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So there's this thing: http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/08/kia-trackster-concept-chicago-2012/  AutoBlog posted:The idea for the Track'ster is to run what your brung, so while the car itself carries everything you need to race, it also needs to move with enough hustle that you're not embarrassed behind the wheel. To that end, Kia has fitted the concept with a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder producing 250 horsepower that gets dissected by a six-speed short throw manual transmission and further divided among all four 19-inch wheels by an all-wheel-drive system.
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Well it was posted twice last page but I hadn't seen that particular photo of it. The more I look at it the more it just feels weird having those two grilles. Edit: if I block out the upper grille with my thumb, it looks really mean and aggressive, but if i block the lower on it looks happy and derpy. davebo fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Feb 9, 2012 |
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2ndclasscitizen posted:Hell, you could even just go for an SS Sportwagon and still stomp anything short of a unicorn AMG/M/RS wagon, and put the saving from the HSV towards a blower. Or one that's a couple of years old (if you're not worried about warranty then why not make that savage initial depreciation work for you) Mighty Horse posted:Wait..They sell the cruze in Europe? Its not a Vauxhaul something or other? Don't you remember the Chevrolet Lacetti from previous seasons of Top Gear? The Cruze is essentially a bigger and slightly cheaper alternative to the Vauxhall Astra
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I never thought I'd say this, but the new Astra is a gorgeous, very tidy car. Even the 5 door looks pretty drat good.
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Taaaaaaarb! posted:So there's this thing: I have the weirdest boner right now.  I really cant figure out if all the good things: 250hp, AWD, short throw shifter; can really outweigh the fact that it looks like a koopa troopa.
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Taaaaaaarb! posted:So there's this thing: This thing looks like a loving transformer from the headlights
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Thwomp posted:Because we're still haunted by the boxy cars of the 80s and nice looking, non-overpriced hatches (GOLF How is boxy a bad thing? The one thing I can't stand about modern wagons is that they taper way too much, which cuts into usable cargo room and looks lame. All I want is a modernized 70s Chevy Caprice wagon with a swing out tailgate. Is that so much to ask for?  extra: I found this photoshop while google image searching for a suitable caprice wagon pic:  loving 
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Cream_Filling posted:extra: I found this photoshop while google image searching for a suitable caprice wagon pic: Return of the Roadmaster. Return of the Roadmaster 
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Cream_Filling posted:extra: I found this photoshop while google image searching for a suitable caprice wagon pic: Holy poo poo it's a Challenger wagon.
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Cream_Filling posted:
I would buy this tomorrow, minus the wood paneling. Put the new 6.0 V8 in that bad boy and you'd have a fun to drive, stylish wagon. On that same note, put the new Caprice into widespread release.
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Whip Slagcheek posted:I would buy this tomorrow, minus the wood paneling. Put the new 6.0 V8 in that bad boy and you'd have a fun to drive, stylish wagon. On that same note, put the new Caprice into widespread release.
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Cream_Filling posted:How is boxy a bad thing? The one thing I can't stand about modern wagons is that they taper way too much, which cuts into usable cargo room and looks lame. Word, my dads 2010 avensis wagon its substantially bigger than my 1999 volvo, yet can't physically carry 3m stock, it's a breeze in mine.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:That'd explain why you had to upgrade the power steering cooler for sure. What did you do for braking, uprated pads on the stock Brembo calipers and solid rotors? Carbotech XP10 pads front and rear, stock calipers and rotors (the fronts are beefy 14.2" slotted rotors so the only advantage to different rotors would be to shed unsprung weight). I also had spindle ducts on the front brakes feeding from the stock brake ducting on the front fascia to provide additional cooling. With some motul 600 brake fluid I legitimately never had any significant brake fading over the course of a 30 minute session. The only issue I ever really had was after a number of track days the front calipers would invariably start to have issues with stuck pistons, but since refurbed calipers were something like $150 each after the core charge it was easy enough to just have an extra set on hand and replace as needed instead of blowing a ton of money on a set of stoptechs or something.
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Cream_Filling posted:extra: I found this photoshop while google image searching for a suitable caprice wagon pic: Edit: and different wheels
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Sounds like Kia's finally going to get its own RWD sedan based on the Genesis. Rumors indicate either the 5.0 V8 rated at 429 hp or possibly a twin-turbo 3.3L V6 (which in a concept car was rated at 390 hp) as the top engine, using their new new 8-speed automatic transmission. Interior spy pics follow (click thumbs for full):    Additional spy shots here also seem to show some sort of weird square shaped LED headlight elements. http://thekoreancarblog.com/tag/kia-k9/ Sounds pretty cool. Now give us a proper sports sedan version Kia 
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Or give us ANYTHING with a worthwhile engine and three pedals.
