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Zeether
Aug 26, 2011

Amorphous Blob posted:

So last night I saw an ad for something called wild grinders.

What the gently caress is this poo poo? It's like an even lower budget Johnny Test meets Rocket Power. And before you ask, this isn't some online flash series made by one dude. This is supposed to air on nicktoons :psypop:
The camera has 420 minutes of battery remaining. I can't help but notice that.

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Farbtoner
May 17, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Neo Helbeast posted:

Level up is absolutely terrible. How did anyone think this was a good idea?

As videogames get more popular and socially-acceptable we're only going to be seeing more awful videogame-based shows and movies. Wreck-It Ralph sounds interesting, at least.

Neo Helbeast posted:

I'm finally getting around to Wakfu's second season and it's criminal this show never made to NA. It's so freaking pretty! For those who don't know Wakfu is a french animated fantasy show that has really high production values. Think of it as a French Avatar: The Last Airbender.

Every time I think about trying to watch Wakfu I see how porny the official artwork is and lose interest.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.

Amorphous Blob posted:

So last night I saw an ad for something called wild grinders.

What the gently caress is this poo poo? It's like an even lower budget Johnny Test meets Rocket Power. And before you ask, this isn't some online flash series made by one dude. This is supposed to air on nicktoons :psypop:

I saw this poo poo getting advertised before movies for like 3 months straight. It was movietickets.com or some poo poo, and there's a talking dog. It annoyed the living poo poo out of me every time I saw it.

404GoonNotFound
Aug 6, 2006

The McRib is back!?!?

Amorphous Blob posted:

So last night I saw an ad for something called wild grinders.

What the gently caress is this poo poo? It's like an even lower budget Johnny Test meets Rocket Power. And before you ask, this isn't some online flash series made by one dude. This is supposed to air on nicktoons :psypop:

Did you see Three Delivery, Kappa Mikey, the new Speed Racer or the Voltron remake? This is not below Nicktoon's quality threshold.

HypnoCabbage
Oct 26, 2007
Cheap as hell since 1971.

404GoonNotFound posted:

Did you see Three Delivery, Kappa Mikey, the new Speed Racer or the Voltron remake? This is not below Nicktoon's quality threshold.

I appreciated Kappa Mikey for at least trying something different, though it wore out its welcome fast by using the same formula for every episode.

And as bad as the other shows are, they're heartbreaking works of staggering genius compared to NFL Rush Zone, which is so bad you can't even enjoy the terrible football cameos, and that show they run featuring the characters from tennis shoe ads, which is so terrible I've actually managed to repress its name.

Amorphous Blob posted:

So last night I saw an ad for something called wild grinders.

What the gently caress is this poo poo? It's like an even lower budget Johnny Test meets Rocket Power. And before you ask, this isn't some online flash series made by one dude. This is supposed to air on nicktoons :psypop:

I believe we have stumbled upon a new rule of television:

Pro skateboarders + Animation = Terrible, terrible poo poo

HypnoCabbage fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Jan 30, 2012

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

HypnoCabbage posted:

I believe we have stumbled upon a new rule of television:

Pro skateboarders + Animation = Terrible, terrible poo poo
Also, the show's main selling point is that it's created by Rob Dyrdek (the second biggest douche in the universe, just behind Daniel Tosh)

BattleTech
Jun 6, 2010

Is this easy mode?
Fun Shoe

Farbtoner posted:

Every time I think about trying to watch Wakfu I see how porny the official artwork is and lose interest.

Bite the bullet and do it. The show proudly stands on its on two feet with funny puns, great characters Oh god Grovey's death:cry: and some best artwork in a cartoon that I've ever seen. Also the villain for the first season pretty rad too. He's a time mage who's going around sucking up souls to power his time machine so he can go back in time to save his family.

404GoonNotFound posted:

Did you see Three Delivery, Kappa Mikey, the new Speed Racer or the Voltron remake? This is not below Nicktoon's quality threshold.

