhem really quickly after some girl chatted ideas with me and then promptly went elsewhere to try said idea out. Poorly. Can't be hosed with time wasters. haha, the best is now I'm getting model mayhem people who have ignored my messages trying to chase me down for shoots. Yeah, I really think I'm going to give my time to someone who didn't have the courtesy to even say "no thanks"
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Paragon8 posted:haha, the best is now I'm getting model mayhem people who have ignored my messages trying to chase me down for shoots. Yeah, I really think I'm going to give my time to someone who didn't have the courtesy to even say "no thanks" What's your MM url? People must go crazy over your stuff.
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I haven't updated it in a while but http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/733482/ London is surprisingly terrible, I suppose it's that anyone worth anything is already agency repped.
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Paragon8 posted:I haven't updated it in a while but http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/733482/ You assist Lara Jada? Very cool. I remember when I was a teenager and all she was doing was self portrait.
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xenilk posted:You assist Lara Jada? Very cool. I remember when I was a teenager and all she was doing was self portrait. hah, yeah. I've assisted a bunch of other people now though so that's fairly out of date. I normally only take paid assisting work now so I don't work with Lare too much now
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Paragon8 posted:haha, the best is now I'm getting model mayhem people who have ignored my messages trying to chase me down for shoots. Yeah, I really think I'm going to give my time to someone who didn't have the courtesy to even say "no thanks" Teehee - excellent.
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I'm looking to move to London in the Fall... I hope I can manage to find some good people to work with when I arrive. It sounds pretty iffy. :/
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McMadCow posted:I'm looking to move to London in the Fall... I hope I can manage to find some good people to work with when I arrive. It sounds pretty iffy. :/ I think you should do pretty well, there's a pretty big alt scene and I think those girls are always willing to shoot with a competent photographer. Let me know when you're over here and I can point you towards some people!
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Gazmachine posted:I got bored of Model Mayhem really quickly after some girl chatted ideas with me and then promptly went elsewhere to try said idea out. Poorly. Can't be hosed with time wasters. Yes, this is what happens to me. They even offer to pay me to shoot them! Meet up, discuss overall ideas, looks, locations, then never hear from them again. I'm willing to bet they've gotten a GWC to shoot exactly what we discussed. Granted, I've worked with several models who have been professional and great, but the majority of MM is "I created a profile, now I'm a pro on par with Giselle/Klinko." I basically need to build a better portfolio and move to a higher stratosphere. I was actually turned down for a job shooting for a modeling company because I'm "overqualified" and would want to be paid; instead they want an "intern" that will work for hours on end (12 models, 6 looks each) for free. So it's probably for the best. Anyway, enough  , hot off the press:  
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 IMG_3245 by Breanne Unger, on Flickr  IMG_3218 by Breanne Unger, on Flickr Boyfriend needed new photos for the company website. I like the expression in the second one best, but the lighting is a little flat. That being said, the right side of his face in the first one is too dark, I think. Good thing I bought a reflector so that I can forget to use it!
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red19fire posted:I basically need to build a better portfolio and move to a higher stratosphere. I was actually turned down for a job shooting for a modeling company because I'm "overqualified" and would want to be paid; instead they want an "intern" that will work for hours on end (12 models, 6 looks each) for free. So it's probably for the best. That's exactly what I did for the first three days of this week and, man, I feel sorry for the poor sap who does that for free, because it's a long day. As for building a portfolio - just shoot everyone who is willing to be shot, post on here, get crit, shoot some more!
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Carrotflowers, I think your light source is a bit high. You're getting shadows in your subject's eye sockets. You really don't want that for this type of headshot.
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red19fire posted:Pull back a little, really tight CUs are nice and easy and all but a wider shot can convey so much more about the subject.  Demi-2 by TimFPictures, on Flickr Additionally, try some location work, reflected natural light is so much kinder on people (most of the time) than artificial light. On that note: How's my traditional portraiture? An actor wanted some headshots done, excuse the frizzy hair, the humidity was thick enough to cut. Second image was more of a candid that I sent along anyway.    I so rarely shoot normalcy that I have to admit lacking the crutch of some ridiculously flashy subject matter was a tad hard. XTimmy fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Feb 9, 2012 |
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Mathturbator posted:I don't think the light is flat at all, but on my monitor you've lost all detail in the jacket it's just a glob of black. But maybe it's just my monitor. I like the lighting, very clean. drat, that's what I was trying to avoid. It looks okay on mine but I've had issues with my monitor before. I'll try to check it out on a different one. McMadCow posted:Carrotflowers, I think your light source is a bit high. You're getting shadows in your subject's eye sockets. You really don't want that for this type of headshot. Yeah I see what you mean. I don't know why I always put my light source so high. I'll try it again this weekend. Thanks for the input, guys. Always appreciated!