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Im still kinda confused why im suddenly lusting after a Hyundai / Kia, and starting to feel disgusted by VW
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the chic in psychic posted:Im still kinda confused why im suddenly lusting after a Hyundai / Kia, and starting to feel disgusted by VW The power of branding.
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the chic in psychic posted:Im still kinda confused why im suddenly lusting after a Hyundai / Kia, and starting to feel disgusted by VW Because one's trying to take itself downmarket (see: the new US Jetta) and the other's trying to move upmarket? OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Feb 12, 2012 |
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Feb 12, 2012 02:07
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Because Motley Crue can sell anything .
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I have to admit I stopped at the Kia dealer on the way home Friday with a tape measure just to see if my gear would fit in it. It looks like it will so technically it's on my list of possible cars. Of course what'll probably happen is I'll just cave before next summer and pay to fix my car's A/C instead. It'll buy me time to see if anything good is coming in 2013. I know Ford is ditching that godawful Fusion grille.
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Some renderings of Infiniti's EMERG-E mid-engined hybrid sports car concept were leaked over the weekend. It's going to be revealed at the Geneva Motor Show next month. http://blog.caranddriver.com/infiniti-emerg-e-mid-engine-sports-car-concept-revealed-geneva-auto-show/    
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What makes the rear so Fisker Karma like? Lights and exhaust placement?
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That 3/4 front render looks awful. Everything else is kind of nice though so maybe it's just perspective?
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kimbo305 posted:What makes the rear so Fisker Karma like? Lights and exhaust placement?  rscott posted:That 3/4 front render looks awful. Everything else is kind of nice though so maybe it's just perspective?
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New m6. This car was pretty heavily telegraphed, but is still a pretty crazy car. 560hp, MPG improved by 30%. http://www.bmwblog.com/2012/02/11/world-premiere-2013-bmw-m6-coupe/
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ynotony posted:New m6. This car was pretty heavily telegraphed, but is still a pretty crazy car. 560hp, MPG improved by 30%. This is miles better than the old  M6/6-Series. It's actually attractive now!
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rscott posted:That 3/4 front render looks awful. Everything else is kind of nice though so maybe it's just perspective? I think it's because that's the only angle from which you get a good look at that horrible front grille. Also, I take it the chances of this car making it to production are basically nil. It looks like a Mazda nagare concept from like 4 years ago. But then again, maybe this means that we'll see a volume version from Nissan on the same platform. (hahahahaha)
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Mr. Apollo posted:It's an evolution of the Essence concept , but it's probably the narrower tail lights. It looks like they have it set to show no perspective which is usually how you work because having it on in CAD programs while working is
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Hey guys here's an actual car that's going to be produced and sold - The new Integra.   There's a base model 2.0l engine and a hybrid, who gives a poo poo. There's also a 2.4l with a 6 speed that puts out 201 hp, which is all right I guess if they're harkening back to the old Integra, but didn't the RSX have 210hp out of a 2.0l engine? Yes it was more rev happy but that was sort of the point. I guess they're trying to dial it down a bit to increase mass appeal, but it's a bit disappointing. Also the fuel economy for the 2.4l is 20/29, which seems pretty dismal for what's essentially a Honda Civic with a 2.4l engine and a 6 speed. By comparison, in the same rpess release they mention the new V6 RDX gets 20/28 in FWD and 19/27 with AWD.
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You can basically consider the ILX 2.4 a Civic Si Sedan with more sound deadening and weight. The Civic Si Sedan is EPA rated at 22/31. One of the consistent criticisms of the RSX-S and Civic Si 2.0 was that There Arent Enough Torks and now that they put in a KA24 or whatever to get some more torque now They Killed Its Soul. I get the complaints but it's like a no-win situation for Honda.
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Well the people complaining about torque are wrong.  The Si starts at $22k, if they price this at $24-$26k it might be all right.
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Hey look, another boring Honda. Ho hum. Didn't the CEO just complain and admit to the media that all their cars are uninspired and boring? So they went out and plunked another one in the market, good job.
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Is it going to be called the Integra in NA again?
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Throatwarbler posted:Well the people complaining about torque are wrong. That poo poo's going to start at 26 for the 2.4 I guarantee you. Then a 3 grand Tech package which is sun roof and fancy electronic bits.
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Rhyno posted:Is it going to be called the Integra in NA again? Why would they do that, they're in love with their three letter naming convention and it's already called the ILX?
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Why would they do that, they're in love with their three letter naming convention and it's already called the ILX? Throatwobbler called it the new Integra which is why I asked.
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How the hell is this Integra ILX different than the TSX?
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Keyser S0ze posted:How the hell is this Integra ILX different than the TSX? It's going to be made and the TSX is being killed off? Also it's a Civic and the TSX is an Accord.
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