I'll argue that Kappa Mikey was quite subtle at making fun of actors but, the rest of those were/are quite dreadful.

Megera
Sep 9, 2008

Neo Helbeast posted:

Bite the bullet and do it. The show proudly stands on its on two feet with funny puns, great characters Oh god Grovey's death:cry: and some best artwork in a cartoon that I've ever seen. Also the villain for the first season pretty rad too. He's a time mage who's going around sucking up souls to power his time machine so he can go back in time to save his family.

I love the first two episodes and second half of the first season, but everything in between was just boring filler until they remembered they had a plot they could work with. I give every show a season until I decide to watch more, but that first half was just hard to work through. Excellent payoff, though. :)

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
I thought they switched teams after the first eight or so episodes? Because those first few were baaaaad but after that it got good and never stopped.

No.1 Special
Apr 4, 2011

HypnoCabbage posted:

I believe we have stumbled upon a new rule of television:

Pro skateboarders + Animation = Terrible, terrible poo poo

See also Rocket Power.

Prof. Spaceman
May 1, 2007

NOPE

No.1 Special posted:

See also Rocket Power.

Several years ago, I hated Rocket Power so much that I wrote an angry oral presentation on it in my freshman college Communications seminar.

Incidentally, I did not get to have any sex in college.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

HypnoCabbage posted:

Pro skateboarders + Animation = Terrible, terrible poo poo

You can generalize this equation to Kid's show + anything some stupid big wig exec. thinks is popular with kids = terrible. See CN Real, Level Up, some new not-pokemon show nicktoons is currently promoting.

Also wild grinders' main character's blue-overalls-on-red outfit reminds me of Mario.

HypnoCabbage
Oct 26, 2007
Cheap as hell since 1971.

Prof. Spaceman posted:

Several years ago, I hated Rocket Power so much that I wrote an angry oral presentation on it in my freshman college Communications seminar.

Incidentally, I did not get to have any sex in college.

I was actually indirectly referring to this piece of mind-numbing crap, but let's face it: Rocket Power was uninspired, boring, and just difficult to watch for any length of time.

That was pretty much the high water mark for Klasky Csupo's popularity, too: pretty much everything they put out after that was somewhere on the continuum from lame to terrible.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
I always assumed that one of their higher ups managed to piss off the director of programming at Nick. It was the only thing I could think of to explain why their terrible shows were all finally cancelled at around the same time.

HypnoCabbage
Oct 26, 2007
Cheap as hell since 1971.

Cliff Racer posted:

I always assumed that one of their higher ups managed to piss off the director of programming at Nick. It was the only thing I could think of to explain why their terrible shows were all finally cancelled at around the same time.

You can certainly make the argument that they ran out of ideas, or they were expending most of their money on other avenues, like their feature-length projects. Wikipedia says they still exist, though under a different name as part of a different studio working on a show for MTV. I imagine whatever momentum Csupo had left in the industry fizzled out when his uber-expensive Bridge to Terabithia adaptation bombed.

max4me
Jun 15, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
I swear the way they marketed that movie was just awful....

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Zeether posted:

Part of me wants to think they're waiting for the game to launch to think about bringing it here, but it may never happen. :negative:

They already had a lovely XBLA game that came out like a year ago, which mostly prompted responses of "what the gently caress is Islands of Wakfu?"

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Prof. Spaceman posted:

Several years ago, I hated Rocket Power so much that I wrote an angry oral presentation on it in my freshman college Communications seminar.
Please tell me you still have it.

Venusy
Feb 21, 2007
Courage the Cowardly Dog is back:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcNIgv3XAYs

bondster
May 6, 2007

Venusy posted:

Courage the Cowardly Dog is back:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcNIgv3XAYs

Even if it is supposedly leaked, that video screams fake to me. But if it were true and Courage was really coming back :swoon:

404GoonNotFound
Aug 6, 2006

The McRib is back!?!?
I'd probably believe it if there were even one second of new animation in there.

