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GET MONEY
Sep 7, 2003

:krakken::krakken::krakken:

Tactical Grace posted:

Is all of Curren$y's material worth a listen?

Life at 30,000 Feet is my favorite Curren$y tape, he kills this gem of a Neptunes beat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYjdsEsROEI

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the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

thunderthief posted:

i felt the opposite

i had only laughed at riff raff until this but i'm feelin it

that video where he's with soulja boy makes him seem actually retarded irl maybe he just does too much drugs or something

You will love Riff Raff. Tatted like a biker boy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHvkHhof8UA&feature=related

Diodeous
May 14, 2002

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I prefer my Riff Raff to either snort coke and flow about how he's the rap game Lenny Dykstra (Option A) or to be so selfless that he'll help youngsters achieve their dreams of "flowing" (Option B). Riff Raff has grown so much since MC Serch first graced the nation with his presence. He truly is a man for all seasons.

goldblums eyes
Jan 11, 2011

Diodeous posted:

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I prefer my Riff Raff to either snort coke and flow about how he's the rap game Lenny Dykstra (Option A) or to be so selfless that he'll help youngsters achieve their dreams of "flowing" (Option B). Riff Raff has grown so much since MC Serch first graced the nation with his presence. He truly is a man for all seasons.

he was on g's to gents not the white rapper show


but speaking of the white rapper show, I still will randomly listen to this guy
throw up ya 7's

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

So I found the rap anthem of the year and for some reason I can't understand the youtube page is filled with "slenderman" comments. Whatever. Listen to da anthem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmAXUt_khqs

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Riff Raff is the most aptly named rapper next to Fat Joe and Crunchy Black.

Busdriver had a good interview in avclub. Talks about him being an idiot, paving the way for Odd Future (real interesting), and his shift from rhyming to producing.

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!
I haven't gotten deep into Trap Back because I love "Back in 95" too much. Any other highlights I should check out?

BTW, talking bout "Back in 95" reminds me.... RIP Pimp C.

blitzkreig.bmp
Aug 7, 2008

Rottin' and Rollin'

Boywhiz88 posted:

I haven't gotten deep into Trap Back because I love "Back in 95" too much. Any other highlights I should check out?

BTW, talking bout "Back in 95" reminds me.... RIP Pimp C.

Opposite and okay with me are both great, but tracks 3-6 are the best sequence of songs on the tape.

goldblums eyes
Jan 11, 2011

I've been realllyyyy into Walking Lick

Rabid Koala
Aug 18, 2003


bows1 posted:

Death Grips - Exmilitary

Dunno if its considered rap or what but its great

This mixtape is ridiculously good. Dude mixes two of my favorite things - stellar beats and Satan - and is pissed as hell. Anything else out there like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89F5fpvwPr0

snyprmag
Oct 9, 2005

B L A C K I E also makes some really good noise rap and is probably the closest thing out to Death Grips.
Dälek is he other artist that jumps to mind. They aren'y quite as aggressive but they make great soundscapes for the dude to spit over.

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic
dudes voice reminds me of the RZA when he yells, never heard this gonna take a minute to get used to

Maarak
May 23, 2007

"Go for it!"

quote:

Hasbro asked Wu-Tang Clan bigwig RZA, who plays the sensei in the movie, what accessories his character should come with. RZA wanted a wide-brimmed hat with blades coming out of it.

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic
Lol really loud

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Not sure what's going on here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oca5xnPeCRU

It's sometimes frustrating that for every interesting socially-conscious but still awesome and on point song Killer Mike releases he also releases like thirty really generic songs with random dudes. :v: Still, his last album was one of my favorite rap records of 2011.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽

Rabid Koala posted:

This mixtape is ridiculously good. Dude mixes two of my favorite things - stellar beats and Satan - and is pissed as hell. Anything else out there like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89F5fpvwPr0

quote:

Death Grips
we're releasing two full length albums this year world-wide .. first one drops in April
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpxZdL2hQVc

So yeah, just need to wait a couple months.

Harminoff fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Feb 13, 2012

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!
I finally got around to listening to Metro Zu's Mink Rug this weekend.

I can dig it. The output from all these young doods is nuts.

She Joggin'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNx8_4kKFrw

This is my favorite. Now I never listened to MDTBF so this might just be the Runaway beat but I really feel this poo poo.

