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Paul Pot
Mar 4, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

MassRayPer posted:

I am ok with knees on the ground being illegal, they could get rather disturbing to watch. On top of that, wrestlers probably don't need another tool to ruin everything.

How are knees on the ground any more disturbing than Anderson destroying Rich's face in the clinch? The grossest thing in MMA is Palhares grabbing a leg anyway.

FYI: Good MMA has moved past wrestler-bjj-striker stereotypes and you don't hurt the sport by allowing techniques that favor the fighter with the better skillset. I don't see why knees (unlike stomps) would result in worse injuries than under the current ruleset and we'd finally be done debating whether fighter A was touching the floor with his pinky.

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coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

I wanna see someone knee a hammy into oblivion.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
What does knee from the mount mean?

I am not very knowledgeable about the modern rules, and I am having trouble imagining what this could mean.

Does it mean you cannot knee a guy when he is getting up like a Shining Wizard, or that you cannot like hop up and land knees first on a guy when he is down.

henkman
Oct 8, 2008
The rules right now say you can't kick or knee a downed opponent in the head. A downed can be a guy laying on a ground, a guy on his knees, or a guy with "3 points" down (so if he is bent over with his hand on the ground he is considered down).

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

henkman posted:

The rules right now say you can't kick or knee a downed opponent in the head. A downed can be a guy laying on a ground, a guy on his knees, or a guy with "3 points" down (so if he is bent over with his hand on the ground he is considered down).

So, no shining wizards then.

Are you allowed to buzzsaw kick?

henkman
Oct 8, 2008
Had no idea what those were but no you can't use those.

nocturama
Dec 26, 2007

how about noogies. or chinese burns

Chexoid
Nov 5, 2009

Now that I have this dating robot I can take it easy.
Guida once put Nate diaz in a full Nelson, proving that school-yard bully is the best base for mma.

edit: also that Nate is bad.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

Chexoid posted:

Guida once put Nate diaz in a full Nelson, proving that school-yard bully is the best base for mma.

edit: also that Nate is bad.

Carlos Newton won a title using a headlock.

Thermos H Christ
Sep 6, 2007

WINNINGEST BEVO
Matt Hughes put loving Ricardo Almeida to sleep using a fancy headlock.

Meat Recital
Mar 26, 2009

by zen death robot

BlindSite posted:

Carlos Newton won a title using a headlock.

The rippling of Carlos Newton's back as he cranks back on this choke is absolutely wonderful. No homo.

It's a shame to think that same Carlos Newton is now setting up fake retirement homes to scam old people into, while showing off his new leather jacket.

Paul Pot
Mar 4, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
what what what...didn't he study medicine and anime during his mma career

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

BlindSite posted:

Carlos Newton won a title using a headlock.

Matt Hughes beat Newton by getting choked unconscious followed by the best powerbomb MMA has ever seen.

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009

Henry Meowlins posted:

Matt Hughes beat Newton by getting choked unconscious followed by the best powerbomb MMA has ever seen.

yo bref stank

Chrom1um
Dec 31, 2005
Come and join my doomsday cult!
I wasn't sure if this thread was just for bad journalism or any journalism, but this falls under the latter.

Wyoming is moving towards creating a special MMA commission. Marc Ratner is lending a hand lobbying there.

quote:

House Bill 87, passed an initial vote 46-14 on Thursday. The bill must now survive three more House votes before it would head to the Senate for consideration.


Keep in mind that this is a state that doesn't have an athletic commission of any kind, so while not hugely significant, this is a major surprise. They would be regulating MMA before boxing. It would be the 46th state (plus Washington DC) to sanction and regulate MMA if it passes, leaving just Alaska (no commission; has a surprisingly active indy scene), Vermont (not sanctioned but not explicitly illegal either; two small promotions run a few events a year), Connecticut (explicitly illegal although the Mohegan Sun venue is on an Indian reservation and thus exempt), and New York (explicitly illegal). It may or may not pass within the year.

Grifter
Jul 24, 2003

I do this technique called a suplex. You probably haven't heard of it, it's pretty obscure.

henkman posted:

The rules right now say you can't kick or knee a downed opponent in the head. A downed can be a guy laying on a ground, a guy on his knees, or a guy with "3 points" down (so if he is bent over with his hand on the ground he is considered down).
I'm fine with disallowing knees on the ground, but I wish there was a better way to do it than the whole "playing the game" thing.

mewse
May 2, 2006

Bean Fried posted:

They would be regulating MMA before boxing.

what is this about? :

quote:

State lawmakers have tried five times in the past decade to resurrect the office of the state boxing commissioner, who would oversee MMA. Opposition from the boxing industry KO’d those efforts.

why would the boxing industry oppose an athletic commission, the fees?

gently caress boxing uggh

Opal
May 10, 2005

some by their splendor rival the colors of the painters, others the flame of burning sulphur or of fire quickened by oil.

Grifter posted:

I'm fine with disallowing knees on the ground, but I wish there was a better way to do it than the whole "playing the game" thing.

And the fix is quite easy, just disallow knees or kicks to an opponent who has at least one knee on the ground. Hands and arms don't need to come into it.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

Grifter posted:

I'm fine with disallowing knees on the ground, but I wish there was a better way to do it than the whole "playing the game" thing.

More guys should knee and kick to the body instead.

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib

1st AD posted:

More guys should knee and kick to the body instead.