Venusy
Feb 21, 2007
Yeah, sorry about that, false alarm, I just got a bit too excited about it as well. :smith: It was uploaded in September, so CN would probably have either confirmed it or took it down from YouTube by now if it was real.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
The video's not from CN, so I ain't buyin' it.

Besides, they're not really in the business of reviving dead properties. The only time I can remember them doing that are those terrible last 2 seasons of Dexter's Lab. Also, that one Powerpuff Girls short, but I don't think that counts.

e: Well, after a quick trip to Wikipedia, apparently Johnny Bravo went into limbo and was retooled twice, but I still think bringing back a show after 9 years is a bit... ridiculous.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
The past few times I've been to Disneyland the place has been quite flooded with Phineas & Ferb merch. I tossed it on one morning but was still sleepy and missed most of it.

I started listening to their radio station recently, since I'm seriously tired of the current top 40 and I figured Disney wouldn't play "Sexy And I Know It". Anyway, Radio Disney was promoting this Austin & Ally show hard, so I sat down and watched 1.5 episodes when I saw a back-to-back of it in the schedule. I can't really say it's very good. I have a high tolerance for bad television, but it feels like they took some of the writers from Two & A Half Men or something as every laugh line falls pretty flat.

Teenage comedy can be cheesy and still good, I mean I've been watching Keenan Thompson's career from the fat kid on All That to a regular on SNL. The writers of Austin & Ally don't actually seem to know what teenagers are actually like, and are just taking routine adult sitcom plots and cutting a decade off the character's years. For instance, twenty-somethings having a rivalry over something that happened in high school makes sense, but high-school aged teenagers having a rivalry over something that happened when they were five years old does not, and that was the plot of one of the two episodes.

Also, that poo poo was on at 7 or 8 PM, and on again in the morning. I remember when Disney used to daypart their schedule so the target age went up as the day went on. This kind of thing should be on around 4 or 5.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Feb 12, 2012

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Here's something weird, I'm watching Adventure Time and they had an ad for this week's episode of Level Up and apparently its commercial free?

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

They're probably going to have characters explicitly mention the name of a show's sponsor multiple times during the episode.

mobo85
Apr 21, 2007

I've just insulted the macaroni and cheese recipe of a whale! What part of that is not evil?
For some reason, Cartoon Network has been airing Level Up commercial-free for the past number of weeks now. I have no idea why. According to a recent New York Times article, not showing commercials actually nullifies your Nielsen ratings. I'm not sure if this is what CN is intentionally doing to inflate their ratings or not, but it would be rather odd to given all the promotion they've been giving the show. Are they actually unsure of it?

Craptacular! posted:

I started listening to their radio station recently, since I'm seriously tired of the current top 40 and I figured Disney wouldn't play "Sexy And I Know It". Anyway, Radio Disney was promoting this Austin & Ally show hard, so I sat down and watched 1.5 episodes when I saw a back-to-back of it in the schedule. I can't really say it's very good. I have a high tolerance for bad television, but it feels like they took some of the writers from Two & A Half Men or something as every laugh line falls pretty flat.

Like most of the live-action Disney stuff, Austin & Ally (which comes from Kevin Kopelow and Heath Seibert, two former writers for All That and Kenan and Kel*) is pretty bad. The only things it has going for it are its music, which like most of the Disney stuff is pretty catchy (one of their go-to songwriting teams actually wrote "Pictures in my Head" from The Muppets, believe it or not) and the character played by the would-you-believe-she's-actually-an-adult older sister of the kid from Modern Family, who at least seems like she's trying even though her character's joke in every episode is basically "Guess who got another new job that I'm going to screw up in a 'hilarious' manner?"

I have no idea how to end this post, so here's the First Lady dancing with Perry the Platypus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDdga_jTRGg

*An excuse to tell the joke I made up that only I probably find hilarious:
"Mr. Kopelow, how long can you come up with an iCarly/Victorious ripoff for Disney Channel?"
"FIVE MINUTES! FIVE MINUTES, PEOPLE!"