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It's 90% there but I think that the 2nd photo would benefit greatly from moving the light source a little lower, slightly more frontal, and consider bouncing some light back into his face. His left eye is nearly all a big blob of shadow in the first photo and better in the 2nd. Overall I think the shadows are too dark and as mentioned previously, my monitor displays his jacket, 3/4 of his hair and some of his eyes as a big black blob. Your highlights look good and nothing seems to be blown out but if you lighten those shadows a bit everything else will feel a little less harsh.
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Just for the record Carrotflowers, I can see some detail in that jacket. It's not as much of a glob of black on my monitor. Could probably do with being slightly lighter, though. Shot from yesterday which I thought was nice, although it's more to do with the hair and make up / accessories than my input:  Today's editorial was a disaster and I'd rather not talk about it.
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Gazmachine posted:Today's editorial was a disaster and I'd rather not talk about it. Why do we fall, master bruce? so we can learn to pick ourselves up. A good way to look at a bad shoot is that you tend to learn more from them than the good ones.
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Paragon8 posted:Why do we fall, master bruce? so we can learn to pick ourselves up. Thank you, and yes, you're right - I did learn some really important things from it: mainly that I should spend 20% of the interview time getting interview shots and 80% of the interview time looking for locations that look visually interesting. It's not a jolly and no matter how much I want to listen to the interview, I have a job to do. They're not that awful now I've stopped being an insufferable artist and told myself "dude - it's a 60-odd year old businessman in a tiny office with 5 to 10 minutes to work with - what did you expect to get?" - they're just not very interesting at all. *shrug*
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Gazmachine posted:Thank you, and yes, you're right - I did learn some really important things from it: mainly that I should spend 20% of the interview time getting interview shots and 80% of the interview time looking for locations that look visually interesting. It's not a jolly and no matter how much I want to listen to the interview, I have a job to do. Look at it this way - you probably took the best photograph of that guy that has ever been taken.
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I wasn't going to post anything from it but I thought I'd put up the headshot, because I realised that not feeling like posting a shot means I should probably definitely post it, if you see what I mean? This isn't Flickr, after all - well, I'm hosting it there, but youknowwhatImeanjeez Basically, when I'm scared a client won't be pleased with my results, I turn to  PROCESSING!!!!! as a means of distraction.And here's some light relief to make us all feel a little better: 
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Gazmachine posted:I wasn't going to post anything from it but I thought I'd put up the headshot, because I realised that not feeling like posting a shot means I should probably definitely post it, if you see what I mean? This isn't Flickr, after all - well, I'm hosting it there, but youknowwhatImeanjeez I think you're being hard on yourself. I'm sure your client will love it Not to be picky but on the left picture of Jade her chin has 3 odd colored spots, I think those could be safely removed :P
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These any better? I'm going to try to reshoot this weekend, but figured I'd give it a shot in post. IMG_3218-2 by Breanne Unger, on Flickr  IMG_3245-2 by Breanne Unger, on Flickr
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CarrotFlowers posted:
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Gazmachine posted:That's exactly what I did for the first three days of this week and, man, I feel sorry for the poor sap who does that for free, because it's a long day. Yes. I just took out 5 girls from my part-time job, did 2 looks each with a hair stylist/make-up artist and spent a good 13 hours on set (the stylist was supposed to have an assistant, but she never showed...). I can't imagine doing that on someone else's expectations and not get paid for it.
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CarrotFlowers posted:These any better? I'm going to try to reshoot this weekend, but figured I'd give it a shot in post. Much better, my taste personally would be to still bring in just a touch more detail to the jacket but you can see the lapels on his jacket now so thats already big improvement over last time. His eyes also seemed to gain a little bit of color (which is good). Looks good.
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Thank you, you lovely folk. They were basically fine with it - I think I was far more bothered by it than anyone else, client included.
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A couple more new ones from me; a co-worker who's leaving the company shortly. mister abate by thetzar, on Flickr  Untitled by thetzar, on Flickr  Untitled by thetzar, on Flickr  Untitled by thetzar, on Flickr
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