Menjivar did it in UFC on Fuel and it owned a lot. He gave up control to deliver the kick, of course.

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011
dan herbertson, a man who lives in japan, was so surprised that japanese people reacted in the same way to the ufc as people anywhere else in the world that it made him cry.

Triticum Guzzler
Jun 16, 2002

david carmichael posted:

dan herbertson, a man who lives in japan, was so surprised that japanese people reacted in the same way to the ufc as people anywhere else in the world that it made him cry.

i'm crying too, about his admission

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
what was his report that is going to forever change the face of half naked sweaty men grapple punching? did it get released? it wasn't that big a deal, was it

Triticum Guzzler
Jun 16, 2002

maffew buildings posted:

what was his report that is going to forever change the face of half naked sweaty men grapple punching? did it get released? it wasn't that big a deal, was it

it got cut down to like 5 minutes of barely contextualised footage from a 90 minute interview of Miro Mijatovic saying he had a gun pointed at him, followed by Mike Straka thanking "Zach Arnold of Cage Potato"

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
eastern european man has gun pointed at him for perceived or real faux pas, too drunk to know what they did. this is hardly news worthy

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
where did this thing actually air? i am skeptical that this is a real thing

Biodome
Nov 21, 2006

Gerry

Kiwi Bigtree posted:

So, no shining wizards then.

Are you allowed to buzzsaw kick?

Close enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHBMKOboqJQ

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008

maffew buildings posted:

eastern european man has gun pointed at him for perceived or real faux pas, too drunk to know what they did. this is hardly news worthy
It was over him not signing over the rights to Fedor.

Chrom1um
Dec 31, 2005
Come and join my doomsday cult!
The Connecticut Legislature is once again pondering regulating MMA. There's a bill coming up for public hearing next week apparently, so it's in a really early stage, but if it doesn't get derails it should come to fruition in oh, about six months. Still, they're closer to regulation than New York now. Marc Ratner should be there to advocate on behalf of the UFC.

This is in addition to Wyoming possibly creating an MMA commission, reported a few weeks back. It's already passed the Wyoming House of Representatives and passed a Senate committee vote a few days ago, meaning it only has to pass a Senate vote and then get the Governor's signature.

So, this is where things stand right now:

New York - Not regulated by the state athletic commission, MMA is explicitly illegal
Connecticut - Not regulated by the SAC, MMA is explicitly illegal*; it might be legal by the end of the year
Vermont - Not regulated by the SAC, but MMA appears to be legal
Wyoming - No state athletic commission present, but MMA is legal; there is a good chance that there will be a commission in place specifically for MMA by the end of the year
Alaska - No state athletic commission present, but MMA is legal
Montana - Not regulated by the SAC beyond licensing (if I'm wrong about this please let me know), but MMA is legal; they're kind of in a gray area

The other 44 states and Washington DC - MMA is both legal and regulated by the state athletic commission

*: The Mohegan Sun Casino venue is an exception in Connecticut, as it is on an Indian reservation, and they run regular shows. People who bring that up in arguments tend to miss the point however.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
http://www.mmafighting.com/strikeforce/2012/3/4/2843614/ronda-rousey-calls-title-win-big-deal-for-womens-mma

Nice to see how much Ariel has grown. I love when he tells the guy "hold the gently caress up, I'm talking to the champ."

mewse
May 2, 2006

Henry Meowlins posted:

http://www.mmafighting.com/strikeforce/2012/3/4/2843614/ronda-rousey-calls-title-win-big-deal-for-womens-mma

Nice to see how much Ariel has grown. I love when he tells the guy "hold the gently caress up, I'm talking to the champ."

didnt watch the vid but why is he touching her face in the picture? does he think because he is working for zuffa he can just touch peoples faces now

Triticum Guzzler
Jun 16, 2002

mewse posted:

didnt watch the vid but why is he touching her face in the picture? does he think because he is working for zuffa he can just touch peoples faces now

and what's with this greedy motherfucker having two right arms? this is bullshit

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Chimney Sweeps Week posted:

and what's with this greedy motherfucker having two right arms? this is bullshit

lol

henkman
Oct 8, 2008

Chimney Sweeps Week posted:

and what's with this greedy motherfucker having two right arms? this is bullshit

Hahaha

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything

mewse posted:

didnt watch the vid but why is he touching her face in the picture? does he think because he is working for zuffa he can just touch peoples faces now

that video is like three minutes long

don't watch fights. don't watch Ariel.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

ed: wrong thread.

mewse
May 2, 2006

Chimney Sweeps Week posted:

and what's with this greedy motherfucker having two right arms? this is bullshit

on the bright side i kinda feel like the king of low effort posting now

-Atom- posted:

don't watch fights. don't watch Ariel.

don't notice physically implausible situations

BrianPhillips
May 10, 2006
Just thought I'd point out another mistake in MMA "Journalism" with MMA Junkie saying that Pettis is "WEC champ Anthony Pettis (16-1 MMA, 2-1 UFC". When he totally lost to Bart in the WEC.

A fight I still haven't seen and I really want to because even before the Showtime Kick he became my favorite fighter off of the Shane Roller fight.

e: How do they fail so bad?

BrianPhillips fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Mar 6, 2012

niethan
Nov 22, 2005

Don't be scared, homie!

mewse posted:

don't notice physically implausible situations

anatomically

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willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries
I have a new found respect for even the worst MMA journalists.

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