Wave Cap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiAjZ4ZC5OE&feature=related

Wet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4FexR2WUOM

Dana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUyFu6UWIkw

Gonna go check out their back catalog now.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Boywhiz88 posted:

I finally got around to listening to Metro Zu's Mink Rug this weekend.

I can dig it. The output from all these young doods is nuts.

She Joggin'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNx8_4kKFrw

This is my favorite. Now I never listened to MDTBF so this might just be the Runaway beat but I really feel this poo poo.

Wave Cap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiAjZ4ZC5OE&feature=related

Wet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4FexR2WUOM

Dana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUyFu6UWIkw

Gonna go check out their back catalog now.

Yeah they're ok. The production is really strong imo but the rhymes are meh most of the time. I swear if some of these younger dudes could actually rap you'd have classic albums left and right because some of the production coming out is just berserk.

Omerta
Feb 19, 2007

I thought short arms were good for benching :smith:

alansmithee posted:

Yeah they're ok. The production is really strong imo but the rhymes are meh most of the time. I swear if some of these younger dudes could actually rap you'd have classic albums left and right because some of the production coming out is just berserk.

That's a really good summary.

Also, what are some of y'alls favorite mostly remix mixtapes? Stuff like No Ceilings, There is no Competition, Life at 30k etc. Like what J. Cole did on The Warmup, but good.

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic
isn't that alchemist holding the duck in the Action Bronson x Riff Raff video

snyprmag
Oct 9, 2005

I'm pretty sure it is. Action Bronson was in the Gangrene video so it would make sense.

TheFallenEvincar posted:

Not sure what's going on here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oca5xnPeCRU

It's sometimes frustrating that for every interesting socially-conscious but still awesome and on point song Killer Mike releases he also releases like thirty really generic songs with random dudes. :v: Still, his last album was one of my favorite rap records of 2011.

The first single from RAP music got released this morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwbayS7Bds4

Baron Patsy
Apr 9, 2006

I'M SPECIAL DAMMIT

snyprmag posted:

I'm pretty sure it is. Action Bronson was in the Gangrene video so it would make sense.

it is. and the interior shots (like the last one w bronson in the hallway) are in his studio

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic
i thought so - he's more jokey in this video, i watched "the champion" by inspectah deck but he looked a little more stonefaced in that one

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

When I was 15 and stupid and listening to Def Jux I really never thought I would see T.I. and Bun B on a track produced by El-P. Crazy world.

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic
I always knew El was destined for greatness just depends on who is measuring I guess.

But yeah Bun & TI wouldn't have made the list of potential collabs 5 yrs ago

Gr4vyB04t
Jan 31, 2010

Hey gurl, hey.
http://www.pitchfork.com/news/45422-check-out-a-track-from-portishead-member-geoff-barrows-hip-hop-project-quakers/

41 tracks. 35 MCs.

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence
Don't give a gently caress if its old, gangsta gibbs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S1oy3pEPc4

Ryen Deckard
Jun 28, 2008

My blood is red, white, and blue.

alansmithee posted:

I'd start with MC Chris, then move to MC Frontalot and Cap't Dan and the Skurvy Krew

I know this is satire, but I actually started with these people as ironic nerd value, then I moved up to actual hip-hop. So really, whatever helps get you into a genre should be praised.

Tactical Grace
May 1, 2008
I started out with Beasty Boys. What are they, 50% ironic?

e: Dunno what your definition of real is but Stones Throw are real imo and also full of intentional irony. Rap is being gradually reduced to irony (even if these "real" rappers don't acknowledge it) because its repeatedly covering the same ground.

Tactical Grace fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Feb 14, 2012

Maarak
May 23, 2007

"Go for it!"
If there's one thing that's never found in "real" hip hop, it's irony and forms of humor. It is a very serious culture. No goofballs allowed.

Jock Mocken
Apr 7, 2005

on point like a unicorn, strapped like tha unabomb
everyday a work day but dont wear a uniform
Gucci Mane a dapper don, capper like a Capricorn
We've discussed why nerdcore is irritating before (no real story to tell, no real apppreciation for the art of rapping, etc) but really the only reason you need is that them nerdcore motherfuckers just be insufferable.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Tactical Grace posted:

I started out with Beasty Boys. What are they, 50% ironic?

e: Dunno what your definition of real is but Stones Throw are real imo and also full of intentional irony. Rap is being gradually reduced to irony (even if these "real" rappers don't acknowledge it) because its repeatedly covering the same ground.