HypnoCabbage
Oct 26, 2007
Cheap as hell since 1971.
That bugs me on some level. Why is it that, with the exception of Phineas and Ferb and maybe Fish Hooks, pretty much everything Disney runs on its XD channel seems to be so much better than the stuff on Disney Channel proper? Not that Zeke and Luther is particularly good or anything, but at least it's trying to be different and isn't the same overly broad junk you can find elsewhere.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

mobo85 posted:

For some reason, Cartoon Network has been airing Level Up commercial-free for the past number of weeks now. I have no idea why. According to a recent New York Times article, not showing commercials actually nullifies your Nielsen ratings. I'm not sure if this is what CN is intentionally doing to inflate their ratings or not, but it would be rather odd to given all the promotion they've been giving the show. Are they actually unsure of it?

Wouldn't shock me. I mean, they've been plugging it in every other conceivable way, so the only reason not to run commercials is to nullify ratings. I don't know, I don't think I've heard of anybody liking it, and frankly, given the quality of CN's last couple of attempts at live-action shows, I'm shocked Level Up even exists.

HypnoCabbage posted:

That bugs me on some level. Why is it that, with the exception of Phineas and Ferb and maybe Fish Hooks, pretty much everything Disney runs on its XD channel seems to be so much better than the stuff on Disney Channel proper? Not that Zeke and Luther is particularly good or anything, but at least it's trying to be different and isn't the same overly broad junk you can find elsewhere.

Man, that bothers me too. Seriously, Disney, I want to watch Avengers without going to Youtube. Just let me give you my ratings/viewership/precious minutes of my life without having to upgrade my cable package, dammit.

VVV: God, I wish I could afford Netflix. The only reason I have cable at all is because my on-campus housing provides it.

TwoPair fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Feb 13, 2012

Behonkiss
Feb 10, 2005

TwoPair posted:

Man, that bothers me too. Seriously, Disney, I want to watch Avengers without going to Youtube. Just let me give you my ratings/viewership/precious minutes of my life without having to upgrade my cable package, dammit.

The Avengers cartoon (As well as Phineas & Ferb) are both running ad-free on Netflix Streaming, if you happen to have that.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

HypnoCabbage posted:

That bugs me on some level. Why is it that, with the exception of Phineas and Ferb and maybe Fish Hooks, pretty much everything Disney runs on its XD channel seems to be so much better than the stuff on Disney Channel proper? Not that Zeke and Luther is particularly good or anything, but at least it's trying to be different and isn't the same overly broad junk you can find elsewhere.

Disney is, as an entire company, focusing too heavily on girls. I'm a theme park nerd, and while the Princess bullshit was a sort of gripe about theme park nerds in the past years it has simply seeped through to the core of the marketing message. The most common complaint is that your typical Disney World commercial will show you nothing but the castle, some fireworks, and the teacups, and that's it. Nothing from Epcot, no Animal Kingdom, no thrill rides, nothing.

Speaking of, Disneyworld's Fantasyland expansion/renovation had the brakes pulled and the plans adjusted because the division president realized that the entire thing was one big slobbery kiss to the Princess movement with nothing for a male to be interested in doing.

XD wasn't a bad idea, it just isn't in as many households and is stuck in the higher cable tiers. They probably should have just retitled ABC Family instead of Toon Disney, since Jetix was probably more popular on Family. Even if it meant these weird breaks where the boy cartoons have to stop for the contractually-obligated airings of The 700 Club.

BattleTech
Jun 6, 2010

Is this easy mode?
Fun Shoe
So I've recently been replacing my videos of Ed, Edd and Eddy with DVDs(Cartoon Network all of your DVDs should be this nice!) and I picked up a couple of seasons from eBay. I ended up buying Thai versions of Seasons 3-5 and after trying to return them 3 times only for the seller to ship them back to me I've given up on getting my money back. On this final time he only sent me seasons 3 and 4 back. So if you guys wanna buy some Thai DVDs dirt cheap I have some to sell :smith:

Prof. Spaceman
May 1, 2007

NOPE

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Please tell me you still have it.
Naw, I switched computers a couple years ago and that monument to my youthful nerdy dipshittitude didn't make the transfer cut.