Glad you were kind enough to declare what real is before i had a chance to answer. Also what/who on stones throw you think is filled with all this intentional irony?

Also if covering the same ground reduces something to irony, there hasn't been a genuine rock song in roughly 30 years.

(BTW I think essentially everything you said is not only wrong, but retarded).

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Also more on some recent stuff I've been listening to a lot recently. The Schoolboy Q album is really nice. Some very interesting production throughout. Oxy Music is a baller song and prob my fav of the album. Honestly I thought the song with Kendrick is one of the weaker on there. And it made me reevaluate ASAP Rocky as a rapper, he's got a real nice verse on it.

Speaking of which, it was somewhat surprising to hear him on here, although it seems to be a much bigger trend now of all sorts of rappers working with each other. I guess since you can do everything remotely it's prob easier now but I think it can't help but produce better music to have a bunch of dudes all (hopefully) influencing each other.

And the new Alley Boy mixtape also bangs really hard. The slightly more political bent isn't something I really expected. Also imo outside of a couple isolated cases (Lif, Sage Francis occasionally), this is how "political" rap works the best-not beating you over the head with preaching and conspiracy theories.

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill
New article on Flatbush Zombies, who were talked about on here awhile back

http://www.vice.com/read/finally-the-hip-hop-kids-are-taking-acid

snyprmag
Oct 9, 2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rljZ8ZkpIMw
Kendrick put this out today and its probably the best thing I've ever heard from him. It goes from sounding like Anticon to more modern spacey heavy beats on the verses. Never listened to Gunplay before but he comes correct on this.

Bulging Nipples
Jan 16, 2006

snyprmag posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rljZ8ZkpIMw
Kendrick put this out today and its probably the best thing I've ever heard from him. It goes from sounding like Anticon to more modern spacey heavy beats on the verses. Never listened to Gunplay before but he comes correct on this.

Is that Rittz on the second verse or did KL just jack his flow? It sounds exactly like him


song is sick tho

Bulging Nipples fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Feb 14, 2012

het
Nov 14, 2002

A dark black past
is my most valued
possession

Tactical Grace posted:

I started out with Beasty Boys. What are they, 50% ironic?

e: Dunno what your definition of real is but Stones Throw are real imo and also full of intentional irony. Rap is being gradually reduced to irony (even if these "real" rappers don't acknowledge it) because its repeatedly covering the same ground.
I'm not really sure what you mean by any of this. Could you rewrite it without using the word "irony" or "ironic"?

Tactical Grace
May 1, 2008
I don't know what irony is, also my point is retarded - oh man. I suppose I meant MF Doom and Madlib are sarcastic?

Ryen Deckard
Jun 28, 2008

My blood is red, white, and blue.

Jock Mocken posted:

We've discussed why nerdcore is irritating before (no real story to tell, no real apppreciation for the art of rapping, etc) but really the only reason you need is that them nerdcore motherfuckers just be insufferable.

This is what I meant.

Maarak posted:

If there's one thing that's never found in "real" hip hop, it's irony and forms of humor. It is a very serious culture. No goofballs allowed.

Not this.

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juicy_J
Jun 25, 2004
I.O.U. one gmail invite

alansmithee posted:

Also more on some recent stuff I've been listening to a lot recently. The Schoolboy Q album is really nice. Some very interesting production throughout. Oxy Music is a baller song and prob my fav of the album. Honestly I thought the song with Kendrick is one of the weaker on there. And it made me reevaluate ASAP Rocky as a rapper, he's got a real nice verse on it.

Speaking of which, it was somewhat surprising to hear him on here, although it seems to be a much bigger trend now of all sorts of rappers working with each other. I guess since you can do everything remotely it's prob easier now but I think it can't help but produce better music to have a bunch of dudes all (hopefully) influencing each other.

And the new Alley Boy mixtape also bangs really hard. The slightly more political bent isn't something I really expected. Also imo outside of a couple isolated cases (Lif, Sage Francis occasionally), this is how "political" rap works the best-not beating you over the head with preaching and conspiracy theories.

I was surprised as hell to hear Alley Boy rap about some type conscience poo poo on that first track, followed immediately by a gutter joint

Also cosign that Schoolboy joint, he was on a couple tracks on the ASAP mixtape and is def my favorite out of TDE artists

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