Hatter106
Nov 25, 2006

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Craptacular! posted:

Speaking of, Disneyworld's Fantasyland expansion/renovation had the brakes pulled and the plans adjusted because the division president realized that the entire thing was one big slobbery kiss to the Princess movement with nothing for a male to be interested in doing.

Oh wow, I thought it was still on schedule? Got any more info/links?

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

HypnoCabbage posted:

That bugs me on some level. Why is it that, with the exception of Phineas and Ferb and maybe Fish Hooks, pretty much everything Disney runs on its XD channel seems to be so much better than the stuff on Disney Channel proper? Not that Zeke and Luther is particularly good or anything, but at least it's trying to be different and isn't the same overly broad junk you can find elsewhere.
Zeke and Luther, I'm In the Band, et al are basically Disney Channel shows with the gender targeting turned to "boy" instead of "girl." Don't give XD too much credit.

Disney XD was created to appeal to the 8-to-14 year old boy demographic, so it's not like Disney isn't aware that Disney Channel offerings aren't for them. Perhaps they should try mixing it up a little on the main channel?

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Craptacular! posted:

Speaking of, Disneyworld's Fantasyland expansion/renovation had the brakes pulled and the plans adjusted because the division president realized that the entire thing was one big slobbery kiss to the Princess movement with nothing for a male to be interested in doing.

The division president can speak for himself :colbert: I'm looking forward to eating in Beast's Ballroom so freaking much.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Craptacular! posted:

Teenage comedy can be cheesy and still good, I mean I've been watching Keenan Thompson's career from the fat kid on All That to a regular on SNL.

Here's the thing about that: you were in the target audience as you watched those shows. I tried watching that Nickelodeon 90's block a couple of times and I could only make it about 10 or 15 minutes.

Craptacular! posted:

XD wasn't a bad idea, it just isn't in as many households and is stuck in the higher cable tiers. They probably should have just retitled ABC Family instead of Toon Disney, since Jetix was probably more popular on Family. Even if it meant these weird breaks where the boy cartoons have to stop for the contractually-obligated airings of The 700 Club.

:eng101: They initially planned on renaming it to "ZYX" (the opposite of "ABC", get it?!) when they originally bought the channel from Fox, but they didn't realize that the two mandates that come with the channel are:
1) Must air The 700 Club
2) Must have "Family" in the channel name.

Probably some kind of mandate on the kind of programming they're allowed to show, too. What's the advantage of "buying" a currently existing channel rather than just creating your own, anyway? Does it have something to do with retaining all the cable systems that carry the channel?

404GoonNotFound
Aug 6, 2006

The McRib is back!?!?

raditts posted:

What's the advantage of "buying" a currently existing channel rather than just creating your own, anyway? Does it have something to do with retaining all the cable systems that carry the channel?

Exactly that, yes. It's why G4 bought TechTV (an attempt by Comcast to muscle in on Time Warner/Dish Network/DirectTV's packages), and why The Hub replaced Discovery Kids.

mobo85
Apr 21, 2007

I've just insulted the macaroni and cheese recipe of a whale! What part of that is not evil?
This is part of the reason why Disney opted not to change the network's name- if they dropped the work "Family", it would technically be considered a new network and they would lose all the affiliates they already had.

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get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

raditts posted:

Here's the thing about that: you were in the target audience as you watched those shows. I tried watching that Nickelodeon 90's block a couple of times and I could only make it about 10 or 15 minutes.
I gotta say that All That really isn't that good, with a couple exceptions (as I said earlier, "Cooking with Randy and Mandy" isn't that far off from gimmick Food Network chefs like Paula Deen and was unintentionally ahead of its time). Kenan and Kel is OK but not the awesome, life-changing show that some make it out to be.

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